The GOP has a stable of potential winners, the Dems have one old mare

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing
They still are...

Banks were defaulting
That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.
It was FREEFALL headed to depression

Obama stopped it

NOoooo... It was an economic collapse due to unsound economic policy.

If they had simply let it collapse, the businesses that had adopted the fatally flawed policy would have perished. The assets of those flawed enterprises would have been purchased by enterprises operating upon sound principle, which would have established the correction that follows such failures.

We've done the 'let water find its own level' approach. The result was the Great Depression. We interceded in this economic downturn and had our economy growing again in about a year.

Instead, the collapse was forestalled by more unsound economic policy, which has precluded the potential for the necessary correction. As a result, the delay has sapped essential resources, precluding the potential for the correction... thus the collapse, when the markets can no longer sustain the debt that the aforementioned policy has produced, will be total... ruinous and beyond your means to so much as imagine.

Thank you... you idiots have completely fucked us.

Says you, citing you. And your source sucks.
 
Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing
They still are...

Banks were defaulting
That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

What is it with conservatives and their various Armageddon fetishes? Its like they are emotionally invested in the collapse of America.

What happened to old school conservatives that you could always count on to laud our country and stand by her?

LOL! Poor Skylar. Here to demand that consequences are an archaic construct of a patriarchal society, designed to keep the lesbian down.

You're the one predicting economic collapse....civil collapse....the destruction of society.....'whiteville' attacking 'blacktown'.......the wholesale slaughter of gays......civil war.

Not me.

Too many conservatives have fetishized their fantasies of economic and civil calamity in the US. They seem almost....disappointed when none of it actually happens.

No... I am merely pointing out the obvious to simpletons incapable of seeing what is directly in front of 'em.

It's not even remotely debatable. With your pitiful need to deny it, notwithstanding.
 
Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing
They still are...

Banks were defaulting
That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

What is it with conservatives and their various Armageddon fetishes? Its like they are emotionally invested in the collapse of America.

What happened to old school conservatives that you could always count on to laud our country and stand by her?

LOL! Poor Skylar. Here to demand that consequences are an archaic construct of a patriarchal society, designed to keep the lesbian down.

You're the one predicting economic collapse....civil collapse....the destruction of society.....'whiteville' attacking 'blacktown'.......the wholesale slaughter of gays......civil war.

Not me.

Too many conservatives have fetishized their fantasies of economic and civil calamity in the US. They seem almost....disappointed when none of it actually happens.

No... I am merely pointing out the obvious to simpletons incapable of seeing what is directly in front of 'em.

It's not even remotely debatable. With your pitiful need to deny it, notwithstanding.

You're offering your baseless personal opinion backed by nothing but more opinion. And you citing yourself on the 'future' has no objective value. As you have no idea what you're talking about.

There's no indication of a civil war. Or gays being slaughtered in mass. Or the economic collapse porn that you apparently use as bathroom reading material.

To your apparent disappointment.
 
Its very amusing to watch the dims twist and turn trying to justify running the old, tired, lying, corrupt, failed bitch HRC. But she is all they have, they have no one else. Its hilarious.

After Republicans nominated HW, HW, Viagra Bob, W, W, McCain and Romney, call me a skeptic as to who they will pick until I see it. The Republican party's inability to pick candidates is the only chance Chillary has. Unfortunately, it's a good chance...
 
As it should have...

Should have been much worse...

They still are...

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

What is it with conservatives and their various Armageddon fetishes? Its like they are emotionally invested in the collapse of America.

What happened to old school conservatives that you could always count on to laud our country and stand by her?

LOL! Poor Skylar. Here to demand that consequences are an archaic construct of a patriarchal society, designed to keep the lesbian down.

You're the one predicting economic collapse....civil collapse....the destruction of society.....'whiteville' attacking 'blacktown'.......the wholesale slaughter of gays......civil war.

Not me.

Too many conservatives have fetishized their fantasies of economic and civil calamity in the US. They seem almost....disappointed when none of it actually happens.

No... I am merely pointing out the obvious to simpletons incapable of seeing what is directly in front of 'em.

It's not even remotely debatable. With your pitiful need to deny it, notwithstanding.

You're offering your baseless personal opinion backed by nothing but more opinion. And you citing yourself on the 'future' has no objective value. As you have no idea what you're talking about.

There's no indication of a civil war. Or gays being slaughtered in mass. Or the economic collapse porn that you apparently use as bathroom reading material.

To your apparent disappointment.

And race relations are better than ever. Did you forget that prognostication?
 
What is it with conservatives and their various Armageddon fetishes? Its like they are emotionally invested in the collapse of America.

What happened to old school conservatives that you could always count on to laud our country and stand by her?

LOL! Poor Skylar. Here to demand that consequences are an archaic construct of a patriarchal society, designed to keep the lesbian down.

You're the one predicting economic collapse....civil collapse....the destruction of society.....'whiteville' attacking 'blacktown'.......the wholesale slaughter of gays......civil war.

Not me.

