The TRUTH Behind Homosexuality and Mental Illness

musicman said:
Yes - miraculously enough. I loathed my little sisters; we hurled curses, imprecations, and body blows at one another from dusk till dawn. But, yes - I was naturally and innately drawn to females, as is - an HONEST look at society will bear out - proper, good, and conducive to health and happiness.

Wow - not to hijack the thread (even though Id love to do just that lol), but this brings about something that Ive found disturbingly fascinating for a while now. Being an only child, I never had siblings to love or loathe. I notice my nearly 16 year old daughter and 14 year old son wanting to KILL each other (thank god that they dont feel that way about their new sister....yet...hopefully never?) Ive always wondered if this is normal. Sometimes I think they'll kill each other without intervention.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
hmm, I had all kinds of things I wanted to put down, but i'll save them for later. :halo:

eh. Its a mind over matter thing, honey.
I dont mind
you dont matter

Youre now dismissed.

pppffffttttttt (said in CLASSIC KL style)
:cof:
 
rtwngAvngr said:
So your sexual orientation was not a conscious choice. Do you believe gays choose THEIR orientation?


If they're thinking sexually about someone of their own gender, something has gone wrong. It is not a good and natural thing, to be encouraged, as any honest look at society will prove. It is a problem to be addressed.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
I think you'll find it's a legitimate question in the context of the thread. Please get a grip.

Talking about childhood sexual attraction crosses the line. It's 'my' call...as is the case. Therefore - please don't write replies akin to the one in question. That reply is vulgar, imo. Sucks if you don't agree...doesn't change the fact I'm asking you to refrain.
 
musicman said:
If they're thinking sexually about someone of their own gender, something has gone wrong. It is not a good and natural thing, to be encouraged, as any honest look at society will prove. It is a problem to be addressed.

I think if I honestly allowed society to dictate my outlook on everything in life, I'd be completely miserable. I think you would, too. Just because you're not naturally attracted to the same sex, that doesn't mean you get to dictate it as "sick and abnormal" for the rest of society. After all, it could be any one of your children that turns out "sick and abnormal", any of your grandchildren, etc.. I assume then, that you'd completely write them off?

That'd be pretty sad, and selfish, I think.
 
musicman said:
If they're thinking sexually about someone of their own gender, something has gone wrong. It is not a good and natural thing, to be encouraged, as any honest look at society will prove. It is a problem to be addressed.

Right. Their brain is more feminized than the average male.

You guys all know I have severe problems with gay activists and socialists trying to destroy and marginalize the traditional family and shove gayness down our throats, so to speak, but ignoring science to this degree just looks stupid.

i love all you guys, but not in a gay way.
 
MyName said:
Wow - not to hijack the thread (even though Id love to do just that lol), but this brings about something that Ive found disturbingly fascinating for a while now. Being an only child, I never had siblings to love or loathe. I notice my nearly 16 year old daughter and 14 year old son wanting to KILL each other (thank god that they dont feel that way about their new sister....yet...hopefully never?) Ive always wondered if this is normal. Sometimes I think they'll kill each other without intervention.


LOL! I wouldn't worry too much, MyName. Sibling rivalry can get pretty intense; I often think of those nature shows, where pups or kittens or joeys or whatever wing each other all over the jungle until feeding time. It's just practice for adult life. My sisters and I are very close now.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
So your sexual orientation was not a conscious choice. Do you believe gays choose THEIR orientation?


Written by a gay man:

However, the problem with the "no choice" position on homosexuality is that in order to be effective it requires us to forget about the important distinction between desire and behavior. The position implies that a desire one can't help feeling is a desire one is *entitled* to satisfy: thus because homosexuals can't help feeling same-sex attractions, they should therefore be allowed to act on those attractions. However, the logic of this argument cannot hold up to much scrutiny. While we may have no choice about our feelings and desires, we routinely and continually *do* exercise control over our actions. As the right-wing opponents of gay rights point out, just because you have a desire does not necessarily mean that you should act on it.

More...here
 
musicman said:
LOL! I wouldn't worry too much, MyName. Sibling rivalry can get pretty intense; I often think of those nature shows, where pups or kittens or joeys or whatever wing each other all over the jungle until feeding time. It's just practice for adult life. My sisters and I are very close now.

maybe they will be close in later life....that is, if they dont kill each other before then
 
MyName said:
maybe they will be close in later life....that is, if they dont kill each other before then
I hope so too, you see how my sibling relationship is currently.
 
