TSA throws a mother in prison for trying to protect her daughter

[Momanohedhunter]

from an intrusive shake-down. Talk about going from Freedom to Fascism.

Mothers: Don't try to protect your daughters from invasive Transportation Security Administration searches—not if you want to stay out of jail, that is:

A 41-year-old Clarksville woman was arrested after Nashville airport authorities say she was belligerent and verbally abusive to security officers, refusing for her daughter to be patted down at a security checkpoint.

Andrea Fornella Abbott yelled and swore at Transportation Security Administration agents Saturday afternoon at Nashville International Airport, saying she did not want her daughter to be “touched inappropriately or have her “crotch grabbed,” a police report states.

After the woman refused to calm down, airport police said, she was charged with disorderly conduct and taken to jail. She has been released on bond.​

The more invasive and frequent the searches, the more frequently we'll see conflicts and incidents like this. The pat-downs practically encourage bad bad behavior on the part of TSA agents: Way back in 2004, the ACLU warned that hands-on airport searches offer an "invitation to sexual harassment."

Woman Jailed While Attempting to Shield Daughter From TSA Pat Down - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

And just think how fun it will be when they are unionized. Then they will be able to molest children at will and have the protection of Di8ck Trumpka as well as the federal government.

 

[Contumacious]

Only in your world is a captured Muslim Terrorist Kingpin equivalent to a 3 year old or Grand Ma. One of your precious moments RD?

Do terrorist kingpins wear signs or do we have to pick them out from the masses? Can grandma or a 3 year old hijack a plane? Probably not, but when we make it clear they receive a lower level security check, they become prime candidates as mules to carry weapons through a check point

I just find it odd that all civil liberties went out the window when it came to Bush and torture......anything to keep us safe

And now under Obama, a simple patdown brings screams from the libertarians

I just find it odd that all civil liberties went out the window when it came to Bush and torture......anything to keep us safe

Like you kept silent? You are still ragging. Yet the current Administration intensifies and compounds the problem and you support it. Is that your standard procedure??? Support the Party Line no matter who it hurts???

Still you seem to be unable your ability to discern a potential threat from an innocent, and seem to think that the only viable solution is to arbitrarily pick out victims at check points, treat them like shit, in front of a captive audience, and humiliate them, while ignoring the obvious risk.

You think that's bad?

Wait and see what happens when fedgov defaults again on its financial responsibilities.

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[Momanohedhunter]

With Bush, torture was OK to keep us safe

Now a simple pat down brings cries of Nazi atrocities

Only in your world is a captured Muslim Terrorist Kingpin equivalent to a 3 year old or Grand Ma. One of your precious moments RD?

Do terrorist kingpins wear signs or do we have to pick them out from the masses? Can grandma or a 3 year old hijack a plane? Probably not, but when we make it clear they receive a lower level security check, they become prime candidates as mules to carry weapons through a check point

I just find it odd that all civil liberties went out the window when it came to Bush and torture......anything to keep us safe

And now under Obama, a simple patdown brings screams from the libertarians

Thing is, TSA has ZERO success to speak of, but plenty of failure. An it is not a simple pat down. How about we make it so the cops can pat you down at will ?

 

[Steerpike]

I just find it odd that all civil liberties went out the window when it came to Bush and torture......anything to keep us safe

And now under Obama, a simple patdown brings screams from the libertarians

You know some weird Libertarians. Most of the ones I know were complaining during the Bush years as well, about wire-tapping, the Patriot Act, etc. The inconsistent ones tend to be the partisan Democrats and Republicans, who will excuse (or at least sit silently through) anything their own party is doing.

 

[rightwinger]

Only in your world is a captured Muslim Terrorist Kingpin equivalent to a 3 year old or Grand Ma. One of your precious moments RD?

Do terrorist kingpins wear signs or do we have to pick them out from the masses? Can grandma or a 3 year old hijack a plane? Probably not, but when we make it clear they receive a lower level security check, they become prime candidates as mules to carry weapons through a check point

I just find it odd that all civil liberties went out the window when it came to Bush and torture......anything to keep us safe

And now under Obama, a simple patdown brings screams from the libertarians

Thing is, TSA has ZERO success to speak of, but plenty of failure. An it is not a simple pat down. How about we make it so the cops can pat you down at will ?

