trump loses another one

[surada]

One thing I’ll say, is that it’s useless to threaten violence. Especially on an anonymous platform. Republicans have always rejected violence. Hell, in most all cases we don’t even ’take to the streets’…

Some claim its apathy, others that it’s because we actually have jobs to go to. So, all of this is projection.

Some of my real friends, dem and republicans, (yes I have dem friends) say that the country is already changed. That progressive liberals, who’ve made a mockery of the constitution have already made it irrelevant…

So, what our goal here? Is there one? Or do we just accept a dem socialist model, and decline to Venezuela type misery?

only to be viewed in the future as “a once great nation”? Sad.

Trump is using religion and violent rhetoric every day... louder than ever.

Socialist model? You're a parrot. Venezuela had no middle class, that's why they elected Hugo Chavez. You sure don't know anything about the history of Venezuela.

 

[surada]

lol calling people "commies" isnt gonna get you anywhere, boy. You sound desperate. You gonna be reading about the trial or you gonna put your head in the sand?

It is pretty comical to call everyone Communists... Trump does that every day. He is so limited in his intelligence and education.

 

[ActionJackson]

Some more sparkly things to keep the lefties entertained:

 

[SavannahMann]

No, that was peaceful. Next time Democrats cheat like that, it will be war.

No need to go to the capital, unless you're already there to eradicate the vermin.

I'll tell you this right now: Democrats cannot cheat another election without there being massive violence your peabrain can't even fathom against them.

Why wait. Start it now. November is not good campaign weather. Nor is January. Spring and Summer. Now that is good campaign weather.

 

[SeaMajor7]

It is pretty comical to call everyone Communists... Trump does that every day. He is so limited in his intelligence and education.

Yeah, rampant LAWFARE against your political ENEMY is soooooooo Americana!
No, it's NOT!
How did we get here?
Communism???
How's that?
Well, let's look at real HISTORY for a clue....

From 1985:
Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
_________________________________
So YES, the demented LEFT in this country TODAY are a DIRECT result of the Human Pathogen known as MARXISM.
Political LAWFARE is being openly celebrated by YOU demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist brainwashed ASSHOLES, but when called out you scoff at the mention of "communists" without any sense of SELF-AWARENESS or HISTORY all while our CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC is being ATTACKED by......wait for it........
COMMUNISM

 

[surada]

Yeah, rampant LAWFARE against your political ENEMY is soooooooo Americana!
No, it's NOT!
How did we get here?
Communism???
How's that?
Well, let's look at real HISTORY for a clue....

From 1985:
Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
_________________________________
So YES, the demented LEFT in this country TODAY are a DIRECT result of the Human Pathogen known as MARXISM.
Political LAWFARE is being openly celebrated by YOU demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist brainwashed ASSHOLES, but when called out you scoff at the mention of "communists" without any sense of SELF-AWARENESS or HISTORY all while our CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC is being ATTACKED by......wait for it........
COMMUNISM

Nice cut and paste.

Trump is gaslighting you with his claim of communism.

 

[SavannahMann]

Yeah, rampant LAWFARE against your political ENEMY is soooooooo Americana!
No, it's NOT!
How did we get here?
Communism???
How's that?
Well, let's look at real HISTORY for a clue....

From 1985:
Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
_________________________________
So YES, the demented LEFT in this country TODAY are a DIRECT result of the Human Pathogen known as MARXISM.
Political LAWFARE is being openly celebrated by YOU demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist brainwashed ASSHOLES, but when called out you scoff at the mention of "communists" without any sense of SELF-AWARENESS or HISTORY all while our CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC is being ATTACKED by......wait for it........
COMMUNISM

I keep hearing that. But Trump isn’t charged with crimes against the People. Trump is charged with specific criminal acts. No new laws are created to get him. The Espionage Act has been on the books for a Century as one example. It’s been a crime to do what Trump has done for literally a Century.

It isn’t a crime to pay someone to keep their mouths shut. Unless you are paying them to be quiet about a crime, or bribing them to do something for you.

But it is and has been a crime to claim that payoff as a business expense for tax purposes.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Like gulags, you fuckin' commie?

More like concentration camps.

 

[Mac1958]

It is pretty comical to call everyone Communists... Trump does that every day. He is so limited in his intelligence and education.

They don't know what they're talking about. They don't know what communism is. But in their world, they don't need to.

Then, when they venture out into Normal World, they look like a poor excuse for Archie Bunker.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Nice cut and paste.

Trump is gaslighting you with his claim of communism.