Too many conservatives have fetishized their fantasies of economic and civil calamity in the US. They seem almost....disappointed when none of it actually happens.

No... I am merely pointing out the obvious to simpletons incapable of seeing what is directly in front of 'em.

It's not even remotely debatable. With your pitiful need to deny it, notwithstanding.

You're offering your baseless personal opinion backed by nothing but more opinion. And you citing yourself on the 'future' has no objective value. As you have no idea what you're talking about.

There's no indication of a civil war. Or gays being slaughtered in mass. Or the economic collapse porn that you apparently use as bathroom reading material.

To your apparent disappointment.

And race relations are better than ever. Did you forget that prognostication?


We're working out the issues rather than ignoring them. And they've been a mother's kiss to the early 90s or mid to late 60s.
 
Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing
They still are...

Banks were defaulting
That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.
It was FREEFALL headed to depression

Obama stopped it

In fairness, Obama and GW. Most of the massive budget deficit that Bush handed Obama was related to many of the same efforts to keep the economy afloat that Obama continued when in office. QE for example began in November of 2008. With the US government stopping several bank collapses after Lehman Brothers went down before Obama took office.

Regardless of how you feel about Bush or the US government intersession in the Great Recession, Bush played a role in mitigating the damage. Obama played a larger one.
My biggest gripe against Bush is why he waited so long. He denied we were in recession until the 2008 recession was over and did not listen to Paulson until the fall of 2008
 
Its very amusing to watch the dims twist and turn trying to justify running the old, tired, lying, corrupt, failed bitch HRC. But she is all they have, they have no one else. Its hilarious.

After Republicans nominated HW, HW, Viagra Bob, W, W, McCain and Romney, call me a skeptic as to who they will pick until I see it. The Republican party's inability to pick candidates is the only chance Chillary has. Unfortunately, it's a good chance...
And the Dems picked a community activist. I'd stop making judgments if I were you.
 
Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing
They still are...

Banks were defaulting
That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.
It was FREEFALL headed to depression

Obama stopped it

NOoooo... It was an economic collapse due to unsound economic policy.

If they had simply let it collapse, the businesses that had adopted the fatally flawed policy would have perished. The assets of those flawed enterprises would have been purchased by enterprises operating upon sound principle, which would have established the correction that follows such failures.

Instead, the collapse was forestalled by more unsound economic policy, which has precluded the potential for the necessary correction. As a result, the delay has sapped essential resources, precluding the potential for the correction... thus the collapse, when the markets can no longer sustain the debt that the aforementioned policy has produced, will be total... ruinous and beyond your means to so much as imagine.

Thank you... you idiots have completely fucked us.
Why we can't elect conservatives

Just let it collapse.....what economic idiocy
 
Sad isn't it?

Republicans have 15-20 candidates and not one is capable of beating an old hag like Hillary

Wow, a year and a half to the election and a conservative stalwart like you has written them off? That is troubling, big guy
 
LOL! Poor Skylar. Here to demand that consequences are an archaic construct of a patriarchal society, designed to keep the lesbian down.

You're the one predicting economic collapse....civil collapse....the destruction of society.....'whiteville' attacking 'blacktown'.......the wholesale slaughter of gays......civil war.

Not me.

Too many conservatives have fetishized their fantasies of economic and civil calamity in the US. They seem almost....disappointed when none of it actually happens.

No... I am merely pointing out the obvious to simpletons incapable of seeing what is directly in front of 'em.

It's not even remotely debatable. With your pitiful need to deny it, notwithstanding.

You're offering your baseless personal opinion backed by nothing but more opinion. And you citing yourself on the 'future' has no objective value. As you have no idea what you're talking about.

There's no indication of a civil war. Or gays being slaughtered in mass. Or the economic collapse porn that you apparently use as bathroom reading material.

To your apparent disappointment.

And race relations are better than ever. Did you forget that prognostication?


We're working out the issues rather than ignoring them. And they've been a mother's kiss to the early 90s or mid to late 60s.

Working out the issues????!!!! Is that what you call Obama and Holders biased interference in community affairs??
 
Its very amusing to watch the dims twist and turn trying to justify running the old, tired, lying, corrupt, failed bitch HRC. But she is all they have, they have no one else. Its hilarious.

After Republicans nominated HW, HW, Viagra Bob, W, W, McCain and Romney, call me a skeptic as to who they will pick until I see it. The Republican party's inability to pick candidates is the only chance Chillary has. Unfortunately, it's a good chance...
And the Dems picked a community activist. I'd stop making judgments if I were you.

Who won ... twice ...

I'd stop making arguments if I were you
 
You're the one predicting economic collapse....civil collapse....the destruction of society.....'whiteville' attacking 'blacktown'.......the wholesale slaughter of gays......civil war.

Not me.

Too many conservatives have fetishized their fantasies of economic and civil calamity in the US. They seem almost....disappointed when none of it actually happens.

No... I am merely pointing out the obvious to simpletons incapable of seeing what is directly in front of 'em.

