US aircraft carriers in worst shape in decades

[Vastator]

Aircraft carriers as we know them are antiquated. And with the rising prevalence of hypersonic missile technology; are an unnecessary risk. Both to our men, and our military in general. Development of UAV carriers would be more reasonable.

 

[Anathema]

Considering the distance between the US and every other nation in carrier strength, I don't think this is a huge issue.

Japan and France each have 4 carriers. Italy, Australia, India and Egypt each have 2 carriers. Russia, China, UK, Spain, South Korea and Brazil each have 1 carrier.

That is a total of 22 carriers, worldwide, that are not under the US flag. The US has 20 carriers.

Okay, so our combined enemies have 22 carriers. How many fewer than them would you like us to have?

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, there are. We need wartime tax rates for any alleged, wartime economy.

Only in your intellectually arrested mind do "tax cut economics" exist.

Or, the Judiciary should not use allegations, when criticizing the People in open Court.

An entirely irrelevant diversion....But were I as wrong as you, as often as you are, I'd want to change the subject too.

The right wing has no real agenda other than cutting taxes. Tax cut economics.

Not at all; There is no "war on crime, drugs, or terror" if the right wing refuses to pay wartime tax rates for them. Nothing but right wing propaganda concerning, Discretionary not Entitlement Spending.

Wars on crime, drugs, and terror require wartime tax rates, not tax cut economics.

Exactly what is “wartime tax rates”?

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

 

[danielpalos]

Considering the distance between the US and every other nation in carrier strength, I don't think this is a huge issue.

Japan and France each have 4 carriers. Italy, Australia, India and Egypt each have 2 carriers. Russia, China, UK, Spain, South Korea and Brazil each have 1 carrier.

That is a total of 22 carriers, worldwide, that are not under the US flag. The US has 20 carriers.

Okay, so our combined enemies have 22 carriers. How many fewer than them would you like us to have?

Why do we have so many enemies? Tax cut economics means we should have to cut spending.

 

[WinterBorn]

Considering the distance between the US and every other nation in carrier strength, I don't think this is a huge issue.

Japan and France each have 4 carriers. Italy, Australia, India and Egypt each have 2 carriers. Russia, China, UK, Spain, South Korea and Brazil each have 1 carrier.

That is a total of 22 carriers, worldwide, that are not under the US flag. The US has 20 carriers.

Okay, so our combined enemies have 22 carriers. How many fewer than them would you like us to have?

Combined enemies? Since when are Italy, Australia, South Korea, the UK and Spain our enemy? They account for 7 of the carriers world wide. So our allies and the US have 27 carriers and potential enemies have 15.

 

[Anathema]

Combined enemies? Since when are Italy, Australia, South Korea, the UK and Spain our enemy? They account for 7 of the carriers world wide. So our allies and the US have 27 carriers and potential enemies have 15.

A true and proper US Government has no allies. Never has and never will.

 

[WinterBorn]

Combined enemies? Since when are Italy, Australia, South Korea, the UK and Spain our enemy? They account for 7 of the carriers world wide. So our allies and the US have 27 carriers and potential enemies have 15.

A true and proper US Government has no allies. Never has and never will.

Once again, I am thankful you are not in charge and your opinions are an extreme minority. Without allies our nation would not exist. And perhaps you want to fund a military that stands against the entire world. Most of us do not.

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes, there are. We need wartime tax rates for any alleged, wartime economy.

Only in your intellectually arrested mind do "tax cut economics" exist.

Or, the Judiciary should not use allegations, when criticizing the People in open Court.

An entirely irrelevant diversion....But were I as wrong as you, as often as you are, I'd want to change the subject too.

The right wing has no real agenda other than cutting taxes. Tax cut economics.

Not at all; There is no "war on crime, drugs, or terror" if the right wing refuses to pay wartime tax rates for them. Nothing but right wing propaganda concerning, Discretionary not Entitlement Spending.

Wars on crime, drugs, and terror require wartime tax rates, not tax cut economics.

Exactly what is “wartime tax rates”?

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

So capitalism is strictly a peacetime economic model? Horseshit.

 

[Anathema]

Without allies our nation would not exist. And perhaps you want to fund a military that stands against the entire world. Most of us do not.

Not really. An Isolationist society merely needs a military sufficient to keep others from bothering it. We already fund a military that stands against the world. I just want that money being spent to defend the USA, not South Korea, Germany, Japan, etc...

 

[WinterBorn]

Without allies our nation would not exist. And perhaps you want to fund a military that stands against the entire world. Most of us do not.

Not really. An Isolationist society merely needs a military sufficient to keep others from bothering it. We already fund a military that stands against the world. I just want that money being spent to defend the USA, not South Korea, Germany, Japan, etc...

