The Story of one "EX" Gay

[The ClayTaurus]

We can play that little proofing game if you want, twat. What I corrected you on had nothing to do with spelling, it had to do with you not having a clue about what you were trying to say, playa. Are you really trying to say that you could care less? So what?

I screwed up a phrase not because I don't understand the difference, but rather for the same reason your posts are littered with mistakes: laziness. If you wanna bust balls about proper use of the English language, we can go that route. I don't claim to have impeccable control of it, particularly when dealing with colloquialisms, but I certainly check that any critiques I do make are free from the elementary mistakes that your posts exhibit.

Kind of bothers you that the entire post describes you perfectly doesn't it? Naive child. Follower of others.

Your statements couldn't be more baseless. Although you're welcome to surprise me...

By the way, why would you think anybody gives a shit about whatever obscure garbage you last listened to?

Obscure? I thought I was a follower of others? Please, try to stay consistent with your inaccurate generalizations of me.

I would listen to country before that crap you think is worth spoiling the air with. :gang1:

Then go! Go listen to country. I really don't care.

 

[sitarro]

I screwed up a phrase not because I don't understand the difference, but rather for the same reason your posts are littered with mistakes: laziness. If you wanna bust balls about proper use of the English language, we can go that route. I don't claim to have impeccable control of it, particularly when dealing with colloquialisms, but I certainly check that any critiques I do make are free from the elementary mistakes that your posts exhibit.Your statements couldn't be more baseless. Although you're welcome to surprise me...Obscure? I thought I was a follower of others? Please, try to stay consistent with your inaccurate generalizations of me.Then go! Go listen to country. I really don't care.

My post was written after a 8 hour round trip taken to shoot 1000 photographs at a wedding and reception(wedding and reception added up to 6.5 hours by itself). If you look at the time of the post you will see that I wrote it at 3:42 in the morning after spending my 4 hour drive back reviewing and adjusting the photos on the incredible 17" Mac Book Pro using the wonderful Aperture software by Apple. Still a bit keyed up after the excitement and dread that goes into a wedding shoot I decided to catch up on a few threads. I'm not using this as an excuse for my typo problems, it is more a dispute of your including me in your claim of laziness. Obviously by the way you pattern everything you do from buying a car to the way you wear your hat to the noise you mistakingly classify as music, you are indeed lazy and are a follower of others who also have no taste. Don't lump me into that pathetic existence.

I may be older and slower but I certainly don't look to others to find out what to think or how to act.... I'm all grown up and find kids like you that feel they know it all, very funny. I was like you once, I didn't know shit either. The difference is that I have never stopped learning and plan to continue for the rest of my life.

By the way, the wedding was a beautiful ceremony between a normal heterosexual couple who plan on adding to the world a couple of decent kids like they are and raising them with real American values. She is a teacher and he is an FBI agent, both are conservative but were married at a 150 year old Bed and Breakfast in the Hill country by a Justice of the Peace. Obviously "conservative" doesn't mean right wing religious fanatic.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

My post was written after a 8 hour round trip taken to shoot 1000 photographs at a wedding and reception(wedding and reception added up to 6.5 hours by itself). If you look at the time of the post you will see that I wrote it at 3:42 in the morning after spending my 4 hour drive back reviewing and adjusting the photos on the incredible 17" Mac Book Pro using the wonderful Aperture software by Apple. Still a bit keyed up after the excitement and dread that goes into a wedding shoot I decided to catch up on a few threads. I'm not using this as an excuse for my typo problems, it is more a dispute of your including me in your claim of laziness. Obviously by the way you pattern everything you do from buying a car to the way you wear your hat to the noise you mistakingly classify as music, you are indeed lazy and are a follower of others who also have no taste. Don't lump me into that pathetic existence.

None of that even makes any sense. The orientation of my hat that you obsess over implies I'm lazy? My taste in music implies I'm lazy? You know nothing about me other than that I'm too lazy to check every post I make for perfection - something that you as well are too lazy to do. Unless you have some other reason? You were too tired?

I may be older and slower but I certainly don't look to others to find out what to think or how to act.... I'm all grown up and find kids like you that feel they know it all, very funny. I was like you once, I didn't know shit either. The difference is that I have never stopped learning and plan to continue for the rest of my life.

