Was the 2020 election stolen? What do the stats say?

[AzogtheDefiler]

Voting and Registration

In election years, the Current Population Survey collects data on reported voting and registration, and later reports stats by turnout, age, race and origin.

www.census.gov

		2000​	2004​	2008​	2012​	2016​	2020​
Total Eligible		202.6​	215.7​	225.5​	235.2​	245.5​	252.3​
Total Registered		129.5​	125.7​	146.3​	153.2​	157.6​	168.3​
% of Registered		64%​	58%​	65%​	65%​	64%​	67%​
Total Voted		110.8​	89.9​	131.1​	132.9​	137.5​	154.6​
% of Voted		55%​	42%​	58%​	57%​	56%​	61%​
Increase of voted		NA	-19%​	46%​	1%​	3%​	12%​

Are there shenanigans? IDK but here are the stats. We see a big dip in % who voted in 2004 post 2000 and a big spike in 2004 with BHO garnering strong support as the economy was in serious trouble. 46% cycle over cycle increase in pretty impressive. Note that for some reason in 2004 the % of registered voters was low too. Since then the % of registered voters has hovered in the mid 60s. Interestingly % of increase of those eligible to vote spiked by 12% in 2020 when compared to 2016 when it was just 1% and 3% in the prior years, respectively.

Does it prove there was fraud? IDK. It is interesting to see the spike however. My guess it was due to more mail in ballots and those are always prone to shenanigans.

What are your thoughts?

Faun This is how your review stats and even this is pretty sophomoric. But I just did a quick and dirty.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

You had a massive group of people who would do anything to get rid of trump.

They voted.

And trump supporters turned out in droves to try to save trump.

So there was a high turnout.

Same thing happened in New Orleans mayor race a few years ago. Super high turnout. Why? David Duke, the KKK guy ran for mayor as did a convicted felon.

Huge press coverage, some of it international.

Same thing happened trump versus Joe. There was a lot of publicity. Voters felt like they were taking part in something historic.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You had a massive group of people who would do anything to get rid of trump.

They voted.

And trump supporters turned out in droves to try to save trump.

So there was a high turnout.

Same thing happened in New Orleans mayor race a few years ago. Super high turnout. Why? David Duke, the KKK guy ran for mayor as did a convicted felon.

Huge press coverage, some of it international.

Same thing happened trump versus Joe. There was a lot of publicity. Voters felt like they were taking part in something historic.

Thats all I get Otis Mayfield how about a thank you for providing impartial stats?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Voting and Registration

In election years, the Current Population Survey collects data on reported voting and registration, and later reports stats by turnout, age, race and origin.

www.census.gov

		2000​	2004​	2008​	2012​	2016​	2020​
Total Eligible		202.6​	215.7​	225.5​	235.2​	245.5​	252.3​
Total Registered		129.5​	125.7​	146.3​	153.2​	157.6​	168.3​
% of Registered		64%​	58%​	65%​	65%​	64%​	67%​
Total Voted		110.8​	89.9​	131.1​	132.9​	137.5​	154.6​
% of Voted		55%​	42%​	58%​	57%​	56%​	61%​
Increase of voted		NA	-23%​	46%​	1%​	3%​	11%​

Are there shenanigans? IDK but here are the stats. We see a big dip in % who voted in 2004 post 2000 and a big spike in 2004 with BHO garnering strong support as the economy was in serious trouble. 46% cycle over cycle increase in pretty impressive. Note that for some reason in 2004 the % of registered voters was low too. Since then the % of registered voters has hovered in the mid 60s. Interestingly % of increase of those eligible to vote spiked by 11% in 2020 when compared to 2016 when it was just 1% and 3% in the prior years, respectively.

Does it prove there was fraud? IDK. It is interesting to see the spike however. My guess it was due to more mail in ballots and those are always prone to shenanigans.

What are your thoughts?

Faun This is how your review stats and even this is pretty sophomoric. But I just did a quick and dirty.

Not sure how this even would suggest fraud at all. This same basic idea has had at least 4 other threads now, none of them really explain how this points to fraud.

 

[Calypso Jones]

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not sure how this even would suggest fraud at all. This same basic idea has had at least 4 other threads now, none of them really explain how this points to fraud.

Another ingrate. How about thanking me for posting actual impartial threats.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Thats all I get Otis Mayfield how about a thank you for providing impartial stats?

You know it's true.

The energy for the 2012 election was a 4

The energy for the 2020 election was a 11.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Another ingrate. How about thanking me for posting actual impartial threats.

You want thanks for posting some basic stats? I mean I get that they probably tasked your skills to the limit, but are thanks really necessary?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You know it's true.

The energy for the 2012 election was a 4

The energy for the 2020 election was a 11.

Still not a thank you?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You want thanks for posting some basic stats? I mean I get that they probably tasked your skills to the limit, but are thanks really necessary?

Yep. Thank you, Bitch.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Another ingrate. How about thanking me for posting actual impartial threats.

Oh, and your numbers are wrong. Percent of Charge is X2-X1/X1.

You divided by X2, which is incorrect.

The change would be

-18.9%
45.8%
1.5%
3.5%
12.4%

 

[Moonglow]

Yep. Thank you, Bitch.

Do you need a tampon?

