There Goes the Narrative

[hazlnut]

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Plurality of Voters Think There’s a Crisis at the Border

I said a few months ago Democrats were making a stand at Little Big Horn, and my prophecy has been fulfilled.

THANK YOUR FOR MAKING OUR POINT.

THE SHIT-STAIN TRUMP HAS MADE AMERICA SUCK AGAIN.

37% of voters said the country was headed in the right direction — the lowest figure since March.

When you post articles w/o reading them you look like an asshole.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump won on building the wall.

Um, no he lost by 3 million votes....

The people said "NO!"

They said it a little louder in November.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Because trump now are getting the jobs he will win the swing states even more so 2020

And gas 75 cents less a gallon

Will elect trump easily

And the senate now will
Investigate the deep state giving even more support for trump for being right on who are the crooks

 

[candycorn]

We still have camps on the border; kids are still separated from their parents. Both Sessions and Kelly said it was for deterrent purposes. Those are the facts. They are not in dispute.

Fact is you were okay with it under Obama, but now outraged it happening under Trump which proves you're a hypocrite with no credibility.

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of sharks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

Bullshit.

If you want.. you can go back to the messages in this forum from Jan 2015. There are few if any about this supposed crisis. It. Wasn’t that important then; it’s not that important now

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump won on building the wall.

Um, no he lost by 3 million votes....

The people said "NO!"

They said it a little louder in November.

Nobody gives a shit for who the freaks in 5 California counties voted for.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Fact is you were okay with it under Obama, but now outraged it happening under Trump which proves you're a hypocrite with no credibility.

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of sharks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

Bullshit.

If you want.. you can go back to the messages in this forum from Jan 2015. There are few if any about this supposed crisis. It. Wasn’t that important then; it’s not that important now

Oh hum.

Where is the Christian compassion for immigrant children?

American_Jihad

Illegal immigration

 

[Weatherman2020]

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Plurality of Voters Think There’s a Crisis at the Border

I said a few months ago Democrats were making a stand at Little Big Horn, and my prophecy has been fulfilled.

THANK YOUR FOR MAKING OUR POINT.

THE SHIT-STAIN TRUMP HAS MADE AMERICA SUCK AGAIN.

37% of voters said the country was headed in the right direction — the lowest figure since March.

When you post articles w/o reading them you look like an asshole.

Good response. Run on open borders and defunding ICE, you’ll stomp dRumpf!

 

[Dragonlady]

We still have camps on the border; kids are still separated from their parents. Both Sessions and Kelly said it was for deterrent purposes. Those are the facts. They are not in dispute.

Fact is you were okay with it under Obama, but now outraged it happening under Trump which proves you're a hypocrite with no credibility.

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Fact is you were okay with it under Obama, but now outraged it happening under Trump which proves you're a hypocrite with no credibility.

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

OMG! Trump had law breakers arrested! IMPEACH!

 

[Dragonlady]

So, Obama ‘created’ the crisis he claimed during his administration, too? And Justin Trudeau’s is ‘created’ as well?
Opinion | A new crisis at Canada’s border tests Justin Trudeau’s compassion
Lol

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Plurality of Voters Think There’s a Crisis at the Border

I said a few months ago Democrats were making a stand at Little Big Horn, and my prophecy has been fulfilled.

Yes, I'm sure that blogger post you linked to is unbiased and credible.

Yes, people think there's a crisis on the border, but MOST think the crisis is one of the President's making in order to justify his wall.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-c...wn-crisis-fewer-oppose-wall/story?id=60337670

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

We're not talking about Obama's shut down which was over funding of Obamacare. Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

No election was founght on the issue of a wall. It was part of Trump's campaign, but Trump hasn't done anything other than run his mouth with lie piled upon lie to provide a need for the wall. The election just fought on Trump;'s policies was a huge loss for Trump so Trump can't even claim that the public wants this wall. They've just told him they don't.

