Trump pushed postmaster general to double Amazon's shipping rates

[miketx]

The Toxic Orange Turd has officially become more Nixonian than Nixon himself. Wonder if he has an Enemies List?

President Trump followed through on his frequent complaint that Amazon is costing the U.S. Postal Service "many billions of dollars" by urging the postmaster general to double the rate the U.S. Postal Service charges Amazon and other companies to ship their packages, the Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing three sources familiar with the conversations between U.S. Postmaster General Megan Brennan and President Trump, the Post also reported that Brennan has not acceded to the president's wishes for several reasons. For one, the Postal Service has binding contracts with these companies, and a regulatory commission would have to review those contracts. But she has also reportedly told Mr. Trump that the USPS relationship with Amazon is beneficial. In 2017, Postal Service revenues from private shippers including Amazon added up to $7 billion, Politifact noted.

If the rates were doubled, it would cost Amazon and private shippers billions, which would likely be passed on in the form of higher prices for shoppers.

The Post's sources said that Brennan and Mr. Trump have met on this issue several times beginning in 2017 and also had a meeting on it four months ago -- none of which appeared on Mr. Trump's public schedule.​

Trump has pushed postmaster general to double Amazon's shipping rates, report says

Apparently Trumpelthinskin is not only angry about WaPo's honest coverage of his presiduncey - Bezos suggested launching him into space ... a VERY fine idea!

Jeff Bezos on Twitter

Good for him. Amazon should pay more. I think he bumped their rates because Bezos is gay.

 

[DrLove]

"At least where I live"...that is the thing.
In major cities, or smaller towns very close to a major city, the service is undoubtedly better.
But that is not the case in more rural settings like mine.
UPS is outstanding here, Fedex is pretty good....USPS parcel is hit and miss to say the least.
And I have had Prime for years. It isn't any better. For a while Prime was "UPS only"...and you're right several items are 2 day guaranteed and they always use UPS exclusively for those. All the rest is the problem.

Will UPS deliver a first class letter for 50 cents? Nope

USPS going out of business would affect rural customers the most. Older folks don't pay their bills online.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The Toxic Orange Turd has officially become more Nixonian than Nixon himself. Wonder if he has an Enemies List?

President Trump followed through on his frequent complaint that Amazon is costing the U.S. Postal Service "many billions of dollars" by urging the postmaster general to double the rate the U.S. Postal Service charges Amazon and other companies to ship their packages, the Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing three sources familiar with the conversations between U.S. Postmaster General Megan Brennan and President Trump, the Post also reported that Brennan has not acceded to the president's wishes for several reasons. For one, the Postal Service has binding contracts with these companies, and a regulatory commission would have to review those contracts. But she has also reportedly told Mr. Trump that the USPS relationship with Amazon is beneficial. In 2017, Postal Service revenues from private shippers including Amazon added up to $7 billion, Politifact noted.

If the rates were doubled, it would cost Amazon and private shippers billions, which would likely be passed on in the form of higher prices for shoppers.

The Post's sources said that Brennan and Mr. Trump have met on this issue several times beginning in 2017 and also had a meeting on it four months ago -- none of which appeared on Mr. Trump's public schedule.​

Trump has pushed postmaster general to double Amazon's shipping rates, report says

Apparently Trumpelthinskin is not only angry about WaPo's honest coverage of his presiduncey - Bezos suggested launching him into space ... a VERY fine idea!

Jeff Bezos on Twitter

Oh look, the Communists are fucking lying again - how unique.

Trump has no say over postal rates.


http://www.upsmailinnovations.com/pdfs/How_Postal_Rates_Set.pdf

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The USPS has outlived its usefulness. Someday you old people may realize that.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/---/- Why should we subsidize Amazon's shipping costs? Why Tinkerbell, why?

We're not - Why do you continue to believe Trump's whoppers?

No, the Postal Service isn't losing a fortune on Amazon
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/amazon-bankrupting-united-states-postal-service/
Does the post office actually lose money on Amazon?

/——/ Not so. It’s a long running argument Amazon and UPS have been quietly fighting over the post office’s cost structure — long before Trump

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Ummm ummmm...why doesn't bezos want to pay his fair share...….plus hes a modern slaver......

