Liz Cheney withholds evidence exonerating Trump J6

[Delldude]

Mc Connell has a deferent outlook HE WAS THERE. He blames Trump for a violent insurrection with beaten law Enforcement and destruction in the capital…

He also was aware of the same intel briefing.

 

[Chillicothe]

The J6 farce was a scripted, made-for-TV

Didja watch it?
Didja read the Final Report?
If you didn't do either....you should.
Be a better you, Hollie.

 

[Hollie]

Didja watch it?
Didja read the Final Report?
If you didn't do either....you should.
Be a better you, Hollie.

You were impressed by the cheap theatrics, right?

You were impressed by weepy Adam Kinzinger?

If you did either, you were a part of the Clown Show.

Maybe you can’t do better poster Chillicothe.

 

[Dagosa]

You were impressed by the cheap theatrics, right?

You were impressed by weepy Adam Kinzinger?

If you did either, you were a part of the Clown Show.

Maybe you can’t do better poster Chillicothe.

We’re you vacationing in Guatemala ?

 

[Delldude]

To march down Pennsylvania Avenue in the manner that crowd did....without a pre-issued permit by the authorities.....is not allowed.

When was this march supposed to start?

It is illegal to do so, blocking commerce, traffic, and normal city business. Not to mention endangering citizens.

Looked like the roads already were closed.

 

[Chillicothe]

You were impressed by the cheap theatrics, right?

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I didn't observe your perceived "cheap theatrics".

Hardly.

I was impressed by the measured questioning, the measured openings & wrap-ups, and their respectful and professional questioning of witnesses. All of them.
'All of them'...being both the witnesses and the Republican and Democratic Representative's on that committee.

I believed the evidence.... and believed the witnesses were credible.

And....not unimportantly ..... those potential witnesses who could have provided rebuttal? ..

Well, they didn't.
They refused to provide any rebuttal under oath.

Rather, they seemingly felt they had no effective rebuttal.

(see the list of potential witnesses offered in post #231. )
To wit:

• Jim Jordan
• Mark Meadows
• Dan Scavino
• Steve Bannon
• Peter Navarro
• Scott Perry
• Andy Biggs
• And notably, Don Trump himself.

 

[Chillicothe]

When was this march supposed to start?

I don't know.

And, to that point, it appears the law enforcement forces that would be expected to know.....if a permit had been requested.....didn't know either.

And, as we so tragically saw, they weren't apprised of the intention to announce a march.

Mendaciously...not apprised.
In my opinion.

Why weren't they alerted?

 

[lennypartiv]

And some in MAGAland and QAnonistan wonder why they are snickered and laughed at by the citizens in RealPeople-world?

People in the real world don't approve of stolen elections.

 

[Delldude]

And, to that point, it appears the law enforcement forces that would be expected to know.....if a permit had been requested.....didn't know either.

Homeland Security Bureau JST ACC Division Intelligence Branch Special Note:

Information regarding First Amendment assemblies is often fluid and subject to change

OCR of the Document | National Security Archive

nsarchive.gwu.edu

Why weren't they alerted?

They had a heads up in late December......they weren't prepared for it............which is obvious.

I don't know.

Does it really matter then?

Did USCP break the law when they fired on a large group exercising their first amendment rights?

 

[Chillicothe]

People in the real world don't approve of stolen elections.

Hence, the widespread revulsion by America, and the world, at the attempted theft by Don Trump on January 6th, 2021.

Not to mention the arrests and convictions of Trump Supporters who were the 'cat's-paw' duped to effect that attempted theft of a presidential election from the winning Democrat candidate ....in order to keep the failed Republican candidate in office.

The only "stolen election" at issue is the one that Don Trump tried to steal on January 6th. Duh!



Lenny, amigo.....stick with Cyber Ninjas. They brought you a kind of fame.

 

[Chillicothe]

The Deep State is real.

Name names, Lenny.
And then tell us how you could possibly know who is who in the Deep State?

They had a heads up in late December

Why did Trump and his enablers NOT apply for permits for a march, and instruct those who were in-the-know to not divulge of Trump's plan to order a march from the podium?

Was there mendacious intent?

As a leader concerned with the safety of the loyal hard-working citizens who guard and service the Capitol why would Don Trump intentionally anger and incite his supporters at the Eclipse ......and then direct them to go to the Capitol? Why would he intentionally put employees at risk of harm? Most especially when he knew a significant number of those angered supporters were armed? Why wouldn't he have given a heads-up to the Capitol Police that he was gonna direct an angered and armed mob at 'em?

