The Right Wing's Lies About Most Everything

[teapartysamurai]

The best military leaders are those who can win without firing a shot. Considering Reagan beat the Soviets without firing a shot, it puts him in a very strong position in my book.

Besides, it's not the right wing that lies about Reagan being a hawk. It's the left.

Sorry, let us give credit where credit is due. Solidarity weakened resistance to change in Poland. They led the way for another revolution against the Soviet Eastern Europe block puppet governments.

And you think That would have done a thing without Reagan driving the Soviet Union into defeat via the arms race?

I'm sorry but if Reagan had given in on "Star Wars" and the "B-1b" the Soviet Union would have sailed through just fine.

Reagan forced them to keep spending on the Arms race to the point, they simply could not keep up, and thus they crashed.

Glastnost and the rest did not push down the Soviet Union, THEY WERE A RESULT OF REAGAN WEAKENING THE SOVIET UNION.

 

[onecut39]

I remember Reagan. Lord do I remember Reagan!

It has since been verified that the Republican organization did indeed contact Iran and arranged the "october surprise" That, my friend is the definition of treason.

Lied to congress, lied to the people (on television), spent three times as much as was spent in all American history and then called the democrats "big spenders".

Cut taxes once. Raised them 11 times and became know as the great "tax cutter".

Truly one of the shallowest presidents in our history but he was a likeable guy.

The "teflon" president, nothing ever stuck.

Oh yes, I remember him well.

 

[freedombecki]

Reagan defeated the USSR and collapsed their empire, he left them no choice but to complete their takeover of the Democrat Party

You are correct.

 

[Buford]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

Looks like someone is lost in a time warp. Shhhhhhh, don't wake him up.

 

[teapartysamurai]

During Reagan the populace was still anti war from Nam.
Reagan played covert war, which was the cold war version of political control or influence.
He also declared war on drugs which increased governemnt.
Many in the world did not want war but wr was brought to us through the terorrorists, so reagan went after them.
Reagan was not affraid toof war(he was in WWII as a soldier), and he like Obama used their power to fight the world that wants us dead.

Brush up on your history.....................


Who Started the War on Drugs? « The Reality-Based Community

Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.

Are you trying to tell us that there was no fight againt and all those drugs were legal before Nixon????????



What the hell history book are YOU reading??????

 

[Moonglow]

During Reagan the populace was still anti war from Nam.
Reagan played covert war, which was the cold war version of political control or influence.
He also declared war on drugs which increased governemnt.
Many in the world did not want war but wr was brought to us through the terorrorists, so reagan went after them.
Reagan was not affraid toof war(he was in WWII as a soldier), and he like Obama used their power to fight the world that wants us dead.

Are you an idiot?

If that was true Reagan would have lost in 1980 and/or 1984, because Vietnam was how the libs kept attacking Reagan.

"Oh he will get us into another war!" They did everything but put out the "Daisy Ad" again!

It DIDN'T WORK!

Reagan won in LANDSLIDES! And yet he was "afraid" of the American people?

The people were so behind Reagan, the media called it the "Teflon Effect."

Aka, all the ludicrous accusations the Democrts and the media ran against Reagan DIDN'T WORK because the people were solidly behind him.

Like I said, you libs can keep reinventing history, I'll keep laughing and pointing out you are lying!

Three things got Reagan elected,
1.The recession and hyperinflation
2. US embassy hostages taken and the failed rescue attempt.
3. The failed Carter administration.
I voted for reagan so i know all about what was going on. Like "where's the beef!?
and the first female presidential contender.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Reagan defeated the USSR and collapsed their empire, he left them no choice but to complete their takeover of the Democrat Party

The only point I'll argue here is that it was Reagan, or the US that caused the collapse of the USSR. The USSR collapsed because communism/socialism aren't economic viabilities. They stretched themselves so thin that they withdrew from Afghan because of bankruptcy and the inability to continue their ways.

Otherwise, the rest is true. Communists took over the democrats, but AI think it was happeneing back in the 40s and was completed by the 80s. Evidence shows now that most democrats are nothing short of socialist morons.

Something we agree on entirely!

 

[auditor0007]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

Reagan was a very good President mostly for reasons that run contrary to our image of him. While he did lower the top tax rates, which were too high at the time, he also raised taxes after that when he saw that the tax cuts went too far and were not increasing revenues. He also worked extremely well with the Dems in Congress, but that was in great part due to the fact that Tip O'Neil had the country's best interest at heart rather than trying to railroad the President as Boehner and the Republicans have done to Obama.

 

[teapartysamurai]

I remember Reagan. Lord do I remember Reagan!

It has since been verified that the Republican organization did indeed contact Iran and arranged the "october surprise" That, my friend is the definition of treason.

Lied to congress, lied to the people (on television), spent three times as much as was spent in all American history and then called the democrats "big spenders".

Cut taxes once. Raised them 11 times and became know as the great "tax cutter".

Truly one of the shallowest presidents in our history but he was a likeable guy.

The "teflon" president, nothing ever stuck.

Oh yes, I remember him well.

It's been verified how?

In your delusional memory?

 

[teapartysamurai]

During Reagan the populace was still anti war from Nam.
Reagan played covert war, which was the cold war version of political control or influence.
He also declared war on drugs which increased governemnt.
Many in the world did not want war but wr was brought to us through the terorrorists, so reagan went after them.
Reagan was not affraid toof war(he was in WWII as a soldier), and he like Obama used their power to fight the world that wants us dead.

Are you an idiot?

If that was true Reagan would have lost in 1980 and/or 1984, because Vietnam was how the libs kept attacking Reagan.