Turnout in 2020 election spiked among both Democratic and Republican voting groups, new census data shows | Brookings

Turnout in the 2020 election was exceptionally high, resulting in a victory for Joe Biden. In response, some Republican-controlled state legislatures have enacted measures that would restrict voting in future elections among groups that often vote Democratic.

www.brookings.edu

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Oh, and your numbers are wrong. Percent of Charge is X2-X1/X1.

You divided by X2, which is incorrect.

The change would be

-18.9%
45.8%
1.5%
3.5%
12.4%

Is my formula wrong?

Where? I have 46$% and 1% and

Oh, and your numbers are wrong. Percent of Charge is X2-X1/X1.

You divided by X2, which is incorrect.

The change would be

-18.9%
45.8%
1.5%
3.5%
12.4%

Damn Excel error. Good catch

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Do you need a tampon?

Turnout in 2020 election spiked among both Democratic and Republican voting groups, new census data shows | Brookings

Turnout in the 2020 election was exceptionally high, resulting in a victory for Joe Biden. In response, some Republican-controlled state legislatures have enacted measures that would restrict voting in future elections among groups that often vote Democratic.

www.brookings.edu

Just say thank you. I know you're a man who identifies as a woman but no need for a tampon.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I would also point out that both Biden and Trump gained votes as compared to 2016, Biden vs Hillary and Trump vs Trump.

Biden gained more votes than Trump is 43 out of 50 states, and 6 of those 7 states were Blue states in 2016.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Just say thank you. I know you're a man who identifies as a woman but no need for a tampon.

Fact check: These 5 election statistics do not discredit Joe Biden's victory

Social media users have shared a meme with statistics about Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden that they claim discredit election results.

www.usatoday.com

You can find a lot of fact checks denying your OP.

There are legit statisticians who go over every election looking for errors. The say they are very accurate. They found no major problems. Certainly no problems that would overturn the election.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Fact check: These 5 election statistics do not discredit Joe Biden's victory

Social media users have shared a meme with statistics about Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden that they claim discredit election results.

www.usatoday.com

You can find a lot of fact checks denying your OP.

There are legit statisticians who go over every election looking for errors. The say they are very accurate. They found no major problems. Certainly no problems that would overturn the election.

Denying my OP? What is there to deny? I just posted stats?

 

[mamooth]

If the conspiracy theory is that millions of fake votes were cast, the logical conclusion stemming from it is those fraudulent votes were given to Trump.

First, look at the long and sordid history of cheating and vote fraud by Republicans.

Second, look at what a catastrophe the Trump admin was for the USA, and consider what a human skidmark Trump himself was. There's no way 74 million people said "Yeah, I want some more of that!". Therefore, there must have been millions of faked Trump votes added to the tallies. The Republicans cheated as hard as they could, but it wasn't enough.

No, I'm not actually serious. I'm highlighting the main problem with the "Turnout was high, so it proves Democratic vote fraud" conspiracy theory.

And Azog? If you're going to push a conspiracy theory, you should stand behind it proudly. Don't do a "I'm just innocently presenting data" weasel act. That fools nobody.

 

[Donald H]

You had a massive group of people who would do anything to get rid of trump.

They voted.

And trump supporters turned out in droves to try to save trump.

So there was a high turnout.

Same thing happened in New Orleans mayor race a few years ago. Super high turnout. Why? David Duke, the KKK guy ran for mayor as did a convicted felon.

Huge press coverage, some of it international.

Same thing happened trump versus Joe. There was a lot of publicity. Voters felt like they were taking part in something historic.

I would only add to that the fact that mail-in voting allowed some people to vote instead of standing in a line for hours and then giving up. The reasoning behind the effort to prevent people from voting. What people? The ones who are forced to stand in long lines.

In Canada I've never even experienced a line up at the polls but I hear some may wait 15 minutes.

Does this somehow reflect freedoms?

 

[BWK]

Voting and Registration

In election years, the Current Population Survey collects data on reported voting and registration, and later reports stats by turnout, age, race and origin.

www.census.gov

		2000​	2004​	2008​	2012​	2016​	2020​
Total Eligible		202.6​	215.7​	225.5​	235.2​	245.5​	252.3​
Total Registered		129.5​	125.7​	146.3​	153.2​	157.6​	168.3​
% of Registered		64%​	58%​	65%​	65%​	64%​	67%​
Total Voted		110.8​	89.9​	131.1​	132.9​	137.5​	154.6​
% of Voted		55%​	42%​	58%​	57%​	56%​	61%​
Increase of voted		NA	-19%​	46%​	1%​	3%​	12%​

Are there shenanigans? IDK but here are the stats. We see a big dip in % who voted in 2004 post 2000 and a big spike in 2004 with BHO garnering strong support as the economy was in serious trouble. 46% cycle over cycle increase in pretty impressive. Note that for some reason in 2004 the % of registered voters was low too. Since then the % of registered voters has hovered in the mid 60s. Interestingly % of increase of those eligible to vote spiked by 12% in 2020 when compared to 2016 when it was just 1% and 3% in the prior years, respectively.

Does it prove there was fraud? IDK. It is interesting to see the spike however. My guess it was due to more mail in ballots and those are always prone to shenanigans.

What are your thoughts?

Faun This is how your review stats and even this is pretty sophomoric. But I just did a quick and dirty.

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