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Shattered said:**sneaks in**
Where's the scientific proof that it's a perverted choice? There are countless studies supporting each of your theories...
**sneaks out**
Pale Rider said:I'm having a hard time believing your serious asking such a foolish question.
"Straight" is "normal". Are you imply to be straight there's something wrong with us?
rtwngAvngr said:It's a reasonable question.
I'm implying, no, stating bluntly, that no one chooses their brain configuration. True, some people go through phases in college where they experiment with being lesbians for political purposes, but these people eventually drop the facade and admit they're really straight.
-=d=- said:Fortunately, it's up to 'them' to prove they are biologically disabled...not the rest of us to prove they are not. The simple fact there exists NO physical evidence of their 'condition' other than their behaviour does a pretty good job, imo.
Pale Rider said:Brain configuration? That's a new one.
rtwngAvngr said:Is there proof that the behavior DOES cause neurological alteration.
rtwngAvngr said:It's not as much genetic as it is developmental. Hormonal fluctuations, possibly unrelated to genetics in any way, cause the brain to develop in either a masculine or feminine way.
rtwngAvngr said:Have you read any research on this whatsoever? The brain is sexually dimorphic. Sometimes a feminized brain develops in an otherwise male body. Or vice versa. It's really simple.
This kind of abject ignorance is what gives republicans a bad name.
musicman said:Is that really the issue, though? It is LeVar and his ilk who have made this bald assertion, and tried to back it up with thin, agenda-driven science. They have failed to meet the burden of proof; it is not society's obligation tp prove a negative.
There's not a shred of proof for this, nor any way - short of an autopsy - of finding out. And that would be the autopsy of an adult, I might add - otherwise, how do we even know the sexual "identity"? So, we're right back where we started.
rtwngAvngr said:Is there proof that the behavior DOES cause neurological alteration.
It's not as much genetic as it is developmental. Hormonal fluctuations, possibly unrelated to genetics in any way, cause the brain to develop in either a masculine or feminine way.
Pale Rider said:So now simply believing that being straight is normal, and being queer is abnormal, gives Republicans a bad name.
Maaaaaaan... now I've heard everything.
Pale Rider said:And you... do we get to start "calling names now"?
rtwngAvngr said:The science isn't that thin or agenda driven.
rtwngAvngr said:Gay people shouldn't be saddled with the burden of proving their sexual orientation isn't a choice
rtwngAvngr said:when we all know that's absurd.
rtwngAvngr said:When did you choose to be straight, mm, seriously?
musicman said:When I was in second grade, we sat at tables, facing one another. One day, a cute little girl I liked decided to drape her skirt over the table top. My pencil fell to the floor; it was an accident - I SWEAR!
rtwngAvngr said:Have you read any research on this whatsoever? The brain is sexually dimorphic. Sometimes a feminized brain develops in an otherwise male body. Or vice versa. It's really simple.
This kind of abject ignorance is what gives republicans a bad name.
Trinity said:Sure it was! You planned it and you know it come on fess up. You made that pencil roll off the table!
musicman said:LOL - I WILLED it off the table!
'Course, that little swipe of the arm didn't hurt matters, either!
-=d=- said:Of course I've read research - why are you asking this again?
The research is agenda-driven, or otherwise flawed. (shrug). It doesn't take a rocket scientist, just somebody who isn't clouded by 'Tolerance'.