This used to be a great Republic.

[Charles_Main]

Every time the wife plays Pink's Fun House. I can not help but think of the Framers of the Constitution compared to the Congresses we have today.

"This used to be a fun house, but now it's full of Evil Clowns"

Says it all.

lol

 

[Old Rocks]

But the Tea Party too shall pass.

 

[MarcusHaired]

Does anyone have any songs other than these? I remember Republic used to have this song they did that was acoustic that Ryan did. It had that same emo feeling like one of their songs, Fool, and had a part that went "not far to go, Im not lost" Any other songs they did before they changed their name and or when Ryan Tedder (The lead singer) was solo, would be great!

 

[Douger]

It musta been neat back then. I'm pushing 60 and all I can ever remember it being is a bullshit clusterfuck based on false history and Jew worship.

 

[editec]

Between the world development over which we have not power (the development of the rest of the world post WWII, and the advancement of technology making more and more of us redundant) and the outright abandonment and betrayal of the American middle class by the Masters, this is, indeed not the Republic it once was.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Between the world development over which we have not power (the development of the rest of the world post WWII, and the advancement of technology making more and more of us redundant) and the outright abandonment and betrayal of the American middle class by the Masters, this is, indeed not the Republic it once was.

Should any of us expect that or even wish for it?

Times change. The Republic needs to change.

Term limits for Congress?

We're still pretty young as a republic and 'America' is still the best idea for a crossroads of the world market place. Where else on the planet do Protestants and Catholics work and play along side Shiites, Sunnis and Hindus in what can only be described as 'harmony' when compared to the homelands of each?

Just by surviving the first 2 waves of wealth consolidation in this republic as a democracy is reason for great hope in our economy of the future. Surviving as a democracy into the age of The Internet pretty much guarantees prosperity going forward.

Once we adopt some sort of term limits for congress, the upper middle class will take over from the ruling elite and they know both the value of profit in exchange for risk as well as the value of a working class market with a few coins in their pockets.

Keep buying stock in the companies you do business with.

 

[midcan5]

If a person sees America's congress in a Pink song, Carlin must be right! Maybe Wisconsin will turn it around?

 

[William Joyce]

It musta been neat back then. I'm pushing 60 and all I can ever remember it being is a bullshit clusterfuck based on false history and Jew worship.

pretty much sums it up

 

[Charles_Main]

This post want not meant as an attack on Either party more than the other by the Way.

They are all equally Evil Clowns.

Im Gonna start the Count down and Burn this sucker down, down, down!

 

[whitehall]

But the Tea Party too shall pass.

Why does the left hate the Tea Party so much? Disappointmnt about losing the election? Tea Party activists look like choirboys compared to the rabble that's disrupting the Wisconsin government. A democrat congressman, perhaps thinking of the good ol days when liberals burned the Flag in the street, recommended that the unions "get bloody". You know that is code for violent demonstrations. Tea Party people put pressure on republicans. The left should love them or at least ignore them but left has a overwhelming need to hate, it's the only thing that keeps them going.

 

[Care4all]

i would choose no where else to live or be a citizen of....even with all of our faults, i say we are still the best Nation in the world...

 

[AVG-JOE]

This post want not meant as an attack on Either party more than the other by the Way.

They are all equally Evil Clowns.

Im Gonna start the Count down and Burn this sucker down, down, down!

I'm hoping we can get through this wave of consolidation and reform without loosing too much infrastructure, but you're right - evil clowns in blue / evil clowns in red.

 

[editec]

Between the world development over which we have not power (the development of the rest of the world post WWII, and the advancement of technology making more and more of us redundant) and the outright abandonment and betrayal of the American middle class by the Masters, this is, indeed not the Republic it once was.

Should any of us expect that or even wish for it?

Times change. The Republic needs to change.

Agreed.

I'd go so far as to say the whole damned social contract must change.

Term limits for Congress?

Maybe.

