Time to Deport All Palestinians From Israel Who Don't Swear Allegiance

[Phoenall]

Be careful who you call a Palestinian. Prior to about 1968 if you called any of these arabs Palistinians, they would have spit in your face. They called themselves "Southern Syrians" for the most part of the last 700 years of Ottoman rule.. At least all that knew called themselves that.

Since they were already calling themselves the people of Palestine in 1922, you are agian proven to be full of shit as usual. Why do you continue with your lies when you know I will see it and post a source and link that makes you out for the liar that you are.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
​

No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
Sir,
We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.

• 
  
  We would, therefore, submit the following observations:—

Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.
If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

You really need to learn how to read freddy

 

[MJB12741]

You never present fact. You just make up history. You have never provided any source document that supports your fantasy. You haven't a clue as to who ruled Palestine and when. You didn't even know who ruled Palestine before the Ottomans.

Yes we don't know who ruled Palestine before the Ottomans. But we sure know who ruled Israel since antiquity.

Who ruled Israel since antiquity?

Are you serious? Okay, for your education. in antiquity Israel was ruled by Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks & Romans. Isn't it wonderful how empires rose & empires fell & yet Israel still remains?

 

[montelatici]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

 

[Hollie]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

You might want to learn some history. The evictions (by way of people being dead), of various populations that have lived in the area were often a function of the Islamist conquests across the area. One of those was in 636, not long after the death of islam's inventor: Muhammud (swish).

 

[montelatici]

There was no eviction, in fact, if you would do a little research you too would conclude that the Pact of Umar would not have been needed if the Christians had been evicted. Do you enjoy making a fool of yourself?

 

[Coyote]

I find it interesting that someone is willing to expel thousands of innocent native people into an area torn by extremist conflicts because they won't "swear allegience" to a state that is occupying their territory.

 

[Roudy]

There were no Pal'istanians to inhabit this mythical Palestine you allude to.

There were invading / colonizing Turks followed later by invading / land grabbing Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese squatters but they were not Pal'istanians. It was not until 1967 that Yassir "welfare fraud" Arafat coined the term Pal'istanian as a national identity.

Fantasy and Science Fiction suits you.

The fantasy and science fiction would be to promote the idea of "no Jews in Israel". Ha ha ha.

Of course there were no Jews in Palestine before the Arab conquest except for a short period when the Jews and Persians attacked Palestine and massacred the Christians.

"The Persian invasion of 614 led by Heraclius was welcomed and aided by the Jews, who were inspired by messianic hopes of deliverance. In gratitude for their help, they were granted the administration of Jerusalem, an interlude which lasted about three years. Subsequently, the Byzantine army regained the city (629) and again expelled its Jewish population."



Byzantine Rule (313-636) | Jewish Virtual Library

So if we're quoting that site let me enlighten you a little:

Myths & Facts: Jerusalem (Chapter 15) | Jewish Virtual Library

MYTH
“Jerusalem is an Arab City.”

FACT
Jews have been living in Jerusalem continuously for three millennia. They have constituted the largest single group of inhabitants there since the 1840’s. Jerusalem contains the Western Wall of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism.

Jerusalem was never the capital of any Arab entity. In fact, it was a backwater for most of Arab history, and never served as a provincial capital under Muslim rule. While the entirety of Jerusalem is holy to Jews, Muslims only revere one site - the Al Aksa Mosque. “To a Muslim,” observed British writer Christopher Sykes, “there is a profound difference between Jerusalem and Mecca or Medina. The latter are holy places containing holy sites.” 1

What does that have to do with the fact that even a Hasbara site confirms that there were no Jews in Palestine when it was ruled by Christians?

Ha ha ha. And yet the same Hasbara site says Jews haven't left Jerusalem for over 2000 years. But you didn't cut and paste that little tidbit, did ya? Ha ha ha. Hilarious yet pathetic, juvenile behavior.

