Turkey cuts ties with France after lawmakers pass bill on Armenian genocide

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    Turkey cuts ties with France after lawmakers pass bill on Armenian genocide - The Washington Post
     
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    In 3 minutes explained by former US Ambassador to CNN what this is about:




    Wikileaks
    'Elysee contacts have reported to us the great lengths they will go to avoid disagreeing with him or provoking his displeasure - even recently reportedly re-routing the president's plane to avoid his seeing the Eiffel Tower lit up in Turkey's colours on the visit of PM (Recep Tayyip) Erdogan.'
    Read more: WIKILEAKS: Sarkozy's staff 'diverted plane so he didn't see Eiffel Tower lit up in Turkish colours' | Mail Online
    WIKILEAKS: Sarkozy's staff 'diverted plane so he didn't see Eiffel Tower lit up in Turkish colours' | Mail Online


    Off course, we'll cut relations. It was not Turks who destroyed relations.
     
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    It must first pass through French Senate before it comes effective.

    French Senate members said in July not to make Turkey an election issue
    senat.fr
    (From French)
    Last year French Senate already rejected a similar bill.
    Turkey Imposes Sanctions After French Parliamentary Approval of Genocide Bill « VOA Breaking News


    Now to yesterday's vote:
    Turkey recalls Paris envoy as lawmakers back genocide bill - FRANCE - FRANCE 24


    I don't think it will pass French Senate, and it is to come to Senate in February 2012. Until then, there will be no French-Turkish relations. And then Sarkozy is anyway gone, like current polls show.

    Sarkozy is an Hungarian French, probably his grandmother was sent to an Ottoman Harem. That's why his staff has to re-route his plane for him not to see the Eiffel-Tower lit-up in colors of Turkish flag.
    Wikileaks says exactly so:
    WIKILEAKS: Sarkozy's staff 'diverted plane so he didn't see Eiffel Tower lit up in Turkish colours' | Mail Online
     
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    Condi Rice Brags about Killing Genocide Resolution
    “there are many historical interpretations.”
    Condi Rice Brags about Killing Genocide Resolution | Armenian Weekly


    Obama
    As Senator:
    SENATOR OBAMA PLEDGES CONTINUED EFFORTS TO PRESS TURKEY TO ACKNOWLEDGE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

    As President:
    Obama administration has said it will seek to block a controversial bill describing as genocide the World War I killing of Armenians by Turks.
    BBC News - US administration to block vote on Turkey 'genocide'

    George W. Bush
    As Governor:
    Republican Candidate Calls on Americans to Remember and Acknowledge "Facts and Lessons" of the "Genocidal Campaign" against the Armenians
    GEORGE W. BUSH RECOGNIZES ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

    As President:
    US should not talk of Armenian 'genocide': Bush
    AFP: US should not talk of Armenian 'genocide': Bush
     
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    John F Kennedy Assasination
    Armenian terrorists trying to kill the Sultan and one of his bodyguards died as result
    Yıldız assassination attempt

    World-Trade Center
    Armenian terrosits terrorizing Ottoman Central Bank
    1896 Ottoman Bank Takeover - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Armenians have their lobbies, but Lobbies are not enough.
    If they want to dispute, that what happened to them was not Anti-Terror operations they can go to International-Court of Justice.
    Ottomans did Anti-Terror with Armenians just like the USA did with Iraqis.
    Simple as that.

    Condoleeza Rice:
    “there are many historical interpretations.”
    Condi Rice Brags about Killing Genocide Resolution | Armenian Weekly
     
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    BBC News: Were massacres of Armenians genocide?


    The world's foremost historian on Islam (Bernard Lewis) disputes the massacres can be termed genocide.
    Academic Condoleeza Rice says, that there are "many historical interpretation" of the Armenian thingy.
     
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    Why are the French so worked up over this issue?

    This alleged genocide took place almost 100 years ago.

    Time to move on to more current and pressing matters.

    Like the on going genocide of the Palestinian people by Israel that's happening right now. :cool:
     
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    Indeed, Sunni Man, it's time to move on. A bit like another infamous genocide (6 million?) that I can't quite put my finger on. Though why France is getting its knickers in twist over an event that has absolutely no bearing on it or its interests is beyond me.
     
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    With the votes of French-Armenians, Sarkozy can now loose the elections in April with 20% instead of 19%.


    Turkey now slams France of genocide - Arab News

    And in 2005 France passed this law:
    At war with France's past - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition

    Let's open Pandora's Box, there's enough atrocities in other Muslim countries which can keep our parliament busy for qutie a while.
    "Morale compass" only if you have white clothes.
     

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