-=d=- said:
Written by a gay man:

It seems you have accepted the premise that gayness is a natural inborn inclination. I'm not saying normal. I'm saying natural. True, one can choose to fight their inborn inclinations. How difficult is it?
 
Shattered said:
I think if I honestly allowed society to dictate my outlook on everything in life, I'd be completely miserable. I think you would, too.


Yeah, but - if you're honest - society dictates your outlook somewhat, right?


Shattered said:
Just because you're not naturally attracted to the same sex, that doesn't mean you get to dictate it as "sick and abnormal" for the rest of society.


But it's not me "dictating" anything! As a human being - as a father and a grandfather - I have a responsibility to make decisions based on what I see. I see a concerted effort by a special interest group to promote a behavior that is demonstrably harmful and dangerous. I will protect me and mine.


Shattered said:
After all, it could be any one of your children that turns out "sick and abnormal", any of your grandchildren, etc..


And that would suit the activists just fine. They don't love my children; they love themselves, their perversion, and the idea of societal justification for same. I will protect me and mine.


Shattered said:
I assume then, that you'd completely write them off?

That'd be pretty sad, and selfish, I think.


You probably shouldn't make assumptions about people you don't know.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
It seems you have accepted the premise that gayness is a natural inborn inclination. I'm not saying normal. I'm saying natural. True, one can choose to fight their inborn inclinations. How difficult is it?


No - if you read the link, you'll see not even all gay people believe it's anything but a choice. Some guys love sex with guys. For whatever reason. That like for sex acts with a man is purely one's preference - one's choice. It's not born into somebody, but developed in somebody thru environment and experiments I'd guess.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
... ignoring science to this degree just looks stupid.


Haven't seen much "science" from the proponents, RWA. Lots of agenda-driven wishful thinking, though. I guess that counts for something... :confused:


rtwngAvngr said:
i love all you guys, but not in a gay way.


:beer:
 
musicman said:
Yeah, but - if you're honest - society dictates your outlook somewhat, right?

I suppose so.. Society dictates that I probably shouldn't stand on my porch while completely nude.





But it's not me "dictating" anything! As a human being - as a father and a grandfather - I have a responsibility to make decisions based on what I see. I see a concerted effort by a special interest group to promote a behavior that is demonstrably harmful and dangerous. I will protect me and mine.

How would you "protect" yours from such a behavior, if that's the way they "choose" to go?





You probably shouldn't make assumptions about people you don't know.

Yes, I stated it was an assumption - feel free to correct me if it's incorrect. Or, I could pose the same thing in the form of a question: Would you accept them, or would you completely write them off? There's no middle ground...
 
-=d=- said:
No - if you read the link, you'll see not even all gay people believe it's anything but a choice. Some guys love sex with guys. For whatever reason. That like for sex acts with a man is purely one's preference - one's choice. It's not born into somebody, but developed in somebody thru environment and experiments I'd guess.

If it's not born into somebody, what is the gay man in your previous post struggling to overcome? His previous choices? It seems your at odds with yourself on this one.
 
Shattered said:
I suppose so.. Society dictates that I probably shouldn't stand on my porch while completely nude.


Those BASTARDS!


Shattered said:
How would you "protect" yours from such a behavior, if that's the way they "choose" to go?


With good, consistent information, coming - not from some sleazebag who's trying to sell them a CD or a movie ticket - but from someone who knows something of life, and would die in fire for them without a second thought.


Shattered said:
Yes, I stated it was an assumption - feel free to correct me if it's incorrect. Or, I could pose the same thing in the form of a question: Would you accept them, or would you completely write them off? There's no middle ground...


Sure there is. True love is stubborn; it doesn't turn its back because of mistakes.
 
-=d=- said:
Talking about childhood sexual attraction crosses the line. It's 'my' call...as is the case. Therefore - please don't write replies akin to the one in question. That reply is vulgar, imo. Sucks if you don't agree...doesn't change the fact I'm asking you to refrain.

It doesn't cross the line. It's totally in context. I'll write what I want. Quit being a nazi. Got it, ace?
 

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