What Has Islam Given To Civilization?

Well, paper was invented in Egypt as papyrus, though, the Egyptians were polytheists, not Muslims.

Paper has nothing to do with papyrus.

Untrue. The very word papyrus is derived from the word paper. So, too, is paper derived from papyrus.

First, we are talking about the actual source of paper. Not the source of paper's name.

Second, you really need to reread what you write prior to posting it.
 
Paper has nothing to do with papyrus.

Untrue. The very word papyrus is derived from the word paper. So, too, is paper derived from papyrus.

First, we are talking about the actual source of paper. Not the source of paper's name.

Second, you really need to reread what you write prior to posting it.

You're wrong. I'm right. Paper is derived from papyrus and was used as paper, after clay tablets. Just graciously concede defeat and move on so I can shred you in another thread.
 
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Author Oriana Falacci once observed, perceptively so, that Islam is the only religion that has given the world only religion. Meaning, the Muslim world for most of its 1400 year existence has contributed little or nothing of great significance, except its ideology. An ideology that embraces jihad [holy war] and subjugation of women, gays and non-believers.

While the Muhammadan makes claims to inventions originating out of the Middle Ages, what, really, have the nearly 60 Islamic countries invented over the last, say, 1000 years?
Anything?

What product with global demand do Islamic countries manufacture. Any?

Islamic countries are last in education, literacy, healthcare, productivity and industrial development. Why so?

Out of 1.5 BILLION Muslims around the world, only 2 Muslims have received Nobel Prizes for achievements in science, mathematics, economics and literature.

In stark contrast, of only 13 million Jews, an impressive 160 Jews have earned Nobel Prizes for groundbreaking accomplishments.

Does Allah not want his Muhammadan to be educated, successful, prosperous and respected?

Islam, kept and retained for the Europeans much of the old knowledge that was lost in the dark ages.

The same Europeans that the Muzzies conquered and massacred, like in Spain, which they proceeded to rename al-Andalus?

The Spaniards appreciated their Muslim overlords so much, they spent 800 years getting rid of them.

And when they did get rid of them (the Moors?) they found the old documents which much of our current western law and such is based upon.
 
Islam, kept and retained for the Europeans much of the old knowledge that was lost in the dark ages.

The same Europeans that the Muzzies conquered and massacred, like in Spain, which they proceeded to rename al-Andalus?

The Spaniards appreciated their Muslim overlords so much, they spent 800 years getting rid of them.

And when they did get rid of them (the Moors?) they found the old documents which much of our current western law and such is based upon.

Er, Western law is based on Mosaic law, such as the 10 Commandments, created thousands of years before anything the Muzzies created.
 
Islam, kept and retained for the Europeans much of the old knowledge that was lost in the dark ages.

How far they've regressed since then....Barbarians.


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The same Europeans that the Muzzies conquered and massacred, like in Spain, which they proceeded to rename al-Andalus?

The Spaniards appreciated their Muslim overlords so much, they spent 800 years getting rid of them.

And when they did get rid of them (the Moors?) they found the old documents which much of our current western law and such is based upon.

Er, Western law is based on Mosaic law, such as the 10 Commandments, created thousands of years before anything the Muzzies created.

Idiot you have not been reading my posts.
I did not say the Muslims created it but preserved it.
Western law does include 2 of the 10 commandments. Murder and theft.
But go ahead you clearly are not capable of understanding anyway.
 
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Islam, kept and retained for the Europeans much of the old knowledge that was lost in the dark ages.

How far they've regressed since then....Barbarians.


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It is the way of religious fundamentalists of all religions.
Remember Capercunicus had to recant his observations of the solar system or be killed by the Christians.
Religious fundies always oppose change and new knowledge, kind of the ultimate conservatives.
 
The rediscovery of the Justinian Code in the early 10th century rekindled a passion for the discipline of law, which crossed many of the re-forming boundaries between East and West. Eventually, it was only in the Catholic or Frankish west, that Roman law became the foundation on which all legal concepts and systems were based. Its influence can be traced to this day in all Western legal systems (although in different manners and to different extents in the common (Anglo-American) and the civil (continental European) legal traditions).

The study of canon law, the legal system of the Catholic Church, fused with that of Roman law to form the basis of the refounding of Western legal scholarship. The ideas of civil rights, equality before the law, equality of women, procedural justice, and democracy as the ideal form of society, and were principles which formed the basis of modern Western culture.

Western law

In the United States, we have a very important document called the Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights is a list of rights that everyone enjoys. These laws were written down a long time ago, when our country was first formed, so that everyone would know their rights. This document was saved and protected, so that all citizens today and in the future would enjoy the same rights.

Over the years, new rights have been added to the list. These new rights are called Amendments. One of the added amendments freed the slaves. Another gave American women the right to vote. These are important rights. They also have been written down, saved, and protected.

The same was true with Justinian's Code. Emperor Justinian wanted to save in writing all the laws that began in ancient Rome. Those laws were called the Twelve Tables. He collected up all the old laws, and added new ones that gave his people even more rights.

