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The best military leaders are those who can win without firing a shot. Considering Reagan beat the Soviets without firing a shot, it puts him in a very strong position in my book.
Besides, it's not the right wing that lies about Reagan being a hawk. It's the left.
Reagan beat the Soviets?
Reagan was not a military leader. D'Oh!
Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:
What a joke.
Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....
In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."
Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy
Oh, because a liberal reinvents history, that makes it true!
Too bad there are too many of us, that remember those days, and it was LIBERALS who were terrified of war.
Every five minutes they were wringing their hands that Reagan would get us into a war.
Now you want to lie to people who were born after those times and tell them, it never happened???
Yeah, well keep trying!
Remember when Reagan made the joke in his Christmas Radio speech that he had just declared the Soviet Union illegal and the bombs start dropping in five minutes? Then he said, "Just kidding!"
I laughed my butt off. That sound like a man afraid of war?
The Democrats actually made an attack ad over it, claiming this proved Reagan was blood thirsty for war.
IT FAILED!
Go take your lies and SIT DOWN!
No one believes them except Obamabots who feed on lies, and people too young to remember Reagan AND MOST OF THEM DON'T VOTE ANYWAY!
I think you both are kind of missing the point. Reagan believed in walking with a big stick. If forced to use it then use it, but the idea was simply to use the big stick to prevent anyone from fucking with you so you didn't have to use it in the first place. Luckily it worked out well for Reagan. Had it been a different time, things might have been different.
The best military leaders are those who can win without firing a shot. Considering Reagan beat the Soviets without firing a shot, it puts him in a very strong position in my book.
Besides, it's not the right wing that lies about Reagan being a hawk. It's the left.
Reagan beat the Soviets?
Reagan was not a military leader. D'Oh!
Apparently Dante is too stupid, too ignorant, or trying very hard to forget the Cold War, as it went through Truman's "Containment," Ford's "Detente" and finally Reagan's "Spending 'em into hell!"
But SORRY! There are those of us who were born under and grew up during the Cold War.
We REMEMBER ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE! The old push of that cartoon was to make fun of the Cold War. Something that anyone who watches it now, and didn't live durng the Cold War will miss.
And if anyone would have told me (in the 60s) that I would see a day when the Soviet Union was not pointing missles at us, I would not have believed them.
REAGAN MADE THAT A REALITY.
You can protest (too much) otherwise, but your protests will fall on too well informed ears.
The GOP would cease to exist if they stopped lying.
Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.
Are you trying to tell us that there was no fight againt and all those drugs were legal before Nixon????????
What the hell history book are YOU reading??????
Yes they did, but not to the degree that Reagan allowed, along with his rules to judges on how to prosecute and what degree of punishment was to be given was dictated by him.
Reagan pushed the limits of the Constitution and he and his SCOTUS allowed the right to privacy to be infringed.
Reagan military buildup was a paper tiger military. During that period is when I served 1982-1988, we had no shelf stock to repair equipment, because we were operating on a shoe string budget.
Reagan defeated the USSR and collapsed their empire, he left them no choice but to complete their takeover of the Democrat Party
The only point I'll argue here is that it was Reagan, or the US that caused the collapse of the USSR. The USSR collapsed because communism/socialism aren't economic viabilities. They stretched themselves so thin that they withdrew from Afghan because of bankruptcy and the inability to continue their ways.
Otherwise, the rest is true. Communists took over the democrats, but AI think it was happeneing back in the 40s and was completed by the 80s. Evidence shows now that most democrats are nothing short of socialist morons.
Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:
What a joke.
Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....
In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."
Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy
Oh, because a liberal reinvents history, that makes it true!
Too bad there are too many of us, that remember those days, and it was LIBERALS who were terrified of war.
Every five minutes they were wringing their hands that Reagan would get us into a war.
Now you want to lie to people who were born after those times and tell them, it never happened???
Yeah, well keep trying!
Remember when Reagan made the joke in his Christmas Radio speech that he had just declared the Soviet Union illegal and the bombs start dropping in five minutes? Then he said, "Just kidding!"