 

[Roudy]

Be careful who you call a Palestinian. Prior to about 1968 if you called any of these arabs Palistinians, they would have spit in your face. They called themselves "Southern Syrians" for the most part of the last 700 years of Ottoman rule.. At least all that knew called themselves that.

Since they were already calling themselves the people of Palestine in 1922, you are agian proven to be full of shit as usual. Why do you continue with your lies when you know I will see it and post a source and link that makes you out for the liar that you are.

"PALESTINE.
CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB
DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
​

No. 1.
The Palestine Arab Delegation to the Secretary of State for the Colonies.


HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.
Sir,
We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.

• 
  
  We would, therefore, submit the following observations:—

Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable.
If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/48A7E5584EE1403485256CD8006C3FBE

Oh no not this shit again. For the thousandth time the people of the British mandate of Palestine, yes. Yet the same document says these same "people" which included the hoards of Arab invaders from neighboring lands never had sovereignty over the land. And for 700 years before that, they were called southern Syrians by the Ottomans. The British called it Palestine Mandate to change its name, not in reference to the people, which included Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan, dufus. Therefore they are invented people and your post is meaningless. But keep posting it another thousand times. That's all you got. Nothing.

 

[Roudy]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.

 

[Roudy]

There was no eviction, in fact, if you would do a little research you too would conclude that the Pact of Umar would not have been needed if the Christians had been evicted. Do you enjoy making a fool of yourself?

Yes because Muslims have been so nice and good to peoples of other faiths. Yeah, that's the ticket. LOL

 

[guno]

It's not as much a Muslim issue as it is an issue of a people who fled surrounding Arab nations in the past century to gain work as the Jews turned the region into the most prosperous region in the Middle East. Arabs serve in the Israeli military, police and government. Despite differences they may have, these Arabs work out their differences in a civilized behavior.

Unlike most Palestinians who glorify murdering children, both theirs and Israeli.

March those that are unwilling to swear a loyalty oath to Israel to Syria where they can live in a region more to their liking.

Ban all fundy cross groveling goy for staying more then 2 days in Israel , rip every cross off the soil of Israel

 

[Phoenall]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

Proof that they converted is needed, as many wrote at the time they pretended to convert to save their lives and the lives of their families. That is why Jewish artifacts from 70 C.E to 1900 C.E. are found in Palestine, and why the arab muslims destroy them

 

[Phoenall]

There was no eviction, in fact, if you would do a little research you too would conclude that the Pact of Umar would not have been needed if the Christians had been evicted. Do you enjoy making a fool of yourself?

COWFLOP you are just repeating islamonazi propaganda again that has no evidence to support it. From 635 C.E. the muslims have followed the laws in the koran to " KILL THE UNBELIEVERS " until only islam is left

 

[theliq]

It's not as much a Muslim issue as it is an issue of a people who fled surrounding Arab nations in the past century to gain work as the Jews turned the region into the most prosperous region in the Middle East. Arabs serve in the Israeli military, police and government. Despite differences they may have, these Arabs work out their differences in a civilized behavior.

Unlike most Palestinians who glorify murdering children, both theirs and Israeli.

March those that are unwilling to swear a loyalty oath to Israel to Syria where they can live in a region more to their liking.

When did that happen? When did all these people from surrounding Arab nations migrate to Palestine? Do you have anything from official reports that supports your claim. This what the official reports all conclude:

Nearly all the migrants to Palestine were Jews from Europe.

"UNITED
NATIONS
A

• 
  General Assembly

A/364
3 September 1947

(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year. The flow has not been regular, however, being fairly high in 1924 to 1926, falling in the next few years (there was a net emigration in 1927) and rising to even higher levels between 1933 and 1936 as a result of the Nazi persecution in Europe. Between the census year of 1931 and the year 1936, the proportion of Jews to the total population rose from 18 per cent to nearly 30 per cent.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths. "

A/364 of 3 September 1947

^^^^^^^
Same bullshit being spammed, over and over, regardless of the subject.