It's not even remotely debatable. With your pitiful need to deny it, notwithstanding.

You're offering your baseless personal opinion backed by nothing but more opinion. And you citing yourself on the 'future' has no objective value. As you have no idea what you're talking about.

There's no indication of a civil war. Or gays being slaughtered in mass. Or the economic collapse porn that you apparently use as bathroom reading material.

To your apparent disappointment.

And race relations are better than ever. Did you forget that prognostication?


We're working out the issues rather than ignoring them. And they've been a mother's kiss to the early 90s or mid to late 60s.

Working out the issues????!!!! Is that what you call Obama and Holders biased interference in community affairs??

Eric Garner warrants some 'interference'. The man was arrested for nothing.....and killed for it.
 
Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing
They still are...

Banks were defaulting
That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.
The award for the best rationalizing of conservative policy in a thread goes to. ..
 
Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.
That she is not being prosecuted is more evidence of your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

No.. not being prosecuted is literally NOT evidence of innocence. But how ADORABLE is it that you think it is.

The Clintons are in violation of a litany of Federal Law... this is not even debatable.

That she has not been charged and is not being prosecuted for such IS, literally... evidence of a criminal conspiracy within the Federal Executive Branch.
Of course its debatable .
 
We've done the 'let water find its own level' approach. The result was the Great Depression.

No... The Great Depression was the result of policy to avoid 'letting the water find its own level'.

The crash of 21 was technically worse than 29. It simply was not followed with Progressive policy to 'ease the burden'. 18 Months later, the roaring 20s began with unprecedented growth.

Here's the thing about economic law... economies go UP and they come DOWN.

When you reject that law, Economies go down and STAY DOWN. That's where we are now.

Understand, we are presently IN a depression...

You think that because there's no bread line and everything is in color... that this can't be a depression.

The bread lines are everywhere... everywhere that the 45 million people on food stamps, extended unemployment, WIC and the host of other subsidies are standing.

What you're insufficient to understand, is that those monies have precluded the potential for a correction... and they're pissing away, with every dollar taken out what's left of the economy to sustain them, the resources essential to recover.

At some point, the debt that such are creating will be driven beyond the systems means to sustain it and guess that looks like. You need go no further back than 2008 to see what that looks like, except NOW... there's nothing remaining to slow it, modify it, or recover from it.

And like 08 THAT is the CONSEQUENCE of Socialist Policy.

Now, you're a British subject... and the coolest part of all this is that the US will be NIRVANA, compared to the shit-storms you idiots have coming for ya.

We can park our Muslims in one county... when their Welfare dries up and they rise up, we'll erase 'em. When your cult stops getting their checks, they're going to erase YOU.

And ... the best part is... we will have no means to hep ya. But that will only be offset by the total absent of any desire to do so.
 
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Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.
That she is not being prosecuted is more evidence of your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

No.. not being prosecuted is literally NOT evidence of innocence. But how ADORABLE is it that you think it is.

The Clintons are in violation of a litany of Federal Law... this is not even debatable.

That she has not been charged and is not being prosecuted for such IS, literally... evidence of a criminal conspiracy within the Federal Executive Branch.
Of course its debatable .

LOL! Yet, when you had the opportunity to do so, ya chose NOT TO.

Now, I wonder, what SHOULD we make of THAT?
 
Its very amusing to watch the dims twist and turn trying to justify running the old, tired, lying, corrupt, failed bitch HRC. But she is all they have, they have no one else. Its hilarious.

After Republicans nominated HW, HW, Viagra Bob, W, W, McCain and Romney, call me a skeptic as to who they will pick until I see it. The Republican party's inability to pick candidates is the only chance Chillary has. Unfortunately, it's a good chance...
And the Dems picked a community activist. I'd stop making judgments if I were you.

Who won ... twice ...

I'd stop making arguments if I were you
Buying votes is not difficult when you are in the WH. The first time Obama was elected was because people thought that it was time for a black man to become president. Sadly I was one. How foolish to vote for a person for the color of their skin or their sex.

Hopefully, citizens will stop voting on the race or sex but look for the best candidate this nation has to offer. We haven't done that in the last several years. And look at what happened to our country. Who would want to become a police officer after what Obama and Holder have done?
 
Correction. The Democrats have two old white guys with tired old ideas. Hillary and Bernie. Where will we ever find diversity? Oh wait, the Republican candidates.

You are joking - right? List your supposed diversity.

They all are in favor of:
  • Continuing the military empire that is draining us of funds - with the exception of Rand Paul,
  • Continuing the use of fossil fuels that are destroying the planet,
  • Letting the banksters continue to get away with their frauds,
  • No accountability for Wall Street,
  • Signing away American sovereignty to trade agreements like NAFTA and TPP,
  • Making laws to protect corporations from class action lawsuits leaving citizens no recourse,
  • And opening public lands to resource raping.
I guess that's enough for now. Where's the diversity?

Yes, many Democrats are supporting these things too. That's the sad irony. But Bernie talks and acts differently.
 

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