We're still pretty young as a republic and 'America' is still the best idea for a crossroads of the world market place. Where else on the planet do Protestants and Catholics work and play along side Shiites, Sunnis and Hindus in what can only be described as 'harmony' when compared to the homelands of each?

Just by surviving the first 2 waves of wealth consolidation in this republic as a democracy is reason for great hope in our economy of the future. Surviving as a democracy into the age of The Internet pretty much guarantees prosperity going forward.

Once we adopt some sort of term limits for congress, the upper middle class will take over from the ruling elite and they know both the value of profit in exchange for risk as well as the value of a working class market with a few coins in their pockets.

Keep buying stock in the companies you do business with.

You have greater faith in market forces keeping this nation a democratic republic than I do, that's obvious.

I think we're already a corporatracy and calling what we are now a democratic republic is largely a ruse.

 

[Old Rocks]

We went through this in the Girlded Age. We are going through it again. And in the end, there will have to be major re-distribution of wealth, or we will lose the democratic part of the democratic republic.

 

[AVG-JOE]

It's a pendulum swinging through history - them that has concentrate and consolidate wealth, survival of the most fit style until them that has not say "Fuck you!"

I'm excited because we're several years into the beginning of the end for a consolidation cycle that has seen at least as much activity as the events leading up to The World Wars, and very little infrastructure has been torn down thus far.

Besides, life is cool. I am certainly no higher than 'lower middle class' in the cast system of 21st century America and life is cool.

If I want toast I go to a pleasant building and trade money for bread and a toaster and I take it home and have my toast - and all WELL within the means afforded to my lot in life. I have the means to travel often locally and if my presence were required in Johannesburg I could be there in 48 hours.

What idiot in any century leading up to ours wouldn't trade his life for mine? I'll bet even King Louie would live in a 21st century American suburb if he could trade a 16th century kings life for an I-Phone and air conditioning.

Humanity has two big things going for it - a huge variety of organized endeavors for evolution to work with and a LOT cool reasons for peace.

 

[psikeyhackr]

It was never what we were told it was.

It is just a question of how cynical you have been all along. The trouble with cynicism is that the more cynical you are the more likely you are to find stuff to cause you to be cynical. Ignorance is bliss because it helps maintain delusions.

The trouble is that now the stupidity is getting ridiculously obvious.

psik

 

[trobinett]

Between the world development over which we have not power (the development of the rest of the world post WWII, and the advancement of technology making more and more of us redundant) and the outright abandonment and betrayal of the American middle class by the Masters, this is, indeed not the Republic it once was.

First of all, NOTHING is as it once was, not unless you want to freeze dry it.

Second, no one should be surprised at the way the middle class has been hammered. It became a threat , and had to be put in its place.

Would you be so kind as to explain what you mean by,"the advancement of technology making more and more of us redundant".

 

[whitehall]

"Hope and Change"or Hope for Change? Nobody is fooled by these fakers who apparently loved the last two years and now want to do away with both political parties. The Tea Party is trying to change the system from within and trying to make representatives more responsible to the will of their consituency but the left hates them. They want change but they don't want disturb the socialist status-quo. It's trendy for todays ignorant kids who think they know it all to condemn both political parties. Left wingers used to call for revolution while they condemned the entire system. Maybe we are making progress even within the ignorant counter-establishment..

 

[Charles_Main]

We went through this in the Girlded Age. We are going through it again. And in the end, there will have to be major re-distribution of wealth, or we will lose the democratic part of the democratic republic.

News flash. For the last 2 years we had a congress that ignored the will of the people and passed laws more than 50% of us did not want.

We lost the Democratic part a long time ago.

 

[Greenbeard]

Every time the wife plays Pink's Fun House. I can not help but think of the Framers of the Constitution compared to the Congresses we have today.

News flash. For the last 2 years we had a congress that ignored the will of the people and passed laws more than 50% of us did not want.

We lost the Democratic part a long time ago.

I have to ask: are you sure you're familiar with how things worked around the time of the founding of the republic?