The Canadian border crisis is a lack of resources available to the various levels of governmnet for the unexpected numbers of people coming in from the US. Many have been sent to Toronto where there are more beds, but those beds are needed for local homeless populations in winter. The "crisis" was to find housing for those claiming asylum before local needs were totally overwhelmed. The Provinces and the cities are asking for compensation for providing housing from their limited stocks.

Neither crisis has ANYTHING to do with the crisis that Trump has manufactured on the southern border, or petulant his refusal to accept the will of the American people, who elected a Democratic House precisely to put the fiscal brakes this proligating spending President before he bankrupts the country the way he has every business he's touched over the past 30 years.

Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

NEWSFLASH: Trump won on building the wall.

The 2016 election was not fought on building a wall. The wall was just one a number of promises made, like cutting taxes for the middle class, jobs on steroids, drain the swamp, build a wall. The Wall wasn't the centre piece of his campaign, like Obamacare was in the 2012 Campaign.

Trump told the American public to treat the 2018 Midterms as a referendum on his policies, and resoundingly the American public said "No", and installed the Democratic House to hold Trump accountable.

 

[dblack]

Can you explain how you deduced that from the bar charts posted? I read that 70% percent think it is either a problem or a crisis. I think you’re wrong. Defend it!

I’ll be happy to.

Here is a screen cap from the OP:

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See where it says “crisis”? That is one of the choices. Crisis, problem or “no problem or crisis”

The criteria isn’t a problem OR crisis; the title of the chart says a plurality (a greater amount but not a majority); sees a crisis. When in reality, more people polled see either “only” a problem or no problem at all.

Right, but what you wrote is 50% think there is either NO problem or No crisis at all. And that my dear is WRONG. I will accept that you made a typo and didn’t proof before posting.

Well in the first place it was 49%, dear. In the 2nd place, the “plurality” don’t see a crisis.

Ok, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but now I realize that was undeserved. The FACT is over 70% of all voters (Democrat, Republican, independent see either a problem or a crisis. While only 12% of all voters think there is neither a crisis or problem. Where the hell did the 49% come from. Show your work so I can help you understand your mistake. It’s the only way you will learn. I know math and numbers are tough for a lot of girls, but with help you can do better.

Reading isn’t your strong suit.
The OP and the chart says a plurality sees a crisis.
Mathematics 37% + 12% do not see a crisis—49%>42%.

Hence the OP is false

If this is too complicated for you to understand; I’m not surprised.

Apparently, it is. But it's in their nature to strut around crowing about their stupidity as if it's something to be proud of.

 

[Weatherman2020]

So, Obama ‘created’ the crisis he claimed during his administration, too? And Justin Trudeau’s is ‘created’ as well?
Opinion | A new crisis at Canada’s border tests Justin Trudeau’s compassion
Lol

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Plurality of Voters Think There’s a Crisis at the Border

I said a few months ago Democrats were making a stand at Little Big Horn, and my prophecy has been fulfilled.

Yes, I'm sure that blogger post you linked to is unbiased and credible.

Yes, people think there's a crisis on the border, but MOST think the crisis is one of the President's making in order to justify his wall.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-c...wn-crisis-fewer-oppose-wall/story?id=60337670

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

We're not talking about Obama's shut down which was over funding of Obamacare. Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

No election was founght on the issue of a wall. It was part of Trump's campaign, but Trump hasn't done anything other than run his mouth with lie piled upon lie to provide a need for the wall. The election just fought on Trump;'s policies was a huge loss for Trump so Trump can't even claim that the public wants this wall. They've just told him they don't.

The Canadian border crisis is a lack of resources available to the various levels of governmnet for the unexpected numbers of people coming in from the US. Many have been sent to Toronto where there are more beds, but those beds are needed for local homeless populations in winter. The "crisis" was to find housing for those claiming asylum before local needs were totally overwhelmed. The Provinces and the cities are asking for compensation for providing housing from their limited stocks.

Neither crisis has ANYTHING to do with the crisis that Trump has manufactured on the southern border, or petulant his refusal to accept the will of the American people, who elected a Democratic House precisely to put the fiscal brakes this proligating spending President before he bankrupts the country the way he has every business he's touched over the past 30 years.

Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

NEWSFLASH: Trump won on building the wall.

The 2016 election was not fought on building a wall. The wall was just one a number of promises made, like cutting taxes for the middle class, jobs on steroids, drain the swamp, build a wall. The Wall wasn't the centre piece of his campaign, like Obamacare was in the 2012 Campaign.

Trump told the American public to treat the 2018 Midterms as a referendum on his policies, and resoundingly the American public said "No", and installed the Democratic House to hold Trump accountable.

No, it was about the Now Dead Obamacare. Now onto priority #2.

 

[toobfreak]

[Don't recall Obama separting kids from their parents and throwing them into concentration camps...

Probably because Obama never tried to prosecute any of the adults for illegal entry (you know, ENFORCE THE LAW) which REQUIRED you to separate them from the kids.

But, um, yeah, any decent human being would call Trump's policies "Inhumane" .

Funny as those "inhuman" conditions are far better than they had on the road or back home. Odd I don't see you railing against the monstrous act these adults put these little kids through trying to drag them here as fodder hoping they could use them as leverage to get into the USA, that is, if they survived the trip! You're OK with CHILD ABUSE when Mexicans do it, just not with the USA when we try to shelter them and feed and care for them. I guess you'd put all these kids up in a hotel room? Fine. Are you going to pay for that? (Then let me hear you rail about the deficit).

You see, you're always in a lose lose argument Joe because you never actually think anything rationally through. If we had the wall, NONE OF THESE PROBLEMS WOULD BE OURS.

Well, except the two who've died... it kind of sucked for them.

Any kids that died only did so because they were already very sick and dying when they arrived and never should have been brought. Hopefully, Trump will prosecute the adults for murder as well.

 

[candycorn]

So, Obama ‘created’ the crisis he claimed during his administration, too? And Justin Trudeau’s is ‘created’ as well?
Opinion | A new crisis at Canada’s border tests Justin Trudeau’s compassion
Lol

View attachment 239621
Plurality of Voters Think There’s a Crisis at the Border

I said a few months ago Democrats were making a stand at Little Big Horn, and my prophecy has been fulfilled.

Yes, I'm sure that blogger post you linked to is unbiased and credible.

Yes, people think there's a crisis on the border, but MOST think the crisis is one of the President's making in order to justify his wall.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-c...wn-crisis-fewer-oppose-wall/story?id=60337670

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

We're not talking about Obama's shut down which was over funding of Obamacare. Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

No election was founght on the issue of a wall. It was part of Trump's campaign, but Trump hasn't done anything other than run his mouth with lie piled upon lie to provide a need for the wall. The election just fought on Trump;'s policies was a huge loss for Trump so Trump can't even claim that the public wants this wall. They've just told him they don't.

The Canadian border crisis is a lack of resources available to the various levels of governmnet for the unexpected numbers of people coming in from the US. Many have been sent to Toronto where there are more beds, but those beds are needed for local homeless populations in winter. The "crisis" was to find housing for those claiming asylum before local needs were totally overwhelmed. The Provinces and the cities are asking for compensation for providing housing from their limited stocks.

Neither crisis has ANYTHING to do with the crisis that Trump has manufactured on the southern border, or petulant his refusal to accept the will of the American people, who elected a Democratic House precisely to put the fiscal brakes this proligating spending President before he bankrupts the country the way he has every business he's touched over the past 30 years.

Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

NEWSFLASH: Trump won on building the wall.

The 2016 election was not fought on building a wall. The wall was just one a number of promises made, like cutting taxes for the middle class, jobs on steroids, drain the swamp, build a wall. The Wall wasn't the centre piece of his campaign, like Obamacare was in the 2012 Campaign.

Trump told the American public to treat the 2018 Midterms as a referendum on his policies, and resoundingly the American public said "No", and installed the Democratic House to hold Trump accountable.

Okay...but....

