The presidential primary is out of loop no quesion about it as are some candidates

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    Is this any way to pick a presidential candidate for any party? I think not. The majority of states are left out of the process. How is that legitimate?

    Is Iowa out of the loop? Yes Is the entire system out of the loop? Yes

    Our government is always claiming the USA is about democracy. In that case allow the citizens to practice democracy by allowing citizens to vote on these issues in 2012:

    Let's demand a new system and vote in Fair Vote America : FairVote.org | Instant Runoff Voting
    Demand a change on the next ballot.

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    Let's have public financing of campaigns. Citizens cannot afford special interest money campaigns for it is the citizens that get left out. Let citizens vote on this issue.
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    A rotating primary system makes the most sense. A national primary would be too expensive, and the MSM would pick the winner. As it is now, the "establishment" candidates are put in a safe state and the MSM declares the winner. The USSC already said that money is free-speech, so public funding is a non-starter.
    I've seen primaries & conventions since Nixon, and they are always the same. The GOP's are boring and the dem's are a zoo.
     
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    Fair Vote and Public Finance could be put to a vote. The supreme court has no authority on this aspect.

    Should voters approve would the law of the land which likely frightens the leadership of both parties. After all leadership of both parties authorized a private corp to write the rules for debates which should be challenged.

    Let the people call the shots!
     
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    I see a lot of words but no coherent ideas. Please back-up whatever it is you are trying to say.
     
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    "The USSC already said that money is free-speech, so public funding is a non-starter."

    I disagree completely. Let the voters decide !

    We do not know the expense a national primary. It is hard to believe it could be anymore expensive if regulated. Public Finance would limit spending which is good.
     
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    What is lacking is continuity. All states should be governed by the same rules etc etc
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    The time has almost come for all eyes to turn to Iowa and the rest of the states as they begin to hold their caucuses and primaries leading up to the 2012 election. But the world of primaries and caucuses is one of confusion, centering on party rules and overlapping state laws. My recent update of the Congressional and Presidential Primaries page on our website showed me just how complicated open, closed, semi-closed, and everything in between could be.

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    Public funding makes no sense. If I want to run for president, do I get $10m to start?
     
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    Public funding takes the government out of corporate special interests hands therefore the people get the government back. As it should be.
     
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    Fair Elections is a practical, proven reform that puts voters in control of elections.

    Rather than being forced to rely on special interest donors to pay for their campaigns, candidates have the opportunity to raise small donations from their grassroots base to qualify for Fair Elections funding, which ends their reliance on special interest campaign cash.

    Being freed from the money chase means they have more time to spend with constituents, talking about issues that matter to them. When they enter office, they can consider legislation on the merits, without worrying about whether they are pleasing well heeled donors and lobbyists.

    Fair Elections would return our government to one that is of, by, and for the people¬ónot bought and paid for by special interests.

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    Every vote cast in every election should be of equal value, regardless of where a voter lives or for whom they vote. Popular will should never be subject to overturning by illogical, anachronistic mechanisms divorced from the ideal of one person, one vote. Nor should our system be such that candidates can win single-seat offices despite being opposed by the majority.

    Americans deserve a system in which a diversity of voices can be part of the debate without fear of "spoiling" an election; one that is transparent, accountable and honors equality and majority rule.

    Learn more about FairVote-backed reforms that facilitate fair elections:
    National Popular Vote for President

    The Electoral College system causes candidates for president to focus all their resources and attention on a small fraction of the electorate, rendering the vast majority of the American population utterly irrelevant in presidential elections.

    Direct election of the president is the only way to ensure that every vote counts equally, and to that end, FairVote supports the National Popular Vote plan for president.

    Learn more about the National Popular Vote Plan.


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