Zone1 The Pope slams American Catholics as backward

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Pope says some 'backward' conservatives in US Catholic Church have replaced faith with ideology

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church. He says they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

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The Pope has just come out and proclaimed that American Catholics are backward in relation to their opposition to such things as abortion and sex and gender. He says that their ideology has replaced their faith and also says that American Catholics that have attacked him in the past, says it was an honor to be their object of scorn.

Perhaps this is why the Catholic church has not come down hard on pedophile priests within the church. We are confronted about every day regarding a pedophile abusing a child in the news, so perhaps those that oppose such behavior are now backward and not going along with the common morals of our time. In fact, in ancient Sparta and Greece, all men took on under aged boy lovers.

I think the Catholic church at least should come out and redefine such things as abortion as not being murder. That is the least they could do, unless, being opposed to murder is now backward. Then again, with people dancing in the streets all over the world in celebration of Hamas slaughtering Jews, perhaps it is now hip to murder.

I dunno, only the Pope has such moral clarity, so ask him.

 

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Pope says some 'backward' conservatives in US Catholic Church have replaced faith with ideology

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church. He says they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

apnews.com

The Pope has just come out and proclaimed that American Catholics are backward in relation to their opposition to such things as abortion and sex and gender. He says that their ideology has replaced their faith and also says that American Catholics that have attacked him in the past, says it was an honor to be their object of scorn.

Perhaps this is why the Catholic church has not come down hard on pedophile priests within the church. We are confronted about every day regarding a pedophile abusing a child in the news, so perhaps those that oppose such behavior are now backward and not going along with the common morals of our time. In fact, in ancient Sparta and Greece, all men took on under aged boy lovers.

Most American Catholics don't like the Pope getting involved in politics.

 

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Most American Catholics don't like the Pope getting involved in politics.

But the Catholics around the rest of the world are Ok with this?

That is the message I get from this article.

Why do you think that is?

 

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But the Catholics around the rest of the world are Ok with this?

That is the message I get from this article.

Why do you think that is?

American Catholics prefer a religious message.

 

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American Catholics prefer a religious message.

Wut?

Wut do other Catholics like? Under aged boys and murdering the unborn while having gay sex?

 

[luiza]

Fascinating to see Cult Christianity in its slow Death Spiral .

When I learned that this Pope would be the last a few years ago , I must admit I thought it an unlikely occurrence .
Now , with new information flooding in ( not this incident) I understand that the next few months will see the death blow being administered .

To my great satisfaction though Cognitively Rigid people will find it shattering -- literally .

 

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Wut?

Wut do other Catholics like? Under aged boys and murdering the unborn while having gay sex?

Don't act like an asshole.

 

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The Catholic church certainly was not backward during the reign of the National Socialists of Germany.

They got hip real quick. See the priests give the Hitler solute to preserve their wealth at the Vatican and save their very lives?

Should the Pope have publicly condemned the Holocaust? Nope, not going to be tied down by ideology.

Too rigid.

 

[Votto]

Fascinating to see Cult Christianity in its slow Death Spiral .

When I learned that this Pope would be the last a few years ago , I must admit I thought it an unlikely occurrence .
Now , with new information flooding in ( not this incident) I understand that the next few months will see the death blow being administered .

To my great satisfaction though Cognitively Rigid people will find it shattering -- literally .

Those opposed to God are in a death spiral.

If the Catholic church experiences a death spiral, then it is because it is opposed to God.

The Pope has no power in this regard.

Looking at places like Europe, the Pope and his church certainly are in a death spiral.

If the church has nothing to offer apart from and has nothing to offer than people have to offer apart from God, they have nothing to offer the world. As such, they become useless.

 

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I will repeat, the Pope needs to come clean regarding the Church's position on such things as abortion

Is it really infanticide like the official teaching or now something different now?

To lambast conservative Catholics for being too rigid is unfair since opposing murder should be a rigid stance for everyone, but especially people who claim to be followers of Christ.

The Pope is a coward for not changing the official church position on such things as abortion, and is equally unfair to those who oppose what their own church purports to be murder.

This is insane.

 

[MarathonMike]

Pope says some 'backward' conservatives in US Catholic Church have replaced faith with ideology

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church. He says they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

apnews.com

The Pope has just come out and proclaimed that American Catholics are backward in relation to their opposition to such things as abortion and sex and gender. He says that their ideology has replaced their faith and also says that American Catholics that have attacked him in the past, says it was an honor to be their object of scorn.