The only thing funny is your misconception of who I am based on things as trivial as how I wear my hat. As for why this all bothers you so much, I'll refrain from speculating.

As for you being like you, I can only hope this isn't the case when I reach your age.

By the way, the wedding was a beautiful ceremony between a normal heterosexual couple who plan on adding to the world a couple of decent kids like they are and raising them with real American values. She is a teacher and he is an FBI agent, both are conservative but were married at a 150 year old Bed and Breakfast in the Hill country by a Justice of the Peace. Obviously "conservative" doesn't mean right wing religious fanatic.

So if I plan on and hope for the same or similar, that says what about me? I guess in some aspects I AM a follower!

Ask around; I'm not a Christophobe in the slightest.

 

[Mr. P]

Ex-Gay speaker Greg Quinlan
Tuesday, June 06, 2006 -



Ethics & Religion

Causes & Cures of Homosexuality

by columnist Michael J. McManus
May 24, 2006

NEWARK: What causes homosexuality? Are people born homosexual?

Last week the New Jersey Family Policy Council answered those questions by inviting Greg Quinlan, an ex-gay, to speak to clergy in six cities.

His testimony begins with his father, "who was Archie Bunker" in manner, but unlike Archie, was physically abusive, beating his son so badly he was hospitalized twice. One day at age 8, in front of his friends, Greg asked his dad, "You hate me, don't you?" His dad cursed and replied, "Yes, I hate you." Greg sighed, "I knew that."

When Greg was 9 he "professed his faith in Jesus Christ. "But as things got worse, at age 10, a boy across the street, aged 13, introduced me to sex. I knew it was wrong, but what I got was affirmation, affection, approval and someone touching me who was not beating me up.

I got involved in pornography, discos, the homosexual lifestyle. I was very, very sexually promiscuous. It is the providence of God that I, at age 47, am HIV free."

As a registered nurse he volunteered to care for 100 men who died of AIDS before he stopped counting. Quinlan went to their funerals, reading their favorite Bible verses.

He joined the Human Rights Campaign, responsible for raising tens of thousands of dollars for one of the largest and most effective lobbies in Washington, which persuaded Congress to invest in AIDS research. "They taught me how to lobby. But what the devil trained me to do, God can use for His glory," he told pastors.

Quinlan started watching the 700 Club.

At first, he wanted to "reach through the set and strangle Pat Robertson. But he saw an ex-gay on the show who shared how he left the lifestyle. "EX-GAY?" he asked himself. "How is that possible? But I hated my life. There is pleasure in sin for a season, but I wanted out."

He called a Christian friend across the country and asked him to lead him in making a re- commitment to Christ. When Quinlan prayed the sinner's prayer, "I had peace." He started going to church.

At age 35, Greg's father, who was dying due to smoking, asked his son, the RN, to care for him. One day Greg told his dad, "I can't be here tomorrow, due to work." His father who had undergone a deathbed conversion, replied, "That's OK. I love you, Greg."

He was stunned. Prompted by a nurse, he replied, "I love you too, Dad." He died the next day. When Greg started on a path of truly forgiving his father, his anger and bitterness left - along with his homosexual desires. "I had a lot of reason to be angry. Three-quarters of gays were molested at an early age, like me. Now sex education is telling kids, homosexuality is normal."

He started a ministry in Dayton, the Pro Family Network, which lobbied for passage of Ohio's one man, one woman Marriage Amendment. He's been on the 700 Club four times, with his wife. As a result, he has received death threats, which frighten her.

He answers gay critics who charge that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality: "Look at Matthew 19, in answer to the Pharisees. Jesus replies, 'Haven't you heard, at the beginning, the Creator made them male and female.' Stop there. Not Adam and Steve, or Eve and Edith, but man and woman. 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one.' They had sex. That's how we all got here. Jesus is quoting Genesis, and he can because he was there," he says to applause.

"There is no biological evidence, not one repeatable study, not a single genetic test that gives any validity to homosexual behavior as a "born" trait. No one is born Gay, no one! Homosexuality is an emotional disorder, a pathology that can be and has been effectively changed when a person is highly motivated."

A woman once challenged him: "If we find a gay gene, then you will have to accept it."