How many successful hijackings have there been with that zero success?

There is no "at will" pat down. Once you enter security you are giving consent

 

[Momanohedhunter]

Do terrorist kingpins wear signs or do we have to pick them out from the masses? Can grandma or a 3 year old hijack a plane? Probably not, but when we make it clear they receive a lower level security check, they become prime candidates as mules to carry weapons through a check point

I just find it odd that all civil liberties went out the window when it came to Bush and torture......anything to keep us safe

And now under Obama, a simple patdown brings screams from the libertarians

Thing is, TSA has ZERO success to speak of, but plenty of failure. An it is not a simple pat down. How about we make it so the cops can pat you down at will ?

How many successful hijackings have there been with that zero success?

There is no "at will" pat down. Once you enter security you are giving consent

They have NO record of preventing anything. Only a record of feeling up kids, and stealing stuff out of peoples bags, and there are all the weapons that have gotten past them as well. They serve no purpose other then a potential revenue source for SCIU. No record to back up there existence .

 

[AmericanFirst]

I forget which founding father it was but one of the said and I am paraphrasing... those who prefer security over freedom risk losing both....

The TSA is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of anti-terror and Homeland Security.

"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither" is commonly attributed to Franklin, but some sources claim that this quote came from Richard Jackson.

She was not jailed for protecting her child.

She was jailed because she was disordely.

She should have simply refused to have her daughter patted down. If they told her she would be unable to catch her flight without the pat down, then so be it.

Screaming like a moron is not a good way to get what you want, even if what you want is perfectly reasonable

Cons show their true fascist colors.

Idiot, he is not "showing his true fascist colors" he is pointing out the FACT that the woman was jailed for diorderly conduct. You socialists on the left are fools.

 

[rightwinger]

Thing is, TSA has ZERO success to speak of, but plenty of failure. An it is not a simple pat down. How about we make it so the cops can pat you down at will ?

How many successful hijackings have there been with that zero success?

There is no "at will" pat down. Once you enter security you are giving consent

They have NO record of preventing anything. Only a record of feeling up kids, and stealing stuff out of peoples bags, and there are all the weapons that have gotten past them as well. They serve no purpose other then a potential revenue source for SCIU. No record to back up there existence .

No hijackings in the last ten years

As a frequent flyer with over a million miles under my belt, I think I'll keep them

 

[Momanohedhunter]

How many successful hijackings have there been with that zero success?

There is no "at will" pat down. Once you enter security you are giving consent

They have NO record of preventing anything. Only a record of feeling up kids, and stealing stuff out of peoples bags, and there are all the weapons that have gotten past them as well. They serve no purpose other then a potential revenue source for SCIU. No record to back up there existence .

No hijackings in the last ten years

As a frequent flyer with over a million miles under my belt, I think I'll keep them

And no prevented high jacking either. But they have plenty of cases of theft, and security failures. The fact that the TSA is there and that we are talking about it is a tribute to Binladen. He accomplished his goal. And the sheep say Baaaa.

 

[Contumacious]

Do terrorist kingpins wear signs or do we have to pick them out from the masses? Can grandma or a 3 year old hijack a plane? Probably not, but when we make it clear they receive a lower level security check, they become prime candidates as mules to carry weapons through a check point

I just find it odd that all civil liberties went out the window when it came to Bush and torture......anything to keep us safe

And now under Obama, a simple patdown brings screams from the libertarians

Thing is, TSA has ZERO success to speak of, but plenty of failure. An it is not a simple pat down. How about we make it so the cops can pat you down at will ?

How many successful hijackings have there been with that zero success?

There is no "at will" pat down. Once you enter security you are giving consent

Abandon all hope, ye who enter here

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[Robert]

Seems to me if there ever was a time for direct Civil Disobedience that time would be now this governmental tyranny must be stopped.


Civil Disobedience 2011; Standing up to the TSA
Blog: Civil Disobedience 2011; Standing up to the TSA

 

[BlindBoo]

The article states that she was arrested after she refused to calm down, not beccause she was shielding her daughter......

