The GOP has a stable of potential winners, the Dems have one old mare

[daws101]

hay RW'S being a governor is not even in the same league as being president ...

Neither is being a senator.

But a governor, unlike a senator, has to make decisions.

false the senate and the house make decisions all the time!
it's their fucking job.
many senators are advisers to the president.
can't GET MUCH BETTER TRAINING FOR THAT OFFICE THAN THE SENATE
ADMIT IT, YOU GUYS GOT JACK SHIT FOR CANDIATES

They vote on bills that go to the governor/president.

The governor/president makes the decision.

Being a senator isn't training for president, when compared to someone that actually had the choice to pass, or veto a bill.

impotent response...

 

[Auld Phart]

hay RW'S being a governor is not even in the same league as being president ...

Neither is being a senator.

But a governor, unlike a senator, has to make decisions.

false the senate and the house make decisions all the time!
it's their fucking job.
many senators are advisers to the president.
can't GET MUCH BETTER TRAINING FOR THAT OFFICE THAN THE SENATE
ADMIT IT, YOU GUYS GOT JACK SHIT FOR CANDIATES

They vote on bills that go to the governor/president.

The governor/president makes the decision.

Being a senator isn't training for president, when compared to someone that actually had the choice to pass, or veto a bill.

impotent response...

Impotent?

funny.

Don't know where you're from, but here in the states, senators don't enact laws. They write them, vote on them, forward them to the governor/president, and THEY decide if they will be enacted or not. If the governor/president decides to veto the bill, the senators, AS A GROUP, can override the veto.

Don't remember a case of 'A' senator enacting a bill.

They work on consensus.

(majority rule)

 

[Jackson]

Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

 

[rightwinger]

Too funny
They just can't admit their shortcomings

Romney was more experienced than Obama...seriously

At actually doing things, running things, accomplishing things------------YES, overwhelmingly.

I know...passing liberal policies isn't really accomplishing anything

More sour grapes from the losing party

our national debt when obozo took over was 10T, it will be 20T when he leaves
there are more in poverty today than in 08
there are more on food stamps than in 08
the gap between rich and poor is larger than in 08
the mideast is a total mess under obozo
the country is more divided than other due to his failed policies
his stooge reid sat on over 300 bills rather than doing his job

those are not sour grapes, they are facts. Deal with it.

Now you are trying...actually trying to talk specifics
I am proud of you

Obama took over an economy that was in freefall. That there continues to be economic instability is a given

Now as to the inequality in the distribution of wealth.....that has been brewing since we embraced supply side economics

the economy was not in "free fall" what a stupid comment.

your hero said he would fix it, he did nothing but make it worse, that is the reality of the obama terms

there will always be rich and poor, the government cannot change that. But, the american system of free interprise is the best method to give everyone who is willing to work a piece of the pie. government mandated income distribution never works, it only helps those doing the distributing.

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points
We were losing 750,000 jobs a month
Auto companies were collapsing
Banks were defaulting
GDP had been negative for five quarters
Housing market collapsed

If that is not free fall, what is?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Its very amusing to watch the dims twist and turn trying to justify running the old, tired, lying, corrupt, failed bitch HRC. But she is all they have, they have no one else. Its hilarious.

The Ideological Left is played out. It's economic policy crashed the economy in 08 and have for seven years since, precluded any potential for a recovery.

The coolest part is that they're literally CELEBRATING that: YOU ELECTED US and IT DIDN'T GET WORSE!

 

[rightwinger]

At actually doing things, running things, accomplishing things------------YES, overwhelmingly.

I know...passing liberal policies isn't really accomplishing anything

More sour grapes from the losing party

our national debt when obozo took over was 10T, it will be 20T when he leaves
there are more in poverty today than in 08
there are more on food stamps than in 08
the gap between rich and poor is larger than in 08
the mideast is a total mess under obozo
the country is more divided than other due to his failed policies
his stooge reid sat on over 300 bills rather than doing his job

those are not sour grapes, they are facts. Deal with it.

Now you are trying...actually trying to talk specifics
I am proud of you

Obama took over an economy that was in freefall. That there continues to be economic instability is a given

Now as to the inequality in the distribution of wealth.....that has been brewing since we embraced supply side economics

the economy was not in "free fall" what a stupid comment.

your hero said he would fix it, he did nothing but make it worse, that is the reality of the obama terms

there will always be rich and poor, the government cannot change that. But, the american system of free interprise is the best method to give everyone who is willing to work a piece of the pie. government mandated income distribution never works, it only helps those doing the distributing.

