Trig Palin is Actually Sarah's Grandson

[Orange_Juice]

Gosh, it would be so terrible if this story was true.....

 

[Gunny]

You'd let your kid off the hook by pretending the child was yours? That makes me sad. I think parents these days are way to apt to let little Johnny and little Betty shirk their responsibility to rectify their own mistakes.

Perhaps I am misreading your post.

Perhaps. My comment was to choosing to keep the child, not to pretending it's mine. Circumstances would dictate whether or not she was allowed to shirk her responsibilities. However, with her responsibilities goes her rights and if I were forced to raise her child as mine I would ensure she legally had none.

Otherwise, I would provide the home and the resources and expect HER to be the child's parent.

 

[Gunny]

Don't feel bad about starting the thread. It's on every forum I've visited today, and after reading a lot of comments on this issue it seems all the Republicans are pissed off that anyone would question such a thing. They think McCain picked some sort of Saint to be VP.

After all the BS I've read about Obama I'd say what goes around comes around.

Interestingly enough, whether the BS be about Obama or Palin or Palin or McCain, and despite opposing political beliefs, it's the mindset you display in your post I've quoted that perpetuates this shit. To the point of acting as if it's justified "because so-n-so does it."

 

[Gunny]

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You are trying to make a point? My ex went to PT in the Marines until she was about 7-8 months pregnant, in 29 Palms, CA, where you need a roadgrader to find level ground.

I don't see anything extraordinary about a claim like that. It's more about what you're accustomed to and what you believe you can do.

 

[Gunny]

Isn't this what God invented DNA for? Test the baby. Same with the Edwards spawn. Public has a right to know.

I disagree. It's none of the public's business in either case.

 

[Gunny]

I'm sure she'll get right on that, probably during the Republican Convention, eh?

Or, she could tell the truth.


I think she'll pick #2.

Since when did telling the truth count for anything?

 

[Gunny]

the hypocrisy of that statement is absolutely hysterical.

There's no hypocrisy. Lame attempt at dflection. No real argument, huh?

 

[Gunny]

Gosh, it would be so terrible if this story was true.....

It would be. If the story was true, I would have to spend who knows how much time cleaning up your spew all over this board of posting the same damned bullshit a dozen or so times.

 

[Caligirl]

And that would be HER fault, right? She is the one that made society overly-judgmental about such BS, right?

In this scenario, perhaps she was being a good Mom and trying to protect her children more than she is concerned with her image? Memories are long and forgiveness hard to come by-to-nonexistent in backwater towns.

However, Id' say that backwater town being the case, IF the story was true, everyone in town would know and someone would have corroborated it by now.

I suppose she could have made the decision for her daughter if her daughter asked her to, which would shift the picture from image-oriented to protective of her daughter. I did assume that she would have made the decision herself.

The story is ridiculous.

Still, I don't agree with your other post where you say that liberals can fuck anything that doesn't move fast enough but that conservatives can only have sex MS in the bedroom. From my perspective both sides are more concerned with honesty (I did not have sex with that woman, or, in this stupid story, The baby is mine not my daughter's) than with whose dick goes where.

 

[Orange_Juice]

Wow!
Is this her first or second child? This family is a mess!

To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant | Reuters


ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us," the Palins' statement said.

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support," the Palins said.

 

[Glori.B]

Gosh, it would be so terrible if this story was true.....

Palin Baby Shocker!
Posted August 31, 2008 | 03:29 PM (EST)

OMG. You clicked looking for more scandalous details about Sarah Palin's possible baby mama drama? How am I going to continue writing now that I lost all respect for you? Ok, fine, I am a hypocrite. I was fascinated for a hot second by the story that OMG U R NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS!!!!111 Do We Know Who the Momma Is? But really the whole thing is embarrassingly like an IM conversation:

librulgirl44: omfg, you are not going to believe this!
gopsux4reals: hit me.
librulgirl44: Ok, you know that crazy Christian woman from Alaska?
gopsux4reals: o, right, the haha! women must be dumb and gullible chick, hi I'm John McCain and I approved this condescending msg, oops I stared at her ass AGAIN?
librulgirl44: yep.
gopsux4reals: ok.
librulgirl44: dude, she might not even have given birth to her latest womb-booger.
gopsux4reals: um, ok.
librulgirl44: she did all this weird stuff and she didn't look pregnant! And her daughter has a possible baby bump in a picture from 2007.
gopsux4reals: Well, isn't he the runt of the litter anyway? How can we judge based on some skimpy photographic evidence and weird anecdotes? On second thought...this is awesome!
librulgirl44: I know!
gopsux4reals: I mean we might possibly get dragged into an insane psycho drama that if true will only endear Palin to millions of lunatic Christian conservatives & even some soccer moms and if false would make the Bush National Guard fiasco look like nothing, but heck, let's run with it!
librulgirl44: lollercaust! awesome!