And now for the truth:

Despite the many invasions and programs, the Jews always maintained a presence and always kept coming back to their religious, spiritual, and cultural holy land. The land truly belongs to the Jews.

History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Byzantine period (324–638)

Jews probably constituted the majority of the population of Palestine until the 4th-century, when Constantine converted to Christianity.

Jews lived in at least forty-three Jewish communities in Palestine: twelve towns on the coast, in the Negev, and east of the Jordan, and thirty-one villages in Galilee and in the Jordan valley. The persecuted Jews of Palestine revolted twice against their Christian rulers. In the 5th century, the Western Roman Empire collapsed leading to Christian migration into Palestine and development of a Christian majority. Jews numbered 10–15% of the population. Judaism was the only non-Christian religion tolerated, but there were bans on Jews building new places of worship, holding public office or owning slaves. There were also two Samaritan revolts in this period.[65]

In 438, The Empress Eudocia removed the ban on Jews' praying at the Temple site and the heads of the Community in Galilee issued a call "to the great and mighty people of the Jews": "Know that the end of the exile of our people has come"!

In about 450, the Jerusalem Talmud was completed.

According to Procopius, in 533 Byzantine general Belisarius took the treasures of the Jewish temple from Vandals who had taken them from Rome.

In 611, Sassanid Persia invaded the Byzantine Empire. In 613, a Jewish revolt against the Byzantine Empire joined forces with these Persian invaders to capture Jerusalem in 614. The Jews gained autonomy in Jerusalem, until in 617 when the Persians betrayed agreements and withdrew their forces from the region. With return of the Byzantines in 628, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius promised to restore Jewish rights and received Jewish help in ousting the Persians with the aid of Jewish leader Benjamin of Tiberias.

Middle Ages (636–1517)

After the conquest, Jewish communities began to grow and flourish. Umar allowed and encouraged Jews to settle in Jerusalem. It was first time, after almost 500 years of oppressive Christian rule, that Jews were allowed to enter and worship freely in their holy city.

In the mid-8th-century, taking advantage of the warring Islamic factions in Palestine, a false messiah named Abu Isa Obadiah of Isfahan inspired and organised a group of 10,000 armed Jews who hoped to restore the Holy Land to the Jewish nation.

In 1039, part of the synagogue in Ramla was still in ruins, probably resulting from the earthquake of 1033. Jews also returned to Rafah and documents from 1015 and 1080 attest to a significant community there.

A large Jewish community existed in Ramle and smaller communities inhabited Hebron and the coastal cities of Acre, Caesarea, Jaffa, Ashkelon and Gaza.[citation needed]Al-Muqaddasi (985) wrote that "for the most part the assayers of corn, dyers, bankers, and tanners are Jews." Under the Islamic rule, the rights of Jews and Christians were curtailed and residence was permitted upon payment of the special tax.

Between the 7th and 11th centuries, Masoretes (Jewish scribes) in the Galilee and Jerusalem were active in compiling a system of pronunciation and grammatical guides of the Hebrew language. They authorised the division of the Jewish Tanakh, known as the Masoretic Text, which is regarded as authoritative till today.

Ottoman rule (1517–1917)

The 16th-century nevertheless saw a resurgence of Jewish life in Palestine. Palestinian rabbis were instrumental producing a universally accepted manual of Jewish law and some of the most beautiful liturgical poems. Much of this activity occurred at Safed which had become a spiritual centre, a haven for mystics. Joseph Karo's comprehensive guide to Jewish law, the Shulchan Aruch, was considered so authoritative that the variant customs of German-Polish Jewry were merely added as supplement glosses. Some of the most celebrated hymns were written at in Safed by poets such as Israel Najara andSolomon Alkabetz. The town was also a centre of Jewish mysticism, notable kabbalists included Moses Cordovero and the German-born Naphtali Hertz ben Jacob Elhanan. A new method of understanding the kabbalah was developed by Palestinian mystic Isaac Luria, and espoused by his student Chaim Vital. In Safed, the Jews developed a number of branches of trade, especially in grain, spices, textiles and dyeing. In 1577, a Hebrewprinting press was established in Safed. The 8,000 or 10,000 Jews in Safed in 1555 grew to 20,000 or 30,000 by the end of the century.