"No, I won't," he countered. "Last week I heard they discovered a gene that causes hereditary breast cancer. You think that if there is a gay gene, homosexuals should embrace their homosexuality.

Then she should accept her cancer, and embrace it. NO! That's nonsense. If diabetes has a gene, we seek to cure it. If there is a gay gene, let's work to cure it."

"Remember Scripture, 'Such were some of you.' It is a changeable behavior."


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LOL, at least he admits he has no clue, while pulling the "I was gay" scam and making a ton of $$$ on speaches etc.. What a fraud!

 

[Hagbard Celine]

Congratualations kids and naive older asswipes,
In a matter of only a few generations the homosexual propaganda crowd has been successful at not only getting you to be accepting of their abhorent behavior but you nimrods even believe their "relationships" are equal in every way to heterosexuals(normal people). You guys are from the same generation that think blacks are really cool and actually have taste in music, car customization, treatment of women and dance inventiveness..... that's funny. I'm sure you guys have also bought into the bullshit that says homosexuals have better taste in everyhing than normal guys .... sure, ha ha ha ha, that's cute.

Oh and Clay, the phrase is.... I couldn't care less.... the way you said it on an earlier post was meaningless.

Thank you for your insightful, mature and thought-provoking comments sitarro. Unfortunately, in your rampant generalization of the "homosexual propaganda crowd," you mis-represented me so I'd like to correct you. I support homosexuals in that I do not hate them for being who they are and I think it is their right to do what they want to in regard to their personal, sexual preferences. Besides, I'm not keen on the idea of ass sex with a man, so I'd rather leave it to the gays and not meddle in their affairs. That said, I do not think that homosexual and heterosexual relationships are equal. In fact, I don't even know how the word "equal" can come into a conversation about relationships, especially when the two types of relationships are so completely different. Plus I didn't realize it was a competition. I guess I'll let my girlfriend know so that we can work on our game plan. :huh:

I also don't understand why you would insinuate that being normal, as in "(normal people)," is something to be proud of or stive toward when you clearly debased Clay for being a "follower of others" in a previous post. It appears that you are schitzophrenic in your apparent struggle between your conformist/non-conformist identities.

As for black culture, I think a lot of blacks are really cool and I think a lot aren't. I don't like a lot of the "black" music, but I do like some of it. I don't know why you would assume that I like all of it when you don't even know what kinds of music I listen to. :huh: I don't know you so I wouldn't operate under the assumption that you love polka music and value polka culture, so why would you assume that I love and value rap culture? This idea seems very odd to me. What the heck does rap even have to do with gays anyway? Seems like a non-sequiter. But what do I know? I'm not a wedding photographer. :huh:

As for gays' taste in fashion, culture, etc. Like all your other generalizations, you're once again buying into whatever stereotype you've been spoon-fed by Rush Limbaugh or whatever other soapbox pundit you get your information from. I actually had to room with a homo the one semester I lived in the dorms in college and he didn't follow any of the stereotypes. He was a slob and my fashion sense was much more advanced than his--so the lesson is that we can't always buy into stereotypes. Why not try making your own opinions based on your own observations? Embrace individuality. You don't always have to follow the crowd.

 

[archangel]

My post was written after a 8 hour round trip taken to shoot 1000 photographs at a wedding and reception(wedding and reception added up to 6.5 hours by itself). If you look at the time of the post you will see that I wrote it at 3:42 in the morning after spending my 4 hour drive back reviewing and adjusting the photos on the incredible 17" Mac Book Pro using the wonderful Aperture software by Apple. Still a bit keyed up after the excitement and dread that goes into a wedding shoot I decided to catch up on a few threads. I'm not using this as an excuse for my typo problems, it is more a dispute of your including me in your claim of laziness. Obviously by the way you pattern everything you do from buying a car to the way you wear your hat to the noise you mistakingly classify as music, you are indeed lazy and are a follower of others who also have no taste. Don't lump me into that pathetic existence.

I may be older and slower but I certainly don't look to others to find out what to think or how to act.... I'm all grown up and find kids like you that feel they know it all, very funny. I was like you once, I didn't know shit either. The difference is that I have never stopped learning and plan to continue for the rest of my life.