Look at the election closer. As you may know, I'm no supporter of the blob. I think we've met. LOL

That being said, the Democrats picked up a shitload of house seats. The reason for their pick-up is debatable on a seat-by-seat basis. However, what mirrors Presidential politics more closely is Senate Races where the Democrats didn't do as well. Governorship races are state-wide but the candidates run on local issues. The Dems did well there but I think it was bad republicans or (perhaps) republican fatigue in the case of Scott Walker.

Anyway, if the voters were not turned off by the sleaze, by the kidnapping, by the petulance, by the crisis/circus freakshow of the blob's administration in the first 2 years, I don't think the next two will cause much of a difference. The Dems had better hope for a massive blue turnout in the swing states.

 

[toobfreak]

Nearly 50% think there is either no crisis or no problem at all. Fail.

Math wasn't your strong suit, was it Corn. Better look at the chart again. It says that on average, only TWELVE PERCENT believe that America is facing neither a crisis nor problem at all. The other 78% believe we are. Those 12% are probably all illegals.

Ooooh... another moron! The thirty-seven percent who answered "US is facing a problem" did NOT answer "US is facing a crisis". They did not think the US is facing a crisis. Neither did the 12% who don't even think it's a problem.

Incorrect. You need to learn to read too.

Nope. I'll break it down for you:

42% - US is facing a crisis
37% - US is facing a problem (not a crisis)
12% - US isn't facing a crisis or a problem

I know math is hard, but bear with me here. Now, 37 + 12 = 49. 49 is nearly 50. So, cc's claim that "nearly 50% think there is either no crisis or no problem at all" is exactly correct. Let me know if you need help working through the steps.

12%. 37% see it as a problem. Simple. You’re grasping at straws. Stop it.

No, you're hiding behind your stupidity. The question is whether it's a crisis, not whether it is a problem.

It's funny, and true. You actually do use your stupidity to deflect arguments you don't like. Is it pretend? Or are you really too dumb to understand that half the country thinks you're wrong?

Thanks for the name calling. All I pointed out was that only 12% don’t think it’s a problem. So 88% think it’s at least a problem. When you grow up we can continue debating like adults. Good day.

CC said 50% don’t think it’s a crisis or problem at all. That is a false statement as the answer is 12%.

No. You're just an idiot.

There's the Left's answer to anything when they are caught with their foot in their mouth busted for lying and hollow "facts."

 

[candycorn]

I’ll be happy to.

Here is a screen cap from the OP:

View attachment 239871

See where it says “crisis”? That is one of the choices. Crisis, problem or “no problem or crisis”

The criteria isn’t a problem OR crisis; the title of the chart says a plurality (a greater amount but not a majority); sees a crisis. When in reality, more people polled see either “only” a problem or no problem at all.

Right, but what you wrote is 50% think there is either NO problem or No crisis at all. And that my dear is WRONG. I will accept that you made a typo and didn’t proof before posting.

Well in the first place it was 49%, dear. In the 2nd place, the “plurality” don’t see a crisis.

Ok, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but now I realize that was undeserved. The FACT is over 70% of all voters (Democrat, Republican, independent see either a problem or a crisis. While only 12% of all voters think there is neither a crisis or problem. Where the hell did the 49% come from. Show your work so I can help you understand your mistake. It’s the only way you will learn. I know math and numbers are tough for a lot of girls, but with help you can do better.

Reading isn’t your strong suit.
The OP and the chart says a plurality sees a crisis.
Mathematics 37% + 12% do not see a crisis—49%>42%.

Hence the OP is false

If this is too complicated for you to understand; I’m not surprised.

Apparently, it is. But it's in their nature to strut around crowing about their stupidity as if it's something to be proud of.

What always tickles me about republicans is that when you point out something that shades their world view; like Hillary getting 3M more votes...they drop everything to tell you that the votes didn't count because they came from a state where Trump isn't popular or that the popular vote doesn't count when it is, in fact, the basis of the electoral votes in the states. I don't recall Obama supporters being so reflex-oriented about such things.

 

[beagle9]

Fact is you were okay with it under Obama, but now outraged it happening under Trump which proves you're a hypocrite with no credibility.