Old Yishuv
Jewish life in the Land of Israel

Key events

• Aliya of Nachmanides (1267)
• Hebron and Safed massacres (1517)
• Revival of Tiberias (1563)
• Sack of Tiberias (1660)
• Hebron massacre (1834)
• Safed attack (1838)
• Jerusalem expansion
• Petach Tikva founded (1878)

Key figures

• Ishtori Haparchi (d. 1313)
• Joseph Saragossi (d. 1507)
• Obadiah MiBartenura (d. 1515)
• Levi ibn Habib (d. 1545)
• Jacob Berab (d. 1546)
• Joseph Nasi (d. 1579)
• Moses Galante (d. 1689)
• Moses ibn Habib (d. 1696)
• Yehuda he-Hasid (d. 1700)
• Haim Abulafia (d. 1744)
• Menachem Mendel (d. 1788)
• Haim Farhi (d. 1820)
• Jacob Saphir (d. 1886)
• Haim Aharon Valero (d. 1923)

• Ramban (1267)

• Abraham Avinu (1540)

• Johanan ben Zakai (1600s)

In around 1563, Joseph Nasi secured permission from Sultan Selim II to acquire Tiberias and seven surrounding villages to create a Jewish city-state. He hoped that large numbers of Jewish refugees and Marranos would settle there, free from fear and oppression; indeed, the persecuted Jews of Cori, Italy, numbering about 200 souls, decided to emigrate to Tiberias.Nasi had the walls of the town rebuilt by 1564 and attempted to turn it into a self-sufficient textile manufacturing center by planting mulberry trees for the cultivation of silk. Nevertheless, a number of factors during the following years contributed to the plan's ultimate failure. Nasi's aunt, Doña Gracia Mendes Nasi supported ayeshiva in the town for many years until her death in 1569.

In 1567, a Yemenite scholar and Rabbi, Zechariah Dhahiri, visited Safed and wrote of his experiences in a book entitled Sefer Ha-Musar. His vivid descriptions of the town Safed and of Rabbi Joseph Karo’s yeshiva are of primary importance to historians, seeing that they are a first-hand account of these places, and the only extant account which describes the yeshiva of the great Sephardic Rabbi, Joseph Karo.[127]

In 1576, the Jewish community of Safed faced an expulsion order: 1,000 prosperous families were to be deported to Cyprus, "for the good of the said island", with another 500 the following year.[128] The order was later rescinded due to the realisation of the financial gains of Jewish rental income.[129] In 1586, the Jews of Istanbul agreed to build a fortified khan to provide a refuge for Safed's Jews against "night bandits and armed thieves."[128]

In 1569, the Radbaz moved to Jerusalem, but soon moved to Safed to escape the high taxes imposed on Jews by the authorities.

In 1610, the Yochanan ben Zakai Synagogue in Jerusalem was completed.[130] It became the main synagogue of the Sephardic Jews, the place where their chief rabbi was invested. The adjacent study hall which had been added by 1625 later became the Synagogue of Elijah the Prophet.[130]


Installation of the Chacham Bashi at the Ben Zakai Synagogue, 1893. According to legend, the synagogue stands on the site of the study hall of 1st-century sage, RabbanYochanan ben Zakai. The current building was constructed in 1610.



The Near East earthquake of 1759 destroys much of Safed killing 2000 people with 190 Jews among the dead, and also destroys Tiberias.