By the way, the wedding was a beautiful ceremony between a normal heterosexual couple who plan on adding to the world a couple of decent kids like they are and raising them with real American values. She is a teacher and he is an FBI agent, both are conservative but were married at a 150 year old Bed and Breakfast in the Hill country by a Justice of the Peace. Obviously "conservative" doesn't mean right wing religious fanatic.

LOL...clay is young he is going through a phase of his life as all of us did...we knew it all...until reality set in...I do like his pics of the cute gals from time to time...albeit overkill sometimes is wearing! Carry on!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

LOL...clay is young he is going through a phase of his life as all of us did...we knew it all...until reality set in...I do like his pics of the cute gals from time to time...albeit overkill sometimes is wearing! Carry on!

Hey! Thanks for sharing!

 

[sitarro]

Hey! Thanks for sharing!

Sean Combs is a Dildo and no doubt homosexual.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Sean Combs is a Dildo and no doubt homosexual.

Can't say I disagree all that much.

 

[archangel]

Hey! Thanks for sharing!

I was young and dumb too...once upon a time...hell as a kid I thought the only cute and sexy girls were surfers and cheerleaders...blond, blue eyed, short and petite...damn was I wrong...after marrying two of em...which ended in divorce...and after traveling the world as a young man...well damn I found out hey there is a world undiscovered out there...albeit I still prefer short and petite...only cause I am short...not that I don't like starring into the ...well ya get the drift...but hey what can I say...I am only humane...this also applies to all walks of life... just so the gals won't accuse me of focusing on lust...I place this disclaimer...ya want to fit in when young...when older ya want to be respected for leading the way...what else can I say!

 

[Hagbard Celine]

I was young and dumb too...once upon a time...hell as a kid I thought the only cute and sexy girls were surfers and cheerleaders...blond, blue eyed, short and petite...damn was I wrong...after marrying two of em...which ended in divorce...and after traveling the world as a young man...well damn I found out hey there is a world undiscovered out there...albeit I still prefer short and petite...only cause I am short...not that I don't like starring into the ...well ya get the drift...but hey what can I say...I am only humane...this also applies to all walks of life... just so the gals won't accuse me of focusing on lust...I place this disclaimer...ya want to fit in when young...when older ya want to be respected for leading the way...what else can I say!

 

[archangel]

Laugh all ya want...good things come in small packages...I fogot more than ya will ever KNOW!.. :rotflmao:

 

[archangel]

Where did clay go...never mind he is probably out looking for 'Gidget' Boldly go where no man has gone before" Never mind been there and done that..."Like Surfs up" Dude...ahh the innocents of youth!:halo:

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Where did clay go...never mind he is probably out looking for 'Gidget' Boldy go where no man has gone before" Never mind been there and done that..."Like Surfs up" Dude...ahh the innocents of youth!:halo:

Was I supposed to comment on your post?

Football is on. You are currently outranked.

 

[archangel]

Was I supposed to comment on your post?

Football is on. You are currently outranked.

Naw just having some fun...enjoy the game...gotta run the GD wants to hijack my PC for homework...ahh the life of a G/pa!

 

[Nuc]

I was young and dumb too...once upon a time...

And now? :huh:

 

[Avatar4321]

Congratualations kids and naive older asswipes,
In a matter of only a few generations the homosexual propaganda crowd has been successful at not only getting you to be accepting of their abhorent behavior but you nimrods even believe their "relationships" are equal in every way to heterosexuals(normal people). You guys are from the same generation that think blacks are really cool and actually have taste in music, car customization, treatment of women and dance inventiveness..... that's funny. I'm sure you guys have also bought into the bullshit that says homosexuals have better taste in everyhing than normal guys .... sure, ha ha ha ha, that's cute.

Oh and Clay, the phrase is.... I couldn't care less.... the way you said it on an earlier post was meaningless.

I dont think our generation is as bad as you think. Or atleast the ones that are are starting to grow out of it. My friend since like i was 12 has begun wheening himself off of rape and hip off and been moving towards classical of all things. Which shocked me even though i think classical is pretty cool stuff sometimes. Of course it might be do more to the fact that he isnt on drugs all the time or drunk off his ass anymore.