Obama never housed 10,000 kids. You’re simply either lying or woefully misinformed. The kids that were stripped from their parents was done out of necessity and not as a deterrent. Again; you’re either lying or woefully misinformed.

But lets say you’re right that Obama did the same thing. I’m sure you can point to YOUR posts praising such inhumanity since you get off on that kind of stuff.

Please link to your posts praising Obama’s treatment of illegal aliens. You can do that; can’t you boy?

Dumbass the pictures were during Obama's presidency. The media put those pictures out trying to make Trump look bad, but when they found out it was during Obama's term. The quickly stopped with it. Tell me do you know the real reason most of them are seperated? Well i hope you do, and yes i would back Obama on it too. Oh, and another thing, those kids are living better than alot of american kids.

The concentration camps that the big orange blob has down there have over 10,000 kids in them. For no other reason than sheer cruelty. It is a lie that Obama ever did anything remotely as reprehensible as that. That they are dying while in our custody would usually draw a UN or Red Cross inspection unit.

But please tell us, since you’re a kidnapping and child abuse aficionado and you say Obama did the same thing..please link to a post of yours praising his inhumanity.

Oh that’s right, there is no such link because there was never any such actions under President Obama.

Listen, this isn't only a Trump administration problem and you know it. This has been a build up over time, and it just so happens that Trump had it land in his lap like W had 9-11 fall upon him as soon as he took office.

Then when these president's try to correct years of bullcrap ignored and/or created in the past, the opposing party sits their like a pack of shar
ks ready to use any actions taken against a situation to pounce, otherwise to try and blame a sitting president with it or for it.

Anyone who can't see the bullcrap going on is either mentally retarded or just evil (part of the problem), in some form or another.

The problem didn't start with the Trump Administration but the decisions made by this Administration are what have lead directly to the crisis we have now.

Only the Trump Administration made the decision to detain all asylum seekers crossing the border. Only the Trump Administration made the decision to remove children of tender years from the their parents' custody, ship them across the country, with no idea who belonged to whom, and lost track of them. Only the Trump Administration has seen not one but two children die in Border Patrol custody. Only the Trump Administration has built concentration camps on the Southern Border to detain people who have commited misdemeanor crimes, or used those crimes as an excuse for seizing people's children.

This is child abuse. This is torture. This violates the US Constitution. It violates the UN Human Rights Charter which the US helped draft, and it violates all human decency.

It is not the problem of illegal immigrants crossing the border that is causing the problem, but rather President Trump's response to it, that is problematic.

Are you serious ??? Good grief.

Trump isn't to blame for the entire situation, and I garantee you that if you had the job Trump had, that you would struggle to straighten up years and years of bullcrap that the past government officials had created and/or ignored.

The child abuse is this dragging of children across dangerous lands in order to enter them criminally into another land. Child trafficking is a major problem, child exploitation is another major problem, and the use of children as human political shields is just as low and/or sick as it gets.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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Plurality of Voters Think There’s a Crisis at the Border

I said a few months ago Democrats were making a stand at Little Big Horn, and my prophecy has been fulfilled.

Great. Then let's open the govt and get some border security.

Americans blame shutdown on Trump over Democrats by wide margin, poll finds

 

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Nearly 50% think there is either no crisis or no problem at all. Fail.

Math wasn't your strong suit, was it Corn. Better look at the chart again. It says that on average, only TWELVE PERCENT believe that America is facing neither a crisis nor problem at all. The other 78% believe we are. Those 12% are probably all illegals.

Ooooh... another moron! The thirty-seven percent who answered "US is facing a problem" did NOT answer "US is facing a crisis". They did not think the US is facing a crisis. Neither did the 12% who don't even think it's a problem.

Nope. I'll break it down for you:

42% - US is facing a crisis
37% - US is facing a problem (not a crisis)
12% - US isn't facing a crisis or a problem

I know math is hard, but bear with me here. Now, 37 + 12 = 49. 49 is nearly 50. So, cc's claim that "nearly 50% think there is either no crisis or no problem at all" is exactly correct. Let me know if you need help working through the steps.