The disciples of the Vilna Gaon settled in the land of Israel almost a decade after the arrival of two of his pupils, R. Hayim of Vilna and R. Israel ben Samuel of Shklov. In all there were three groups of the Gaon's students which emigrated to the land of Israel. They formed the basis of the Ashkenazi communities of Jerusalem and Safed, setting up what was known as the Kollel Perushim. Their arrival encouraged an Ashkenazi revival in Jerusalem, whose Jewish community until this time was mostly Sephardi. Many of the descendants of the disciples became leading figures in modern Israeli society. The Gaon himself also set forth with his pupils to the Land, but for an unknown reason he turned back and returned to Vilna where he died soon after.

During the Peasants' Revolt under Muhammad Ali of Egypt's occupation, Jews were targeted in the 1834 looting of Safed and the 1834 Hebron massacre. By 1844,some sources report that Jews had become the largest population group in Jerusalem and by 1890 an absolute majority in the city.

When I read such errant NONSENSE and LIES Roudy,I can only believe you need medical help.............at the Bullshit Mental Care Hospice.....really Roudy,one moment I think you are rational only to be dumbfounded by your Mental Collapse......Let my help you my Jewish friend.......steve

 

[montelatici]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.

The people now of the Christian and Muslim faiths in Palestine are the descendants of the native people that adopted various languages and adopted and/or converted to various religions over the centuries.

Palestine is no different than any other place in the world from that standpoint.

For example, the Algerians are still predominately Amazighs (Berbers) ethnically though they call themselves Arabs and now mostly speak Arabic and converted from Christianity to Islam. The Phoenician, Roman, Visigoth, Arabian, Ottoman and French invasions did not change the ethnicity of the native inhabitants. The invaders were ruling elites (though the French tried their hand at settler colonialism, they failed in the end).

 

[Roudy]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.

The people now of the Christian and Muslim faiths in Palestine are the descendants of the native people that adopted various languages and adopted and/or converted to various religions over the centuries.

Palestine is no different than any other place in the world from that standpoint.

For example, the Algerians are still predominately Amazighs (Berbers) ethnically though they call themselves Arabs and now mostly speak Arabic and converted from Christianity to Islam. The Phoenician, Roman, Visigoth, Arabian, Ottoman and French invasions did not change the ethnicity of the native inhabitants. The invaders were ruling elites (though the French tried their hand at settler colonialism, they failed in the end).

No actually you're lying as usual because no matter what you say, the fact that today's Jews are indeed decadents of the ancient Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence and at times flourished in the Jewish holy land over the millennia, destroys your entire antisemitic IslamoNazi argument. So you keep flaling desperately with this repetive bullshit propaganda.

It's all meaningless, Achmed, the Jews are there and in control of their ancestral and religious homeland. And it's never going to change, ever, period.

 

[montelatici]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.

The people now of the Christian and Muslim faiths in Palestine are the descendants of the native people that adopted various languages and adopted and/or converted to various religions over the centuries.

Palestine is no different than any other place in the world from that standpoint.

For example, the Algerians are still predominately Amazighs (Berbers) ethnically though they call themselves Arabs and now mostly speak Arabic and converted from Christianity to Islam. The Phoenician, Roman, Visigoth, Arabian, Ottoman and French invasions did not change the ethnicity of the native inhabitants. The invaders were ruling elites (though the French tried their hand at settler colonialism, they failed in the end).

No actually you're lying as usual because no matter what you say, the fact that today's Jews are indeed decadents of the ancient Jews, and that Jews maintained a presence and at times flourished in the Jewish holy land over the millennia, destroys your entire antisemitic IslamoNazi argument. So you keep flaling desperately with this repetive bullshit propaganda.

It's all meaningless, Achmed, the Jews are there and in control of their ancestral and religious homeland. And it's never going to change, ever, period.

It's not what I say, it is historical fact.

Today's Palestinians are the descendants of the people that have always lived in Palestine.

There is nothing unusual about this fact, it is the same the world over. the native people do not change much as a result of invasions, as the invaders become ruling elites for the most part.

If that were not the case, Russians and most Central Europeans would be Mongols.

