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So many Walmart shoppers bumbling around speaking Spanish pretending they are still in Mexico. Mexicans and their handlers are sooo good at ignoring English and Americans, probably why we Americans are so antagonized and angry at "Hispanic" immigrants, think?Yes it is.....And being that illegal aliens won't learn English.....
That's not true.
So many Walmart shoppers bumbling around speaking Spanish pretending they are still in Mexico. Mexicans and their handlers are sooo good at ignoring English and Americans, probably why we Americans are so antagonized and angry at "Hispanic" immigrants, think?Yes it is.....And being that illegal aliens won't learn English.....
That's not true.
So many Walmart shoppers bumbling around ...Yes it is.....And being that illegal aliens won't learn English.....
That's not true.
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So many Walmart shoppers ....... speaking Spanish pretending they are still in Mexico. .....
... we Americans are so antagonized and angry at "Hispanic" immigrants,
... Plenty of immigrants from Europe learned English and acclimated, they even payed lawyers and various fees to get in here, too......
In another thread someone actually made this (false) claim in one of those "immigrants used to be good, but now they scare me" posts.
Are there still people out there who even think such an approach would be a good idea?
My mother's great grandmother thought it was a good idea.
....
Probably not.
In another thread someone actually made this (false) claim in one of those "immigrants used to be good, but now they scare me" posts.
Are there still people out there who even think such an approach would be a good idea?
My mother's great grandmother thought it was a good idea.
....
Probably not.
Again, I'm not following. I assure you it was the case that when my mother's family arrived in America no so long ago, the matriarch decided everyone would assimilate by not speaking German and by joining the local Episcopalian church despite it not being the religion on which they were raised. I heard this directly from the people that where there.
Why are you not believing this?
There were those who sought assimilation and invested heavily in their families and worked for success to achieve the American Dream. The welfare state ushered in by LBJ's Great Society brought in another "class" of immigrants who figured there was free stuff to be had that their own countries could not offer.Again, I'm not following. I assure you it was the case that when my mother's family arrived in America no so long ago, the matriarch decided everyone would assimilate by not speaking German and by joining the local Episcopalian church despite it not being the religion on which they were raised. I heard this directly from the people that where there.
Why are you not believing this?
There were those who sought assimilation and invested heavily in their families and worked for success to achieve the American Dream. .....Again, I'm not following. I assure you it was the case that when my mother's family arrived in America no so long ago, the matriarch decided everyone would assimilate by not speaking German and by joining the local Episcopalian church despite it not being the religion on which they were raised. I heard this directly from the people that where there.
Why are you not believing this?
In another thread someone actually made this (false) claim in one of those "immigrants used to be good, but now they scare me" posts.
Are there still people out there who even think such an approach would be a good idea?
My mother's great grandmother thought it was a good idea.
....
Probably not.
Again, I'm not following. I assure you it was the case that when my mother's family arrived in America no so long ago, the matriarch decided everyone would assimilate by not speaking German and by joining the local Episcopalian church despite it not being the religion on which they were raised. I heard this directly from the people that where there.
Why are you not believing this?
Because it's a myth.
Bullshit. My mother was FORBIDDEN to learn Portuguese. Her father grew up with English, her grandparents learned English.They sure as hell did. .....
Nope. Some few anomalous cases aside, the fairy tale of "you shall not speak Italian in this house!" from parents who spoke only Italian themselves (for example) did not - of course - happen. The inevitable success of the children or second generation in acquiring English became, over time, part of a family myth clung to by generations far removed. Young children who came here/come here eventually and inevitably learned English. The parents, depending on their age, circumstances, and prior education will eventually acquire English to an extent, but not often full fluency. If the family arrives with grandparents, they usually say "screw it" and rely on their grandchildren for interpretation. By a second generation, fluency is almost always achieved (then as now), and by the third most speak English only at home as a matter of course.
My immigrant wife speaks fluent English, mostly notable for NOT having any New England accent. Her father speake equally-fluent English, though with a notable accent. Her best friend immigrated as an adult and speaks fluent, slightly-accented English. Care to jam your OTHER foot in your mouth?Agreed...adult immigrants speaking homeland language...little English...2nd gen kids speak English at school and in the street...but aren't really fluent in either language...3rd Gen English only...may not be able to communicate well with grandparents....the ones whose parents had them speak English when they got here......
They didn't. That's a myth. The process of language acquisition and generational family dynamic throughout assimilation is essentially the same today as it has always been.
My immigrant wife speaks fluent English, mostly notable for NOT having any New England accent. Her father speake equally-fluent English, though with a notable accent. Her best friend immigrated as an adult and speaks fluent, slightly-accented English. Care to jam your OTHER foot in your mouth?Agreed...adult immigrants speaking homeland language...little English...2nd gen kids speak English at school and in the street...but aren't really fluent in either language...3rd Gen English only...may not be able to communicate well with grandparents....the ones whose parents had them speak English when they got here......
They didn't. That's a myth. The process of language acquisition and generational family dynamic throughout assimilation is essentially the same today as it has always been.
Bullshit. My mother was FORBIDDEN to learn Portuguese. .....They sure as hell did. .....
Nope. Some few anomalous cases aside, the fairy tale of "you shall not speak Italian in this house!" from parents who spoke only Italian themselves (for example) did not - of course - happen. The inevitable success of the children or second generation in acquiring English became, over time, part of a family myth clung to by generations far removed. Young children who came here/come here eventually and inevitably learned English. The parents, depending on their age, circumstances, and prior education will eventually acquire English to an extent, but not often full fluency. If the family arrives with grandparents, they usually say "screw it" and rely on their grandchildren for interpretation. By a second generation, fluency is almost always achieved (then as now), and by the third most speak English only at home as a matter of course.
In another thread someone actually made this (false) claim in one of those "immigrants used to be good, but now they scare me" posts.
Are there still people out there who even think such an approach would be a good idea?
My mother's great grandmother thought it was a good idea.
....
Probably not.
Again, I'm not following. I assure you it was the case that when my mother's family arrived in America no so long ago, the matriarch decided everyone would assimilate by not speaking German and by joining the local Episcopalian church despite it not being the religion on which they were raised. I heard this directly from the people that where there.
Why are you not believing this?
Because it's a myth.
Never pegged you for one of those that believes he knows what's in the hearts and minds of others...like Progressives tend to think. You're calling me and my family liars with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Also a tactic of social justice warriors and other meddlers. That's some company you're keeping.
I can only surmise YOU are the liar. Never thought I'd put you on ignore, but there's little else to do with lying trolls. Just can't believe you'd stoop to such a level. Guess I pegged you incorrectly. Sad.