"Oh he will get us into another war!" They did everything but put out the "Daisy Ad" again!

It DIDN'T WORK!

Reagan won in LANDSLIDES! And yet he was "afraid" of the American people?

The people were so behind Reagan, the media called it the "Teflon Effect."

Aka, all the ludicrous accusations the Democrts and the media ran against Reagan DIDN'T WORK because the people were solidly behind him.

Like I said, you libs can keep reinventing history, I'll keep laughing and pointing out you are lying!

Three things got Reagan elected,
1.The recession and hyperinflation
2. US embassy hostages taken and the failed rescue attempt.
3. The failed Carter administration.
I voted for reagan so i know all about what was going on. Like "where's the beef!?
and the first female presidential contender.

Yeah, Reagan had nothing to run on in 1984. Keep running with that!

If you will recall, HE WON IN A BIGGER LANDSLIDE IN '84!

DUH!

 

[freedombecki]

During Reagan the populace was still anti war from Nam.
Reagan played covert war, which was the cold war version of political control or influence.
He also declared war on drugs which increased governemnt.
Many in the world did not want war but wr was brought to us through the terorrorists, so reagan went after them.
Reagan was not affraid toof war(he was in WWII as a soldier), and he like Obama used their power to fight the world that wants us dead.

Brush up on your history.....................

Who Started the War on Drugs? « The Reality-Based Community

Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.

Reagan instituted the JUST SAY NO policy. He expanded it to the idea that people should take responsibility for whether they start or avoid drug use.

Of course, developing character is a real blight to some.

 

[Buford]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

Reagan was a very good President mostly for reasons that run contrary to our image of him. While he did lower the top tax rates, which were too high at the time, he also raised taxes after that when he saw that the tax cuts went too far and were not increasing revenues. He also worked extremely well with the Dems in Congress, but that was in great part due to the fact that Tip O'Neil had the country's best interest at heart rather than trying to railroad the President as Boehner and the Republicans have done to Obama.

Are you going to vote for Obama?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The best military leaders are those who can win without firing a shot. Considering Reagan beat the Soviets without firing a shot, it puts him in a very strong position in my book.

Besides, it's not the right wing that lies about Reagan being a hawk. It's the left.

Reagan beat the Soviets?

Reagan was not a military leader. D'Oh!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Brush up on your history.....................

Who Started the War on Drugs? « The Reality-Based Community

Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.

Reagan instituted the JUST SAY NO policy. He expanded it to the idea that people should take responsibility for whether they start or avoid drug use.

Of course, developing character is a real blight to some.

Another reason liberals hate Reagan.

(But it was Nancy that did the "just say no") Sorry, but had to add that little correction.

 

[Moonglow]

Brush up on your history.....................


Who Started the War on Drugs? « The Reality-Based Community

Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.

Are you trying to tell us that there was no fight againt and all those drugs were legal before Nixon????????



What the hell history book are YOU reading??????

Yes they did, but not to the degree that Reagan allowed, along with his rules to judges on how to prosecute and what degree of punishment was to be given was dictated by him.
Reagan pushed the limits of the Constitution and he and his SCOTUS allowed the right to privacy to be infringed.
Reagan military buildup was a paper tiger military. During that period is when I served 1982-1988, we had no shelf stock to repair equipment, because we were operating on a shoe string budget.

 

[auditor0007]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

Oh, because a liberal reinvents history, that makes it true!

Too bad there are too many of us, that remember those days, and it was LIBERALS who were terrified of war.

Every five minutes they were wringing their hands that Reagan would get us into a war.

Now you want to lie to people who were born after those times and tell them, it never happened???

Yeah, well keep trying!

Remember when Reagan made the joke in his Christmas Radio speech that he had just declared the Soviet Union illegal and the bombs start dropping in five minutes? Then he said, "Just kidding!"

I laughed my butt off. That sound like a man afraid of war?

The Democrats actually made an attack ad over it, claiming this proved Reagan was blood thirsty for war.

IT FAILED!

Go take your lies and SIT DOWN!

No one believes them except Obamabots who feed on lies, and people too young to remember Reagan AND MOST OF THEM DON'T VOTE ANYWAY!

I think you both are kind of missing the point. Reagan believed in walking with a big stick. If forced to use it then use it, but the idea was simply to use the big stick to prevent anyone from fucking with you so you didn't have to use it in the first place. Luckily it worked out well for Reagan. Had it been a different time, things might have been different.

 

[Moonglow]

Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.

Reagan instituted the JUST SAY NO policy. He expanded it to the idea that people should take responsibility for whether they start or avoid drug use.

Of course, developing character is a real blight to some.

Another reason liberals hate Reagan.

(But it was Nancy that did the "just say no") Sorry, but had to add that little correction.

And since bothh were Hollyweird elites(repubs name), they used their position to blacklist and kill careers that anyway joked or advocated sub-culture values.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

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A whopper of a lie like that, deserves a neg rep!

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teapartysamurai

facts are lies now?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

Looks like someone is lost in a time warp. Shhhhhhh, don't wake him up.

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[Full-Auto]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

Reagan was a very good President mostly for reasons that run contrary to our image of him. While he did lower the top tax rates, which were too high at the time, he also raised taxes after that when he saw that the tax cuts went too far and were not increasing revenues. He also worked extremely well with the Dems in Congress, but that was in great part due to the fact that Tip O'Neil had the country's best interest at heart rather than trying to railroad the President as Boehner and the Republicans have done to Obama.

Yes we will just ignore that democrats lied repeatedly to Reagan, or that democrats soured the political scene... Will you guys run off when SS needs to be addressed? That is your history.......