My point is: There is hope

 

[archangel]

And now? :huh:

Sorry nuc not ignoring you...just saw this post...so here is the answer to your confusion...I am older and wiser now...and you? Never mind ya are probably out and about practicing your martial arts in order to reach a much higher plain in the Buddhist movement...not older and wiser but younger and dumber....
the food of the Buddhist...lol

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Bump

One of my favorite threads form the good old days.

 

[Luissa]

Ex-Gay speaker Greg Quinlan
Tuesday, June 06, 2006 -



Ethics & Religion

Causes & Cures of Homosexuality

by columnist Michael J. McManus
May 24, 2006

NEWARK: What causes homosexuality? Are people born homosexual?

Last week the New Jersey Family Policy Council answered those questions by inviting Greg Quinlan, an ex-gay, to speak to clergy in six cities.

His testimony begins with his father, "who was Archie Bunker" in manner, but unlike Archie, was physically abusive, beating his son so badly he was hospitalized twice. One day at age 8, in front of his friends, Greg asked his dad, "You hate me, don't you?" His dad cursed and replied, "Yes, I hate you." Greg sighed, "I knew that."

When Greg was 9 he "professed his faith in Jesus Christ. "But as things got worse, at age 10, a boy across the street, aged 13, introduced me to sex. I knew it was wrong, but what I got was affirmation, affection, approval and someone touching me who was not beating me up.

I got involved in pornography, discos, the homosexual lifestyle. I was very, very sexually promiscuous. It is the providence of God that I, at age 47, am HIV free."

As a registered nurse he volunteered to care for 100 men who died of AIDS before he stopped counting. Quinlan went to their funerals, reading their favorite Bible verses.

He joined the Human Rights Campaign, responsible for raising tens of thousands of dollars for one of the largest and most effective lobbies in Washington, which persuaded Congress to invest in AIDS research. "They taught me how to lobby. But what the devil trained me to do, God can use for His glory," he told pastors.

Quinlan started watching the 700 Club.

At first, he wanted to "reach through the set and strangle Pat Robertson. But he saw an ex-gay on the show who shared how he left the lifestyle. "EX-GAY?" he asked himself. "How is that possible? But I hated my life. There is pleasure in sin for a season, but I wanted out."

He called a Christian friend across the country and asked him to lead him in making a re- commitment to Christ. When Quinlan prayed the sinner's prayer, "I had peace." He started going to church.

At age 35, Greg's father, who was dying due to smoking, asked his son, the RN, to care for him. One day Greg told his dad, "I can't be here tomorrow, due to work." His father who had undergone a deathbed conversion, replied, "That's OK. I love you, Greg."

He was stunned. Prompted by a nurse, he replied, "I love you too, Dad." He died the next day. When Greg started on a path of truly forgiving his father, his anger and bitterness left - along with his homosexual desires. "I had a lot of reason to be angry. Three-quarters of gays were molested at an early age, like me. Now sex education is telling kids, homosexuality is normal."

He started a ministry in Dayton, the Pro Family Network, which lobbied for passage of Ohio's one man, one woman Marriage Amendment. He's been on the 700 Club four times, with his wife. As a result, he has received death threats, which frighten her.

He answers gay critics who charge that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality: "Look at Matthew 19, in answer to the Pharisees. Jesus replies, 'Haven't you heard, at the beginning, the Creator made them male and female.' Stop there. Not Adam and Steve, or Eve and Edith, but man and woman. 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, and the two will become one.' They had sex. That's how we all got here. Jesus is quoting Genesis, and he can because he was there," he says to applause.

"There is no biological evidence, not one repeatable study, not a single genetic test that gives any validity to homosexual behavior as a "born" trait. No one is born Gay, no one! Homosexuality is an emotional disorder, a pathology that can be and has been effectively changed when a person is highly motivated."

A woman once challenged him: "If we find a gay gene, then you will have to accept it."

"No, I won't," he countered. "Last week I heard they discovered a gene that causes hereditary breast cancer. You think that if there is a gay gene, homosexuals should embrace their homosexuality.

Then she should accept her cancer, and embrace it. NO! That's nonsense. If diabetes has a gene, we seek to cure it. If there is a gay gene, let's work to cure it."

"Remember Scripture, 'Such were some of you.' It is a changeable behavior."


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And I bet he watches gay porn on the internet, and dreams about the guy who works at Starbucks.