Guys, its a loser. Can we not do this? Let's keep in mind that the person getting picked on here is not the Governor, who signed up for all this crap, but her seventeen year-old daughter. It 'taint right.

When we combat conservatives on the basis of their awful ideas or their unprecedented record of failure over the last eight years, we win. When we get dragged into culture wars and let the lizard brain take over, we are playing on conservative turf and they exploit home-field advantage in a way we can only dream of. Less sexy but more important: sex education and attitudes on contraception in extreme fundamentalist households.

There are plenty of great reasons to oppose John McCain and Sarah Palin. McCain has an Ahab like addiction to winning the lost war and Palin is a person who is so intellectually incurious that she said she hadn't thought much about the Iraq War, despite her son being shipped off there soon. PLUS a very serious question about judgment in Josh Marshall's as ever brilliant examination of Palin's abuse of power in brotherinlawgate.

So per the also brilliant Al Giordano's Rules for Bloggicals:

YES: Iraq, economy, infrastructure, world reputation and standing. (Psst: we win on these.)

NO: Making risky decisions about pregnancy, possible crazy Christian conservative gothic drama straight out of Desperate Housewives. (Psst: These...not so much.)

Any questions?

Update: Thanks to the comments, I know that Lee Stranahan has already more effectively expressed his distaste with this story. Read his take if you haven't.

Update #2: Andrew Sullivan thinks the story is worth investigating, and that gives me pause. But I still insist that it should be handled delicately.

Update #3: Sullivan backs down, Kos diary publishes images that seem to quash any further speculation, and, as predictable as clockwork, the headline on Drudge is "Lefty Bloggers Go After Palin's 16 year old Daughter..."

Bart Motes: Palin Baby Shocker!

 

[Glori.B]

Palin Had Her Daughter's Baby by John McCain!
The Spoof : Palin Had Her Daughter's Baby by John McCain! funny satire story

 

[Orange_Juice]

Yup, and that baby isn't John Edward's either, lol

 

[random3434]

Since when did telling the truth count for anything?

In my world it counts for a lot.

 

[DiveCon]

Wow!
Is this her first or second child? This family is a mess!

To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant | Reuters


ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us," the Palins' statement said.

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support," the Palins said.

how is it a mess?
you mean normal families dont face this kind of issue?

 

[Dr Grump]

how is it a mess?
you mean normal families dont face this kind of issue?

Families in political power don't go around preaching to the masses that creationism and evolution should both be taught in school, and that abstinance only should be the way to go, then have their own teenage child get knocked up. Sort out your own house before preaching to others. Puts your credibility up the wazoo.

 

[Ninja]

Puts your credibility up the wazoo.

Maybe with New Zealanders who have rotten Kiwi mush for brains.

Not with the intelligent American electorate that has a highly nuanced grasp of politics and knows what it does/doesn't like in political candidates.

 

[DiveCon]

Families in political power don't go around preaching to the masses that creationism and evolution should both be taught in school, and that abstinance only should be the way to go, then have their own teenage child get knocked up. Sort out your own house before preaching to others. Puts your credibility up the wazoo.

what an asinine thing to say

 

[SFC_TMC915]

Whether you're a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, moderate, liberal or conservative, until the facts are put forth from a reputable source, aren't we just spinning our wheels even discussing this issue?

 

[DiveCon]

Whether you're a Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, moderate, liberal or conservative, until the facts are put forth from a reputable source, aren't we just spinning our wheels even discussing this issue?

actually, this issue is effectively dead to all but the fringe
since Sarah Palin had her child 4 months ago and her daughter is 5 months pregnant NOW kinda kills this slime attempt

now if these fringe idiots would just listen to their own candidate and leave the family alone

i aplaud Obama's denouncement of this crap