 

[Hollie]

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I didn't observe your perceived "cheap theatrics".

Hardly.

I was impressed by the measured questioning, the measured openings & wrap-ups, and their respectful and professional questioning of witnesses. All of them.
'All of them'...being both the witnesses and the Republican and Democratic Representative's on that committee.

I believed the evidence.... and believed the witnesses were credible.

And....not unimportantly ..... those potential witnesses who could have provided rebuttal? ..

Well, they didn't.
They refused to provide any rebuttal under oath.

Rather, they seemingly felt they had no effective rebuttal.

(see the list of potential witnesses offered in post #231. )
To wit:

• Jim Jordan
• Mark Meadows
• Dan Scavino
• Steve Bannon
• Peter Navarro
• Scott Perry
• Andy Biggs
• And notably, Don Trump himself.

Dear poster, Chillicothe. Is it possible that your Trump Hatred Syndrome™ caused you to see the J6 made for TV movie as something other than a version of the 1936-38 Moscow Trials?

The cast of silly characters on the committee were a who’s who of leftist loons and TDS afflicted.

 

[Chillicothe]

"....the J6 made for TV movie as something other than a version of the 1936-38 Moscow Trials?"

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So, good poster Hollie, did you read the Final Report? (linked in several posts, but Google too, can find it for you).

And, did you actually watch the televised hearings?
If you did, which of the witnesses did you find the most compelling?
Which one the least?

Same type of question can be applied to the Committee members, which one was the most organized and incisive?

Which one the least?

Did you think the testimony of Trump's Attorney General, William Barr, when he told Don Trump his claims of a "stolen election was bullshit" was effective use of an eyewitness?

And were you disappointed, or even just surprised when all those eyewitnesses refused to testify in Don Trump's defense? to offer rebuttal to the Committee's findings and witnesses? (see the list in post #246).

• Jim Jordan
• Mark Meadows
• Dan Scavino
• Steve Bannon
• Peter Navarro
• Scott Perry
• Andy Biggs
• Don Trump himself.

 

[Hollie]

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So, good poster Hollie, did you read the Final Report? (linked in several posts, but Google too, can find it for you).

And, did you actually watch the televised hearings?
If you did, which of the witnesses did you find the most compelling?
Which one the least?

Same type of question can be applied to the Committee members, which one was the most organized and incisive?

Which one the least?

Did you think the testimony of Trump's Attorney General, William Barr, when he told Don Trump his claims of a "stolen election was bullshit" was effective use of an eyewitness?

And were you disappointed, or even just surprised when all those eyewitnesses refused to testify in Don Trump's defense? to offer rebuttal to the Committee's findings and witnesses? (see the list in post #246).

• Jim Jordan
• Mark Meadows
• Dan Scavino
• Steve Bannon
• Peter Navarro
• Scott Perry
• Andy Biggs
• Don Trump himself.

So, good poster, Chillicothe.

What point is served by copying and pasting your same post multiple times?

 

[Chillicothe]

"What point is served by copying and pasting your same post multiple times?"

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Poster Hollie, I was trying to be helpful in boiling down to questions that could signal to the forum the sincerity, and the seriousness of purpose of contributing posters.

In short, I think it more productive to the forum to have posters who have an 'informed opinion', i.e., those who had recognized their civic responsibility to America, and their adult responsibility to this forum to at least attempt to be informed. To have read the Final Report and/or viewed the hearings.

That is the 'point' of offering that list of key eyewitnesses who felt they had no rebuttal or no defense of Don Trump's attempts to steal the election from the American people, and the winning Democrat candidate.,,,,on January 6th, 2021.

That's all, Hollie. Trust me.
I have only a desire for responsible adult discourse.

 

[Hollie]

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Poster Hollie, I was trying to be helpful in boiling down to questions that could signal to the forum the sincerity, and the seriousness of purpose of contributing posters.

In short, I think it more productive to the forum to have posters who have an 'informed opinion', i.e., those who had recognized their civic responsibility to America, and their adult responsibility to this forum to at least attempt to be informed. To have read the Final Report and/or viewed the hearings.

That is the 'point' of offering that list of key eyewitnesses who felt they had no rebuttal or no defense of Don Trump's attempts to steal the election from the American people, and the winning Democrat candidate.,,,,on January 6th, 2021.

That's all, Hollie. Trust me.
I have only a desire for responsible adult discourse.

Good poster, Chillicothe.

Informed opinions are a valuable asset.

Critical analysis is also a valuable asset and exercise. That is why a critical analysis of the J6 made-for-TV docudrama was such a laughable example of a Dem / Socialist Witch hunt.