Your inability to refute ANYTHING from what I posted is noted.
Here's some more REAL HISTORY that helped to scramble the minds of Americans throughout the 20th century.....
The Reality of Red Subversion

The Reality of Red Subversion
The Recent Confirmation of Soviet Espionage in America
STEPHEN J. SNIEGOSKI • SEPTEMBER 1, 2003

In an apparent effort to illustrate political simple-mindedness, Carroll Quigley derisively wrote in his noted (at least by the John Birch Society) Tragedy and Hope, that the “same groups who were howling about Soviet espionage in 1948-1955 were also claiming that President Roosevelt expected and wanted Pearl Harbor.”[1] In a previous contribution to The Occidental Quarterly, I dealt with the latter; here I will do some “howling” about the former. According to what until recently has passed as conventional wisdom for the liberal establishment, America in the late 1940s and early 1950s was gripped by a terrible Red scare, a period of anti-Communist hysteria and witch hunts. Malicious “red-baiters” slandered innocent liberals as Communists in order to destroy the reforms of the New Deal and impede peace with the Soviet Union. At most, some of the more “anti-Communist” liberals would concede that there may have been a few Communist subversives, but nothing to justify the terrible anti-Communist overreaction, above all the antics of the demagogic Joe McCarthy. From the 1960s through the 1980s, one of the strongest taboos in American political discourse was the subject of Soviet influence within the United States.

During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.

From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism.

Franklin Roosevelt’s diplomatic recognition of the Soviet Union in 1933 provided the Soviets with their first opportunity for effective penetration of the U.S. government. With diplomatic recognition, Soviet intelligence could function under legal cover through its embassy and consulates. The liberal New Deal agencies provided a fertile field for the recruitment of Soviet spies. Many of those who staffed these agencies sympathized with the government planning of the Soviet “experiment” and with Soviet opposition to fascism. This sympathy for Communism increased during World War II, when the Soviets could be seen as comrades-in-arms. That the Soviet Union was combating the great evil of Nazism has often been used to explain (and to justify) the disproportionate number of subversives of Jewish ethnicity.

Soviet intelligence benefited immensely from the support of the Communist Party of the United States, many of whose members acted as agents. Thus during the 1930s and 1940s, Communist subversives, under direct Soviet control, came to permeate key agencies of the federal government: the Treasury and State departments, the Office of Strategic Services (forerunner to the CIA), and even the White House itself.

Soviet intelligence consisted of three separate organizations: the KGB (NKVD or NKGB—the leading state security organ),[2] the GRU (military intelligence), and the U.S. Communist Party (technically, the Communist Party of the United States of America, or CPUSA), which was supervised by the Comintern (the Communist International, run by Stalin). The KGB and GRU ran parallel “legal” and “illegal” intelligence networks in the United States. “Legal” networks were run by intelligence officers working under legal, usually diplomatic, cover in “residencies” located clandestinely in Soviet diplomatic missions and other official organizations. “Illegal” networks, in contrast, were run by Soviet intelligence officers who used false identities and had no apparent connection to Soviet organizations.

President Roosevelt was oblivious to the danger of Soviet subversion. In 1939, Adolf A. Berle, Roosevelt’s assistant secretary of state and adviser on internal security, presented the President with a list of leading Soviet agents in the United States, including Alger Hiss and Harry Dexter White, after receiving this information from ex-Communist spy Whittaker Chambers. Roosevelt simply laughed this off as ridiculous....
______________________________________
During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration.
Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person.
_______________________________
And HERE WE ARE TODAY.......

 

[SeaMajor7]

They don't know what they're talking about.

BULLSHIT!!!!

 

[SeaMajor7]

"We're trained Marxists."
~ BLM

 

[Curried Goats]

"We're trained Marxists."
~ BLM

You Frailures cry so fucking much as if Marxists and communists have no right to political and economic advocacy. Maybe Marxists are taking your country but they're doing it democratically so tough shit for you.

 

[SeaMajor7]

You Frailures cry so fucking much as if Marxists and communists have no right to political and economic advocacy. Maybe Marxists are taking your country but they're doing it democratically so tough shit for you.

And there it is.
At least this moron is honest about it.
You know, bingo boi, there is ONE THING missing from your neo-Marxist coup attempt to make this country communist. Care to take a guess at what that is?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No, that was peaceful.

 

[Curried Goats]

And there it is.
At least this moron is honest about it.
You know, bingo boi, there is ONE THING missing from your neo-Marxist coup attempt to make this country communist. Care to take a guess at what that is?

When you get out voted that's a peaceful coup. That's democracy. Feel free to keep crying about it.

 

[SeaMajor7]

When you get out voted that's a peaceful coup. That's democracy. Feel free to keep crying about it.

No, I'm not referring to the stolen election.
Try again.

 

[Curried Goats]

No, I'm not referring to the stolen election.
Try again.

I don't really care what you're being coy about or how you feel about being a sore loser. Keep it to yourself or don't you frail Simp, I'll be fine either way.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I don't really care what you're being coy about or how you feel about being a sore loser. Keep it to yourself or don't you frail Simp, I'll be fine either way.

You'll be fine? Trotsky thought he was all in with the Stalinist Struggle too, until he got the

 

[The Duke]

They don't know what they're talking about. They don't know what communism is. But in their world, they don't need to.

Then, when they venture out into Normal World, they look like a poor excuse for Archie Bunker.

You know that's a lie, right Mac? There's thousands here that actually escaped Communism to get to the US.
Here in the US, we don't need the government to provide things for us, we just need it to get the hell out of our way.

You Frailures cry so fucking much as if Marxists and communists have no right to political and economic advocacy. Maybe Marxists are taking your country but they're doing it democratically so tough shit for you.