Apparently you failed to read the story and check out the links. USPS is making a fortune off Amazon and they offer every other large bulk shipper the same exact rate.

DOnt think it said fortune......and theres nothing wrong with making more......

In 2017, Postal Service revenues from private shippers including Amazon added up to $7 billion, Politifact noted.

Aye, but...and this is a big one, it is noted that the rates given are at least break even, but all data points to "just above costs".
That means they are losing money.
Why? Because the numbers don't include capital and other service cost in that figure. In order for the USPS to deliver the $7bn in packages, the overall equipment/employee/facility-logistical needs surpass the revenue.
This is true in any business. You cannot have "wholesale" revenue streams beyond whatever the critical mass costs of doing business. In these cases, the cost of doing business is higher than the small profits allow.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The USPS has outlived its usefulness. Someday you old people may realize that.

Not true at all. Someday young people may realize this.
Specifically when dealing with "official or critical" information, you need a legally protected means of communication. For both sides.
But more than that is the enormous advertising benefits of mail. No other marketing strategy even remotely comes close to the success rate of targeted mail. None. It's not even up for debate.
Email/online advertising has the largest ROI due to the exceptionally high cost of direct mail, and the low cost of online. However the hit-rate is not even close. And depending on your needs, the direct mail option leaving would crush businesses everywhere.

 

[Care4all]

It's an abuse of power, no dancing around it!!!

 

[danielpalos]

The Toxic Orange Turd has officially become more Nixonian than Nixon himself. Wonder if he has an Enemies List?

President Trump followed through on his frequent complaint that Amazon is costing the U.S. Postal Service "many billions of dollars" by urging the postmaster general to double the rate the U.S. Postal Service charges Amazon and other companies to ship their packages, the Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing three sources familiar with the conversations between U.S. Postmaster General Megan Brennan and President Trump, the Post also reported that Brennan has not acceded to the president's wishes for several reasons. For one, the Postal Service has binding contracts with these companies, and a regulatory commission would have to review those contracts. But she has also reportedly told Mr. Trump that the USPS relationship with Amazon is beneficial. In 2017, Postal Service revenues from private shippers including Amazon added up to $7 billion, Politifact noted.

If the rates were doubled, it would cost Amazon and private shippers billions, which would likely be passed on in the form of higher prices for shoppers.

The Post's sources said that Brennan and Mr. Trump have met on this issue several times beginning in 2017 and also had a meeting on it four months ago -- none of which appeared on Mr. Trump's public schedule.​

Trump has pushed postmaster general to double Amazon's shipping rates, report says

Apparently Trumpelthinskin is not only angry about WaPo's honest coverage of his presiduncey - Bezos suggested launching him into space ... a VERY fine idea!

Jeff Bezos on Twitter

I guess Seattle isn't so, left wing, after all.

 

[DrLove]

Aye, but...and this is a big one, it is noted that the rates given are at least break even, but all data points to "just above costs".
That means they are losing money.
Why? Because the numbers don't include capital and other service cost in that figure. In order for the USPS to deliver the $7bn in packages, the overall equipment/employee/facility-logistical needs surpass the revenue.
This is true in any business. You cannot have "wholesale" revenue streams beyond whatever the critical mass costs of doing business. In these cases, the cost of doing business is higher than the small profits allow.

Again, USPS charges every other large bulk shipper the same rate and they are indeed turning a profit on package delivery, while taking a loss on just about everything else. Here's a good read:

What the US post office really gets from Amazon

My mail delivery gal has been there for 30 years and close to retirement. She said that if it weren't for Amazon, they'd be struggling mightily. USPS is VERY profitable. The reason they post losses is the Republican bill forcing them to fund employee pensions 75 years in advance.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The USPS has outlived its usefulness. Someday you old people may realize that.

Not true at all. Someday young people may realize this.
Specifically when dealing with "official or critical" information, you need a legally protected means of communication. For both sides.
But more than that is the enormous advertising benefits of mail. No other marketing strategy even remotely comes close to the success rate of targeted mail. None. It's not even up for debate.
Email/online advertising has the largest ROI due to the exceptionally high cost of direct mail, and the low cost of online. However the hit-rate is not even close. And depending on your needs, the direct mail option leaving would crush businesses everywhere.