One of the laws in Justinian's Code stated that a person was innocent until proven guilty. Can you think of any country today that has this same law? Well, sure - we do! Many countries do, including the United States, Great Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, and others.

It is not easy to write laws that are fair for everyone. Our founding fathers did a great job with the Bill of Rights, but then they some great teachers, one of which was Justinian! Justinian wrote laws that were fair for everyone because he thought about the needs of all the people. He did such a good job way back in 500 CE that new and existing governments still refer to his laws as guides when creating laws for their own countries today!

The Middle Ages for Kids - Justinian's Code, written down laws

From the middle ages for kids so that even certain posters here can understand ;)
 
They have given us great Americans who serve our country in countless ways just like members of every other religious group here.
 
They have given us great Americans who serve our country in countless ways just like members of every other religious group here.

Islam has an insignificant historical connection with America. Indeed, Islam has an anti-American history.

Islam is a fascist ideology that is antithetical to everything America stands for.

Muzzie Turks fought on the side of the Germans in World War I and Muzzie Arabs collaborated with the Nazis in WW II.

Muzzies sided with the Soviets during the Cold War.

Here, the IslamoNazi Muzzie Grand Mufti is seen collaborating with the German Nazi Hitler...
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Islam has given the world the largest known cult.

True, but to be fair to David Koresh and Charles Manson, who knows what might have come of their deadly cults had they been given the chance to continue.

I guess we'll never know.

If David Koresh and Manson were born in Saudi Arabia instead of the US, they would have thousands of followers and be hailed as warriors of God.
 
The rediscovery of the Justinian Code in the early 10th century rekindled a passion for the discipline of law, which crossed many of the re-forming boundaries between East and West.

Constitutional Rights Foundation: The Hebrews And The Foundations Of Western Law...
The Ten Commandments and many other elements of Hebrew law provided a major source for the development of western legal systems and democracy.

The Jewish law that developed influenced Roman law, English law, and our own Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
BRIA 16 4 a The Hebrews and the Foundation of Western Law
 
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Did the Muslims invent the shawarma? its bloody good.:eusa_pray:
 
I don't know, I think providing paper to the west was pretty significant. Without that there could have been no printing press and no enlightement.

Algebra has been mentioned.

Preserving alot of the classic period texts

The Public Hopsital

The Public library

Degree providing Universities

Where exactly do you think Europeans were learning many of the things they were learning from?

And as Islam has endured, the art, culture and science of the Middle East have diminished.

Funny that.
 
Islam has given the world the largest known cult.

True, but to be fair to David Koresh and Charles Manson, who knows what might have come of their deadly cults had they been given the chance to continue.

I guess we'll never know.

If David Koresh and Manson were born in Saudi Arabia instead of the US, they would have thousands of followers and be hailed as warriors of God.

Interesting point. While Mahomet was an abject failure as a religoius leader in Mecca, having converted only about 150 Meccans over the course of 12 years, when he was kicked out of Mecca for being a charlatan, forcing him to migrate to Medina, Mahomet changed from a religious leader to a cult leader becoming much more successful in the process.

As any good cult leader, Mahomet needed to engender the loyalty of the Arab bedouins and to do so he promised them exactly what he knew they wanted and needed if they belonged to his cult of Islam: Food, water, "booty" and women, much of which was obtained from the caravan hijackings Mahomet sent his Muslim cult thugs on. Mahomet sanctioned the rape of female captives from the caravans hijacked.

Conveniently, Mahomet received a "revelation" from his allah telling him to take 20% of the booty, as recorded in the Quran. Allah and Mahomet formed a crime syndicate.

Mahomet, cleverly, convinced his cult followers that if they fought and died for him, they would have even more food and women in paradise. Thus, the invention of the 72 virgins who provide 1000 year orgasms and who re-grow their hymens to remain virgins.

Mahomet was a master manipulator, like Koresh and Charlie Manson.

Also, like every effective cult leader, Mahomet knew he needed to assure that the followers of his cult broke all ties with their familes which he knew would try to take them away from the Islamic cult. Thus, Mahomet received another convenient "revelation" from his allah instructing his followers that they must not have any relations with family members.

Ultimately, Mahomet was vastly more successful as a cult leader than a religious leader, rising from a petty preacher in Mecca to the King of Arabia before he died.
 
I don't know, I think providing paper to the west was pretty significant. Without that there could have been no printing press and no enlightement.

Algebra has been mentioned.

Preserving alot of the classic period texts

The Public Hopsital

The Public library

Degree providing Universities

Where exactly do you think Europeans were learning many of the things they were learning from?

And as Islam has endured, the art, culture and science of the Middle East have diminished.

Funny that.

Islamic radicals frown on art, culture and science. Which is why the Taliban forbid any art of drawings when they ran Afghanistan and Iraqi insurgents executed Iraqi artists and scientists in the streets.
 

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