Let's remember that the J6 Clown Show was another episode of the Stalin'esque tactics that define the Dem / Socialist poliburo. From the "Russia collusion" hoax and two failed impeachments of Trump, the Dems / Socialists have a history of one politico-religious Jihad after another in attempting to deny Americans the right to pick their candidate of choice.

 

[Chillicothe]

"That is why a critical analysis of the J6 made-for-TV docudrama...."

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You seemingly are missing the point, poster Hollie. Tho no disrespect intended. However, "critical analysis" while a good a worthy goal depends......well, it depends very very much upon homework. Upon due diligence. Upon knowledge of the subject being "critically analyzed". I am mildly convinced you should know that.

So, those who wish to offer "critical analysis" yet do not have the ambition, desire, or sense of responsibility to, at very minimum, examine at length the very thing they wish to offer "critical analysis" of...well then, they are likely imposters. Unserious wanna-be-taken-serious dilletantes.

In short, poster Hollie, homework really really does have utilitarian value in adult life....and in responsible adult discourse.

I am mildly sure you would have been exposed to such in your schooling.

So, at the end of the day, if you wish to offer "critical analysis" of the J6 Hearings......then do your due diligence.

Lest folks think you are just another big-hatted cowgirl who owns no cows.


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"two failed impeachments of Trump"

Actually, both impeachment's were successful. Both in a bi-partisan fashion. Hence Don Trump is the only POTUS to have earned that rather disreputable identity.

However, due to jury-nullification (think OJ Simpson) no conviction in the Senate was achieved.

 

[Hollie]

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You seemingly are missing the point, poster Hollie. Tho no disrespect intended. However, "critical analysis" while a good a worthy goal depends......well, it depends very very much upon homework. Upon due diligence. Upon knowledge of the subject being "critically analyzed". I am mildly convinced you should know that.

So, those who wish to offer "critical analysis" yet do not have the ambition, desire, or sense of responsibility to, at very minimum, examine at length the very thing they wish to offer "critical analysis" of...well then, they are likely imposters. Unserious wanna-be-taken-serious dilletantes.

In short, poster Hollie, homework really really does have utilitarian value in adult life....and in responsible adult discourse.

I am mildly sure you would have been exposed to such in your schooling.

So, at the end of the day, if you wish to offer "critical analysis" of the J6 Hearings......then do your due diligence.

Lest folks think you are just another big-hatted cowgirl who owns no cows.


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Actually, both impeachment's were successful. Both in a bi-partisan fashion. Hence Don Trump is the only POTUS to have earned that rather disreputable identity.

However, due to jury-nullification (think OJ Simpson) no conviction in the Senate was achieved.

So, good poster, Chillicothe.

While I'm delighted you agree that critical thinking and assessment are vital tools, those elements clearly point to another chapter of the Dem / Socialist Jihad aimed at Trump.

In addition to the two politically motivated and phony impeachments, we also have the DIE hire flunky DA's who are little more than Dem / Socialist minions being in the queue to file lawsuit after lawsuit ained at keeping Trump off ballots. Those are obvious instances of election interference intended to deny voters a choice of candidate.

The Dem / Socialist party has become little more than an "Election Interference Syndicate" that employs the tactics of Stalinist / Leninist regimes.

Excuse and hand wave that off as you like. I will not.

 

[Chillicothe]

In my humble opinion, poster Holly, you are not a serious poster. You offer only thin sloganizing and bumper-sticker political philosophy.

Respond only after you have either read the Final Report from the J6 Committee, or, watched the hearings (available on YouTube).
Homework is a useful thing.
Due diligence has value if one wishes to acquire gravitas or credibility.
Otherwise, there is no need for you to respond.

Good Luck to you.

C.

 

[Hollie]

In my humble opinion, poster Holly, you are not a serious poster. You offer only thin sloganizing and bumper-sticker political philosophy.

Respond only after you have either read the Final Report from the J6 Committee, or, watched the hearings (available on YouTube).
Homework is a useful thing.
Due diligence has value if one wishes to acquire gravitas or credibility.
Otherwise, there is no need for you to respond.

Good Luck to you.

C.

Your opinion was expected.

You are not taken seriously as you can't acknowledge the obvious tactics of the Dems / Socialists. You have this odd notion that the J6 Clown Show was something other than a farcical attempt at yet another Jihad attack aimed at Trump.

Respond only after you have carefully considered your own biases and prejudices, otherwise, repeatedly cutting and pasting the contents of your earlier posts is just a waste of bandwidth.