Specifically when dealing with "official or critical" information, you need a legally protected means of communication. For both sides.
Online too,,,..... perhaps more so since more of it occurs there, Problems and abuse will continue to grow

 

[Issa]

Ummm ummmm...why doesn't bezos want to pay his fair share...….plus hes a modern slaver......

When was the last time the orange paid taxes ? Bezos is miles richer and more successful than the orange btw.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Ummm ummmm...why doesn't bezos want to pay his fair share...….plus hes a modern slaver......

When was the last time the orange paid taxes ? Bezos is miles richer and more successful than the orange btw.

Bet Trump pays more taxes than Bezos......plus Trump is working for free

 

[miketx]

Ummm ummmm...why doesn't bezos want to pay his fair share...….plus hes a modern slaver......

When was the last time the orange paid taxes ? Bezos is miles richer and more successful than the orange btw.

Did you just make that up or did the MSM tell you?

 

[Issa]

Ummm ummmm...why doesn't bezos want to pay his fair share...….plus hes a modern slaver......

When was the last time the orange paid taxes ? Bezos is miles richer and more successful than the orange btw.

Bet Trump pays more taxes than Bezos......plus Trump is working for free

Did you see the oranges tax return ? Working for free my ass. His golf trips plus the bribes he gets from other countries will amount to billions.

 

[DrLove]

Ummm ummmm...why doesn't bezos want to pay his fair share...….plus hes a modern slaver......

When was the last time the orange paid taxes ? Bezos is miles richer and more successful than the orange btw.

Yep, that's the other thing that pisses off Drumpf - Bezos is far richer and infinitely more successful.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The USPS has outlived its usefulness. Someday you old people may realize that.

Not true at all. Someday young people may realize this.
Specifically when dealing with "official or critical" information, you need a legally protected means of communication. For both sides.
But more than that is the enormous advertising benefits of mail. No other marketing strategy even remotely comes close to the success rate of targeted mail. None. It's not even up for debate.
Email/online advertising has the largest ROI due to the exceptionally high cost of direct mail, and the low cost of online. However the hit-rate is not even close. And depending on your needs, the direct mail option leaving would crush businesses everywhere.

Couldn't disagree more. Opinions and all that jazz

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The USPS has outlived its usefulness. Someday you old people may realize that.

Not true at all. Someday young people may realize this.
Specifically when dealing with "official or critical" information, you need a legally protected means of communication. For both sides.
But more than that is the enormous advertising benefits of mail. No other marketing strategy even remotely comes close to the success rate of targeted mail. None. It's not even up for debate.
Email/online advertising has the largest ROI due to the exceptionally high cost of direct mail, and the low cost of online. However the hit-rate is not even close. And depending on your needs, the direct mail option leaving would crush businesses everywhere.

Couldn't disagree more. Opinions and all that jazz

That's ok, but you can't disagree with what is factually true.
And the fact is direct mail is an enormously successful and needed marketing strategy. Period.
Like I said, it isn't even up for debate.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The USPS has outlived its usefulness. Someday you old people may realize that.

Not true at all. Someday young people may realize this.
Specifically when dealing with "official or critical" information, you need a legally protected means of communication. For both sides.
But more than that is the enormous advertising benefits of mail. No other marketing strategy even remotely comes close to the success rate of targeted mail. None. It's not even up for debate.
Email/online advertising has the largest ROI due to the exceptionally high cost of direct mail, and the low cost of online. However the hit-rate is not even close. And depending on your needs, the direct mail option leaving would crush businesses everywhere.

Couldn't disagree more. Opinions and all that jazz

That's ok, but you can't disagree with what is factually true.
And the fact is direct mail is an enormously successful and needed marketing strategy. Period.
Like I said, it isn't even up for debate.

Sure I can. Direct mail can just as easily be accomplished without it being an institution that is tied to our inefficient government.

The USPS needs to be abolished

 

[Coyote]

It is way wrong for the president to use his powers to attempt to go after private entities based on personal vendettas like this. Whether he actually can or not is irrelevant. His recommendations carry weight and just attempting it is disturbing.