Logic is not your forte', is it.

 

[Hollie]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.

The people now of the Christian and Muslim faiths in Palestine are the descendants of the native people that adopted various languages and adopted and/or converted to various religions over the centuries.

Palestine is no different than any other place in the world from that standpoint.

For example, the Algerians are still predominately Amazighs (Berbers) ethnically though they call themselves Arabs and now mostly speak Arabic and converted from Christianity to Islam. The Phoenician, Roman, Visigoth, Arabian, Ottoman and French invasions did not change the ethnicity of the native inhabitants. The invaders were ruling elites (though the French tried their hand at settler colonialism, they failed in the end).

You continue to be befuddled. The invading / colonizing Turks were not native 'Pal'istanians. "Turk" suggests they were from somewhere else. Can you guess where? Raise your hand if you have an answer.

Similarly, Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese invaders / squatters would not be native to Pal'istan. Can you guess why? Remember, raise your hand if you have an answer.

 

[montelatici]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.

The people now of the Christian and Muslim faiths in Palestine are the descendants of the native people that adopted various languages and adopted and/or converted to various religions over the centuries.

Palestine is no different than any other place in the world from that standpoint.

For example, the Algerians are still predominately Amazighs (Berbers) ethnically though they call themselves Arabs and now mostly speak Arabic and converted from Christianity to Islam. The Phoenician, Roman, Visigoth, Arabian, Ottoman and French invasions did not change the ethnicity of the native inhabitants. The invaders were ruling elites (though the French tried their hand at settler colonialism, they failed in the end).

You continue to be befuddled. The invading / colonizing Turks were not native 'Pal'istanians. "Turk" suggests they were from somewhere else. Can you guess where? Raise your hand if you have an answer.

Similarly, Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese invaders / squatters would not be native to Pal'istan. Can you guess why? Remember, raise your hand if you have an answer.

There were no settler colonists Turks, there were no settler colonist Egyptians, there were no settler colonist Syrians and there were no settler colonist Lebanese. The only settler colonists were the Zionist Jews.

The Palestinians are the native people of Palestine, the Jews came from Europe and elsewhere outside of Palestine, full stop.

That's just historical fact.

Posting fantasy history does not make the fantasy any more true. But you do provide entertainment.

 

[Hollie]

Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.

There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.

The people now of the Christian and Muslim faiths in Palestine are the descendants of the native people that adopted various languages and adopted and/or converted to various religions over the centuries.

Palestine is no different than any other place in the world from that standpoint.

For example, the Algerians are still predominately Amazighs (Berbers) ethnically though they call themselves Arabs and now mostly speak Arabic and converted from Christianity to Islam. The Phoenician, Roman, Visigoth, Arabian, Ottoman and French invasions did not change the ethnicity of the native inhabitants. The invaders were ruling elites (though the French tried their hand at settler colonialism, they failed in the end).

You continue to be befuddled. The invading / colonizing Turks were not native 'Pal'istanians. "Turk" suggests they were from somewhere else. Can you guess where? Raise your hand if you have an answer.

Similarly, Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese invaders / squatters would not be native to Pal'istan. Can you guess why? Remember, raise your hand if you have an answer.

There were no settler colonists Turks, there were no settler colonist Egyptians, there were no settler colonist Syrians and there were no settler colonist Lebanese. The only settler colonists were the Zionist Jews.

The Palestinians are the native people of Palestine, the Jews came from Europe and elsewhere outside of Palestine, full stop.

That's just historical fact.

Posting fantasy history does not make the fantasy any more true. But you do provide entertainment.

Your "hysterical" facts are a bit removed from the historical facts you are ignorant of. The invading / colonizing Turks came from somewhere. Where do you think that somewhere could be?

Similarly, the colonizing / squatting Egyptians, Syrians and Lebanese came from where?

I'll remind you that hysterical is different than historical. Can you see that those terms are spelled differently? If you can, raise your hand so we can see you're making some middling progress.