 

[Momanohedhunter]

lets just look at how good they are doing


By MATTHEW MOSK, ANGELA HILL and TIMOTHY FLEMING
Dec. 16, 2010

Last fall, as he had done hundreds of times, Iranian-American businessman Farid Seif passed through security at a Houston airport and boarded an international flight.

He didn't realize he had forgotten to remove the loaded snub nose "baby" Glock pistol from his computer bag. But TSA officers never noticed as his bag glided along the belt and was x-rayed. When he got to his hotel after the three-hour flight, he was shocked to discover the gun traveled unnoticed from Houston.

"It's just impossible to miss it, you know. I mean, this is not a small gun," Seif told ABC News. "How can you miss it? You cannot miss it."

Airport Security: Loaded Gun Slips Past TSA Screeners - ABC News


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Report slams TSA failure to track security passes
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People using improper badges, IDs or uniforms, particularly in combination, "could significantly increase an airport's vulnerability to unauthorized access and, potentially, a wide variety of terrorist and criminal acts," the report said.
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People using improper badges, IDs or uniforms, particularly in combination, "could significantly increase an airport's vulnerability to unauthorized access and, potentially, a wide variety of terrorist and criminal acts," the report said.

FINDINGS

• In 73 cases, officers left TSA jobs, but offices that monitor airport security passes were not properly notified.

• One security officer had an active pass to the airport's secure areas for 827 days after leaving the agency.

• Investigators found 82 instances of former security officers whose uniforms were not returned or could not be accounted for.

• TSA employee identification cards were not adequately monitored.


By Alan Levin, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The agency overseeing security at the nation's airports failed for years to track security passes and uniforms of former employees, creating widespread vulnerability to terrorists, says a government watchdog report obtained by USA TODAY.

Report slams TSA failure to track security passes - USATODAY.com

TSA and Obama/security failures
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- Dr. Laurie Roth Wednesday, January 6, 2010

The legacy continues. TSA and Obama are competing now. Isn’t it splendid? I feel like we are watching “American Idol for Security Failures” starring TSA and Obama. Let’s look at their song selections so far:
TSA

This Christmas a plane nearly explodes in mid air with a Nigerian, Muslim radical trying to blow himself up: According to Doug Hagmann of Northeast Intelligence Network, who talked with various passengers on other flights, there have been similar behavior and obvious dry runs happening with Muslim passengers on other flights.

TSA and Obama/security failures

Now, We pay them to do what ? All I hear is crickets. This is what you get for all your tax dollars that have been spent.

Unions rally to represent TSA workers
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Two unions are ratcheting up their drives to represent 48,000 Transportation Security Administration screeners and other employees awaiting word from their new leader about whether they’ll be allowed to collectively bargain.

Unions rally to represent TSA workers - BostonHerald.com

It is clear that the Obama administration is only after 48,000 more much needed votes, and one more avenue for tax payer money to be funneled into his campaign funds.

 

[Contumacious]

Seems to me if there ever was a time for direct Civil Disobedience that time would be now this governmental tyranny must be stopped.

No siree. We having none of that.That's the reason we sent you to a government indoctrination center for 12 years .

Every politically controlled educational system will inculcate the doctrine of state supremacy sooner or later. . . . Once that doctrine has been accepted, it becomes an almost superhuman task to break the stranglehold of the political power over the life of the citizen. It has had his body, property and mind in its clutches from infancy. An octopus would sooner release its prey. A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state.

–Isabel Paterson, The God of the Machine (1943)

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[Steve Hanson]

It's not like the TSA is groping and fondling and slipping dollar bills down your pants. This is way out of control and everybody is offended way too easily IMO.

 

[Intense]

The article states that she was arrested after she refused to calm down, not beccause she was shielding her daughter......