Perhaps this is why the Catholic church has not come down hard on pedophile priests within the church. We are confronted about every day regarding a pedophile abusing a child in the news, so perhaps those that oppose such behavior are now backward and not going along with the common morals of our time. In fact, in ancient Sparta and Greece, all men took on under aged boy lovers.

I think the Catholic church at least should come out and redefine such things as abortion as not being murder. That is the least they could do, unless, being opposed to murder is now backward. Then again, with people dancing in the streets all over the world in celebration of Hamas slaughtering Jews, perhaps it is now hip to murder.

I dunno, only the Pope has such moral clarity, so ask him.

The Catholic "Church" a.k.a global mega corporation free from taxes has now become a political tool for the Left. Thanks to the slobbering Pope-a-Dope, Catholics now have to deal with his Leftist political bias.

 

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The Catholic "Church" a.k.a global mega corporation free from taxes has now become a political tool for the Left. Thanks to the slobbering Pope-a-Dope, Catholics now have to deal with his Leftist political bias.

They have succumb to the Left, just like they did with the National Socialists.

It is scary standing up to evil, like the early church did as they got thrown to the lions. But perhaps Christianity is not really Christianity unless people are getting thrown to the lions because they have courage to stand up to evil. Like Jesus said, if they hated me, they will hate you and treat you the same.

Some things never change.

 

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The message of Jesus was offensive.

Only through him is the path to God?

I don't think that is what the Pope believes.

In fact, I don't think that is what most Catholics believe.

I think the 2 things the Pope is most concerned with is Climate Change and Trump.

That is it.

 

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Catholics, what makes someone or something backward?

Is being outside the societal norm make one backward?

The Pople will ever define the words he uses, so it is up to us to do it for him.

 

[luiza]

Those opposed to God are in a death spiral.

If the Catholic church experiences a death spiral, then it is because it is opposed to God.

The Pope has no power in this regard.

Looking at places like Europe, the Pope and his church certainly are in a death spiral.

If the church has nothing to offer apart from and has nothing to offer than people have to offer apart from God, they have nothing to offer the world. As such, they become useless.

Time will show .
You started to go wrong when they deliberately mistranslated the Hebrew :-
God made Man in his image .
The correct translation is :-
God made Man in OUR image .

I leave it there because you are locked into your belief and , imho , will shortly have to learn the hard and painful way .
But there will be quite a number of shattered people . So you can all have a jolly good cathartic weep together .

BTW, The word God is the Hebrew , Elohim . It is better that you do not know its derivation . Suffice to say that you are in for a huge shock .

 

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Time will show .
You started to go wrong when they deliberately mistranslated the Hebrew :-
God made Man in his image .
The correct translation is :-
God made Man in OUR image .

I leave it there because you are locked into your belief and , imho , will shortly have to learn the hard and painful way .
But there will be quite a number of shattered people . So you can all have a jolly good cathartic weep together .

BTW, The word God is the Hebrew , Elohim . It is better that you do not know its derivation . Suffice to say that you are in for a huge shock .

I am not Catholic, never have been.

Why do you say I did such things?

The Catholic church used to teach people could buy their way out of Purgatory for Christ's sake.

They have a long list of heretical teachings.

It appears that according to the Pope, all one has to do in order to be saved is become a Leftist.

 

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Most American Catholics don't like the Pope getting involved in politics.

Yeah, he refuses to subscribe to the hate they like to spread.

 

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But the Catholics around the rest of the world are Ok with this?

That is the message I get from this article.

Why do you think that is?

Because American catholics are backwards?

 

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Because American catholics are backwards?

What makes someone backward?

Is it being in the minority, or is it just not agreeing with you?

 

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Yeah, he refuses to subscribe to the hate they like to spread.

The Pope says building walls is hateful. Is building walls hateful?

Encouraging illegals to make the dangerous journey that kills God only knows how many and then bus them from red state to blue state to red state and back again is what I think is hateful.

But really, Texas is the one state that takes the biggest beating. The blue states have supported this unfettered immigration across the board as they first come to states like Texas, but then welcome them in sanctuary cities until a few thousand get there, then all of a sudden they declare a state of emergency and tell them to no longer come? Meanwhile, Texas takes in millions at a time and are suppose to just shut the hell up and like it.

If the border was secure, then voters would have the power to determine immigration policy. But the Left detests democracy. so they don't allow voters to have any control over it.

Nehemiah built walls around Jerusalem so that the Jews could return and live in peace. What he hateful? If he was, God must have been as well cuz he told him to build those walls.