I laughed my butt off. That sound like a man afraid of war?
The Democrats actually made an attack ad over it, claiming this proved Reagan was blood thirsty for war.
IT FAILED!
Go take your lies and SIT DOWN!
No one believes them except Obamabots who feed on lies, and people too young to remember Reagan AND MOST OF THEM DON'T VOTE ANYWAY!
I think you both are kind of missing the point. Reagan believed in walking with a big stick. If forced to use it then use it, but the idea was simply to use the big stick to prevent anyone from fucking with you so you didn't have to use it in the first place. Luckily it worked out well for Reagan. Had it been a different time, things might have been different.
Reagan instituted the JUST SAY NO policy. He expanded it to the idea that people should take responsibility for whether they start or avoid drug use.Brush up on your history.....................
Who Started the War on Drugs? « The Reality-Based Community
Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.
Of course, developing character is a real blight to some.
The best military leaders are those who can win without firing a shot. Considering Reagan beat the Soviets without firing a shot, it puts him in a very strong position in my book.
Besides, it's not the right wing that lies about Reagan being a hawk. It's the left.
Reagan beat the Soviets?
Reagan was not a military leader. D'Oh!
Reagan instituted the JUST SAY NO policy. He expanded it to the idea that people should take responsibility for whether they start or avoid drug use.Nixon started the war on drugs, but Reagan greatly expanded it. Reagan is the one that decided that we did not have all those rights to privacy we so loved before he took office.
Of course, developing character is a real blight to some.
He also started three stikes which to me is unconstitutional and a waste of taxpayers monies. He believed in the police state which is what the USA is still working on and is almost there.
Reagan instituted the JUST SAY NO policy. He expanded it to the idea that people should take responsibility for whether they start or avoid drug use.
Of course, developing character is a real blight to some.
Another reason liberals hate Reagan.
(But it was Nancy that did the "just say no") Sorry, but had to add that little correction.
And since bothh were Hollyweird elites(repubs name), they used their position to blacklist and kill careers that anyway joked or advocated sub-culture values.
And if anyone would have told me (in the 60s) that I would see a day when the Soviet Union was not pointing missles at us, I would not have believed them.
REAGAN MADE THAT A REALITY.
obama should run against Reagan, that will work.
Running against Bush has run out of steam.
Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:
What a joke.
Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....
In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."
Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy
What?
New reputation!
Hi, you have received -368 reputation points from teapartysamurai.
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A whopper of a lie like that, deserves a neg rep!
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facts are lies now?
Yes we will just ignore that democrats lied repeatedly to Reagan, or that democrats soured the political scene...
Oh, because a liberal reinvents history, that makes it true!
Too bad there are too many of us, that remember those days, and it was LIBERALS who were terrified of war.
Every five minutes they were wringing their hands that Reagan would get us into a war.
Now you want to lie to people who were born after those times and tell them, it never happened???
Yeah, well keep trying!
Remember when Reagan made the joke in his Christmas Radio speech that he had just declared the Soviet Union illegal and the bombs start dropping in five minutes? Then he said, "Just kidding!"
I laughed my butt off. That sound like a man afraid of war?
The Democrats actually made an attack ad over it, claiming this proved Reagan was blood thirsty for war.
IT FAILED!
Go take your lies and SIT DOWN!
No one believes them except Obamabots who feed on lies, and people too young to remember Reagan AND MOST OF THEM DON'T VOTE ANYWAY!
I think you both are kind of missing the point. Reagan believed in walking with a big stick. If forced to use it then use it, but the idea was simply to use the big stick to prevent anyone from fucking with you so you didn't have to use it in the first place. Luckily it worked out well for Reagan. Had it been a different time, things might have been different.
IS that why reagan illegally traded with Iran?
Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:
What a joke.
Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....
In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."
Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy
What?
New reputation!
Hi, you have received -368 reputation points from teapartysamurai.
Reputation was given for this post.
Comment:
A whopper of a lie like that, deserves a neg rep!
Regards,
teapartysamurai
facts are lies now?