Yes it does. It is important to to either keep your cool, or STFU if you lose control with Law Enforcement for that exact reason. They are holding most of the cards, that's just the way it is. Still, there are aspects here that resemble a festering wound, there is unresolved intrusion and abuse issues. How would you solve the problem, let them have their way? Either way they win then, and continue bad behavior. The Airport is a frustrating place, TSA is a frustrating job, there is no excuse for public humiliation in doing it, admittedly like S&M it is probably a turn on for some, but that does not make it okay for the rest of us. Arrogance, burnout, on either side of the equation is a problem. Nobody should be excusing abuse.

 

[Momanohedhunter]

The article states that she was arrested after she refused to calm down, not beccause she was shielding her daughter......

Yes it does. It is important to to either keep your cool, or STFU if you lose control with Law Enforcement for that exact reason. They are holding most of the cards, that's just the way it is. Still, there are aspects here that resemble a festering wound, there is unresolved intrusion and abuse issues. How would you solve the problem, let them have their way? Either way they win then, and continue bad behavior. The Airport is a frustrating place, TSA is a frustrating job, there is no excuse for public humiliation in doing it, admittedly like S&M it is probably a turn on for some, but that does not make it okay for the rest of us. Arrogance, burnout, on either side of the equation is a problem. Nobody should be excusing abuse.

TSA screeners are NOT, NOT law enforcement. They are federal security agents WITH OUT the power of arrest. They rely on Airport cops to make arrests. That is to much responsibility for quality of employee that make up the TSA to have.

 

[Robert]

The article states that she was arrested after she refused to calm down, not beccause she was shielding her daughter......

Yes it does. It is important to to either keep your cool, or STFU if you lose control with Law Enforcement for that exact reason. They are holding most of the cards, that's just the way it is. Still, there are aspects here that resemble a festering wound, there is unresolved intrusion and abuse issues. How would you solve the problem, let them have their way? Either way they win then, and continue bad behavior. The Airport is a frustrating place, TSA is a frustrating job, there is no excuse for public humiliation in doing it, admittedly like S&M it is probably a turn on for some, but that does not make it okay for the rest of us. Arrogance, burnout, on either side of the equation is a problem. Nobody should be excusing abuse.

TSA screeners are NOT, NOT law enforcement. They are federal security agents WITH OUT the power of arrest. They rely on Airport cops to make arrests. That is to much responsibility for quality of employee that make up the TSA to have.

Glorified Mall cops with no legal law enforcement standing, This lady had every right to become hostile when you have a group of individuals who are attempting to force a person to do something they stated will not happen especially attempting to force a Child. or a 85 year old parent in a wheel chair who has cancer.

 

[Ravi]

The article states that she was arrested after she refused to calm down, not beccause she was shielding her daughter......

Yes it does. It is important to to either keep your cool, or STFU if you lose control with Law Enforcement for that exact reason. They are holding most of the cards, that's just the way it is. Still, there are aspects here that resemble a festering wound, there is unresolved intrusion and abuse issues. How would you solve the problem, let them have their way? Either way they win then, and continue bad behavior. The Airport is a frustrating place, TSA is a frustrating job, there is no excuse for public humiliation in doing it, admittedly like S&M it is probably a turn on for some, but that does not make it okay for the rest of us. Arrogance, burnout, on either side of the equation is a problem. Nobody should be excusing abuse.

What the hell are you babbling about? S&M?

And THERE WAS NO ABUSE. duh!

 

[BlindBoo]

The article states that she was arrested after she refused to calm down, not beccause she was shielding her daughter......

Yes it does. It is important to to either keep your cool, or STFU if you lose control with Law Enforcement for that exact reason. They are holding most of the cards, that's just the way it is. Still, there are aspects here that resemble a festering wound, there is unresolved intrusion and abuse issues. How would you solve the problem, let them have their way? Either way they win then, and continue bad behavior. The Airport is a frustrating place, TSA is a frustrating job, there is no excuse for public humiliation in doing it, admittedly like S&M it is probably a turn on for some, but that does not make it okay for the rest of us. Arrogance, burnout, on either side of the equation is a problem. Nobody should be excusing abuse.

TSA screeners are NOT, NOT law enforcement. They are federal security agents WITH OUT the power of arrest. They rely on Airport cops to make arrests. That is to much responsibility for quality of employee that make up the TSA to have.

And she was arrested by the Airport Cops for causing a public disturbance