12%. 37% see it as a problem. Simple. You’re grasping at straws. Stop it.

No, you're hiding behind your stupidity. The question is whether it's a crisis, not whether it is a problem.

It's funny, and true. You actually do use your stupidity to deflect arguments you don't like. Is it pretend? Or are you really too dumb to understand that half the country thinks you're wrong?

Thanks for the name calling. All I pointed out was that only 12% don’t think it’s a problem. So 88% think it’s at least a problem. When you grow up we can continue debating like adults. Good day.

CC said 50% don’t think it’s a crisis or problem at all. That is a false statement as the answer is 12%.

No. You're just an idiot.

There's the Left's answer to anything when they are caught with their foot in their mouth busted for lying and hollow "facts."

See what I mean?

 

[toobfreak]

So, Obama ‘created’ the crisis he claimed during his administration, too? And Justin Trudeau’s is ‘created’ as well?
Opinion | A new crisis at Canada’s border tests Justin Trudeau’s compassion
Lol

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Plurality of Voters Think There’s a Crisis at the Border

I said a few months ago Democrats were making a stand at Little Big Horn, and my prophecy has been fulfilled.

Yes, I'm sure that blogger post you linked to is unbiased and credible.

Yes, people think there's a crisis on the border, but MOST think the crisis is one of the President's making in order to justify his wall.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-c...wn-crisis-fewer-oppose-wall/story?id=60337670

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

We're not talking about Obama's shut down which was over funding of Obamacare. Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

No election was founght on the issue of a wall. It was part of Trump's campaign, but Trump hasn't done anything other than run his mouth with lie piled upon lie to provide a need for the wall. The election just fought on Trump;'s policies was a huge loss for Trump so Trump can't even claim that the public wants this wall. They've just told him they don't.

The Canadian border crisis is a lack of resources available to the various levels of governmnet for the unexpected numbers of people coming in from the US. Many have been sent to Toronto where there are more beds, but those beds are needed for local homeless populations in winter. The "crisis" was to find housing for those claiming asylum before local needs were totally overwhelmed. The Provinces and the cities are asking for compensation for providing housing from their limited stocks.

Neither crisis has ANYTHING to do with the crisis that Trump has manufactured on the southern border, or petulant his refusal to accept the will of the American people, who elected a Democratic House precisely to put the fiscal brakes this proligating spending President before he bankrupts the country the way he has every business he's touched over the past 30 years.

Obama had just won the election on this issue. Big difference.

NEWSFLASH: Trump won on building the wall.

The 2016 election was not fought on building a wall. The wall was just one a number of promises made, like cutting taxes for the middle class, jobs on steroids, drain the swamp, build a wall. The Wall wasn't the centre piece of his campaign, like Obamacare was in the 2012 Campaign.

Trump told the American public to treat the 2018 Midterms as a referendum on his policies, and resoundingly the American public said "No", and installed the Democratic House to hold Trump accountable.

AS to 2016, don't forget rebuilding the infrastructure. But yes, the wall and border was a major campaign issue upon which Trump was elected. He talked about it like 900 times!
I don't remember Obama EVER talking about socializing medicine in a government take over, much less it being his centerpiece. But then, I never heard him say he was going to have government take over the auto industry, banking, school loans or give away 800 billion dollars in failed crony schemes to his friends.

The midterms are seldom a referendum on anything as they almost always switch to the other side. Other than pick up some house seats, the democrats did more poorly than expected. As expected, Democrats will spend the next several years doing nothing and getting nothing done, spending all their effort simply trying to obstruct any government solutions or progress which do not favor their efforts to fundamentally shift this country over to a poor, low-class, uneducated majority.

 

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Trump won on building the wall.

Um, no he lost by 3 million votes....

The people said "NO!"

They said it a little louder in November.

Uhhmmm,
Trump 2626 counties, Hillary 487 .
Trump won 307 electoral votes to Hillary’s 231
Trump won 30 states, Hillary 20.