An isolationist society might have worked 100 years ago. But not in today’s world.

 

[there4eyeM]

The more a nation prepares for war, the more it sees war as a/the solution. The U.S. could never have been led into the disastrous (and illegal) Iraq invasion if the administration at the time had not had the swagger of a huge military far beyond merely defensive needs. The resources were there, however, so the egoistic, short-sighted operation was engaged in by a deceptive cabal in the White House.

 

[danielpalos]

Combined enemies? Since when are Italy, Australia, South Korea, the UK and Spain our enemy? They account for 7 of the carriers world wide. So our allies and the US have 27 carriers and potential enemies have 15.

A true and proper US Government has no allies. Never has and never will.

Care to explain your right wing fantasy?

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, there are. We need wartime tax rates for any alleged, wartime economy.

Only in your intellectually arrested mind do "tax cut economics" exist.

Or, the Judiciary should not use allegations, when criticizing the People in open Court.

An entirely irrelevant diversion....But were I as wrong as you, as often as you are, I'd want to change the subject too.

The right wing has no real agenda other than cutting taxes. Tax cut economics.

Not at all; There is no "war on crime, drugs, or terror" if the right wing refuses to pay wartime tax rates for them. Nothing but right wing propaganda concerning, Discretionary not Entitlement Spending.

Wars on crime, drugs, and terror require wartime tax rates, not tax cut economics.

Exactly what is “wartime tax rates”?

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

So capitalism is strictly a peacetime economic model? Horseshit.

actually, yes, it is.

WWII brought us out of the Great Recession and it was through command economics, not capitalism.

Capitalism can, simply not be trusted, when it is really really important.

 

[Oddball]

actually, yes, it is.

WWII brought us out of the Great Recession and it was through command economics, not capitalism.

Capitalism can, simply not be trusted, when it is really really important.

Horse shit...Not only was WWII a time of shortages, privation, rationing, and moribund economic growth, its end caused one of the steepest recessions in modern 'Murican history.

Best you cease making comments concerning economics....You're an utter dilettante.

 

[longknife]

All of this nattering is annoying.

 

[danielpalos]

actually, yes, it is.

WWII brought us out of the Great Recession and it was through command economics, not capitalism.

Capitalism can, simply not be trusted, when it is really really important.

Horse shit...Not only was WWII a time of shortages, privation, rationing, and moribund economic growth, its end caused one of the steepest recessions in modern 'Murican history.

Best you cease making comments concerning economics....You're an utter dilettante.

WWII brought us out of the Great Recession and it was through command economics, not capitalism.

 

[WinterBorn]

Only in your intellectually arrested mind do "tax cut economics" exist.

An entirely irrelevant diversion....But were I as wrong as you, as often as you are, I'd want to change the subject too.

The right wing has no real agenda other than cutting taxes. Tax cut economics.

Not at all; There is no "war on crime, drugs, or terror" if the right wing refuses to pay wartime tax rates for them. Nothing but right wing propaganda concerning, Discretionary not Entitlement Spending.

Wars on crime, drugs, and terror require wartime tax rates, not tax cut economics.

Exactly what is “wartime tax rates”?

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

So capitalism is strictly a peacetime economic model? Horseshit.

actually, yes, it is.

WWII brought us out of the Great Recession and it was through command economics, not capitalism.

Capitalism can, simply not be trusted, when it is really really important.

WWII brought us out of the Great Depression with profits. Not with breaking even.

 

[OnePercenter]

Such vessels are outdated. Huge, expensive targets are a thing of the past. They are to the present world stage what battleships were in WWII.
Many and cheap is the strategy today. Few, big and costly is an albatross.

Much like longknife?

 

[danielpalos]

The right wing has no real agenda other than cutting taxes. Tax cut economics.

Not at all; There is no "war on crime, drugs, or terror" if the right wing refuses to pay wartime tax rates for them. Nothing but right wing propaganda concerning, Discretionary not Entitlement Spending.

Wars on crime, drugs, and terror require wartime tax rates, not tax cut economics.

Exactly what is “wartime tax rates”?

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

So capitalism is strictly a peacetime economic model? Horseshit.

actually, yes, it is.

WWII brought us out of the Great Recession and it was through command economics, not capitalism.

Capitalism can, simply not be trusted, when it is really really important.

WWII brought us out of the Great Depression with profits. Not with breaking even.

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Such vessels are outdated. Huge, expensive targets are a thing of the past. They are to the present world stage what battleships were in WWII.
Many and cheap is the strategy today. Few, big and costly is an albatross.

Yeah, well tell that bullshit to the Taliban, ISIS and our other enemies around the world.