Ravi
Diamond Member
Here's a clue: try following the conversation.how did you get into prison if you aren't a criminal?? huh? genius?
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Here's a clue: try following the conversation.how did you get into prison if you aren't a criminal?? huh? genius?
I'd like to see a few more things added to the list of what those on public assistance have to do like be on mandatory birth control as long as they're on the dole.
It's all about being responsible with tax money, ravikins.. I don't expect your illegal immigrant loving ass to comprehend that. You don't want to deal with welfare fascism? Then get the fuck off of welfare. No one forces anyone to take free money.
Unless I am mistaken about your message, I completely disagree with it. If you expect a handout from me (directly from my hand or indirectly through the government) then you bet that I expect some measure of responsibility on your part. I have no qualms with requiring welfare recipients to get drug tested. In fact, I would support contraceptive implant measures. If you cant take care of yourself without government welfare handouts, then you have no business making a baby to take care of. Every applicant for government assistance should receive a contraceptive implant. I read that they are good for up to 5 years.
If I dont want to obey my boss and do as he says, I can quit and not expect compensation. If a welfare recipient does not want to be drug tested or take contraceptive implants, then such a person will have to do without the government welfare handouts. It is as simple as that.
There are two issues here.
One. YOu don't have the right to "require" sterilization or any other medical procedure from anyone in this country. It is a violation of human rights. I don't care who the person is you're saying should be getting it, or what the inducement to encourage them to do it is. So that's the human rights aspect of it.
Two. Welfare checks are NOT to keep adults off the streets. THEY ARE TO KEEP CHILDREN OFF THE STREETS. Men and women who do not work who don't have children in the home CANNOT GET WELFARE CHECKS. Is any of this sinking in? This money is meant, and is used, SOLELY to provide shelter to children. What you are saying is if mom is a drug addict and can't get clean, she and her children receive no money, and belong on the street. Not HER, her CHILDREN.
This is where the whole abortion thing has gotten us. People snigger and giggle when you say abortion is the gateway drug to genocide and forced population control. Take a look at the thread, folks, and tell me it's not. Because next you'll be talking about forced abortions for drug addicts, forced sterilization for the mentally ill, and incarceration for people who don't have the emotional or intellectual fortitude to maintain a job.
If you don't have enough money for rent, what the hell difference does it make, anyway? The rent still isn't going to get paid, whether you get the 8 ball or not.
Sorry, $500 a month isn't going to keep one person in jail for a week, let alone a day, AND feed those kids.
Nice try, though.
Er...you idiot, if you release non-violent drug offenders, that means you'd be releasing the welfare recipients you put there for failing drug tests.
And are you going to put the 5 and 3 year old kids into military school because their folks failed drug tests?
The Democrats will never require people to pass a urine test before they get a
public assistance check. It just won't happen.
you are not counting the reduced the cost of non-violent drug offenders AND the value of giving these people work experience while in jail. Drag your feet if you need to. Clearly, your paycheck requires this broken cycle.
You're ignoring the facts, dear. Continue to sputter and spew, but the facts are...are you ready to see babies begging on the streets? Running in little-kid gangs like they did in the 1800s? In workhouses? Because that's where you'd be with this. It's a step back.
And please, a tiny fraction of your income goes to footing the rent. Do you realize that our cash grants are a tiny fraction of what the medical costs are for this group of people? The cash is just a tiny drop in the bucket of your tax dollar.
Baba, it's CLEARLY FUCKING WORKING TO KEEP KIDS OFF THE FUCKING STREETS ISNT IT? Begging? Lets get some more fucking mellowdrama in here, shall we? LIttle KID GANGS? ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS? do you NOT REMEMBER that south central L fucking A is a goddamn bastion of fucking gangland crime? Yea, baba... that fucking WELFARE SURE IS KEEPING KIDS OFF OF THE FUCKING STREET.
Tiny my ass. I don't really care how you rationalize it. I don't really care if it's pennies on the fucking thousand dollars. YOU are perpetuating a cycle that can't be cured by putting a bandaid over a gaping fucking wound. And, since it's people like me throwing cash into the pot for YOUR paycheck and THEIR handout, you'll have to go ahead and suck my dick if you don't like the fact of drug tests. Again, I can show you no less than half a dozen areas in which this IS happening. Dont like it? Get the fuck off of welfare.
Now, HERE is your "kids off the street gangs", baba...
Democrats are always the first to shit all over human rights. Always. Without exception.