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points
We were losing 750,000 jobs a month
Auto companies were collapsing
Banks were defaulting
GDP had been negative for five quarters
Housing market collapsed

If that is not free fall, what is?

Obama made it worse?

Stock Market is up 11,000 points
Adding 230,000 jobs a month
Auto companies were saved
Banks repaid loans
GDP up 2-3 percent a quarter
Housing market recovering

That is worse to you?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.

 

[Pete7469]

well duh, how many did obozo have before he was elected?????????? are you as dumb as you seem?

Dumber...

Weapons grade stupid in fact.

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.

That she is not being prosecuted is more evidence of your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing

They still are...

Banks were defaulting

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

 

[rightwinger]

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing

They still are...

Banks were defaulting

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

It was FREEFALL headed to depression

Obama stopped it

 

[Skylar]

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing

They still are...

Banks were defaulting

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

What is it with conservatives and their various Armageddon fetishes? Its like they are emotionally invested in the collapse of America.

What happened to old school conservatives that you could always count on to laud our country and stand by her?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.

That she is not being prosecuted is more evidence of your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

No.. not being prosecuted is literally NOT evidence of innocence. But how ADORABLE is it that you think it is.

The Clintons are in violation of a litany of Federal Law... this is not even debatable.

That she has not been charged and is not being prosecuted for such IS, literally... evidence of a criminal conspiracy within the Federal Executive Branch.

 

[Jackson]

Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.

That she is not being prosecuted is more evidence of your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

The post you replied to answered that question. The corruption is rampant and coverup is in full force.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing

They still are...

Banks were defaulting

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

What is it with conservatives and their various Armageddon fetishes? Its like they are emotionally invested in the collapse of America.

What happened to old school conservatives that you could always count on to laud our country and stand by her?

LOL! Poor Skylar. Here to demand that consequences are an archaic construct of a patriarchal society, designed to keep the lesbian down.

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.

That she is not being prosecuted is more evidence of your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

No.. not being prosecuted is literally NOT evidence of innocence. But how ADORABLE is it that you think it is.

The Clintons are in violation of a litany of Federal Law... this is not even debatable.

That she has not been charged and is not being prosecuted for such IS, literally... evidence of a criminal conspiracy within the Federal Executive Branch.

The old lack of prosecution is evidence of guilt

Can you get any more lame?

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary will find out just how good her percentage points are after the first debate. Hell she can't answer a reporters questions now...what is she going to do when met with actual questions she HAS to answer during a debate? Deep down Hillary is afraid of questions because her answers will be checked and rechecked.

Nope, think HRC is scared and rightly so.

Under any SENSE of Reality... Hillary Clinton would presently be defending herself from Federal Charges ranging from violations of the RICO statutes, to TREASON.

That she is not, is a definitive sign that something well beyond 'corruption' is operating the highest levels of the United States Government.

That she is not being prosecuted is more evidence of your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

The post you replied to answered that question. The corruption is rampant and coverup is in full force.

It's a conspiracy I say...a Damned conspiracy

The right has nothing against the Clinton's but unsubstantiated conspiracies

 

[Skylar]

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing

They still are...

Banks were defaulting

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

It was FREEFALL headed to depression

Obama stopped it

In fairness, Obama and GW. Most of the massive budget deficit that Bush handed Obama was related to many of the same efforts to keep the economy afloat that Obama continued when in office. QE for example began in November of 2008. With the US government stopping several bank collapses after Lehman Brothers went down before Obama took office.

Regardless of how you feel about Bush or the US government intersession in the Great Recession, Bush played a role in mitigating the damage. Obama played a larger one.

 

[Skylar]

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing

They still are...

Banks were defaulting

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

What is it with conservatives and their various Armageddon fetishes? Its like they are emotionally invested in the collapse of America.

What happened to old school conservatives that you could always count on to laud our country and stand by her?

LOL! Poor Skylar. Here to demand that consequences are an archaic construct of a patriarchal society, designed to keep the lesbian down.

You're the one predicting economic collapse....civil collapse....the destruction of society.....'whiteville' attacking 'blacktown'.......the wholesale slaughter of gays......civil war.

Not me.

Too many conservatives have fetishized their fantasies of economic and civil calamity in the US. They seem almost....disappointed when none of it actually happens.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Not in free fall?

The stock market had dropped 7000 points

As it should have...

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month

Should have been much worse...

Auto companies were collapsing

They still are...

Banks were defaulting

That will happen when one replaces sound operating principle with unsound notions of 'fairness'.

GDP had been negative for five quarters

Catastrophic collapse of the economy due to the unsound economic policy will do that... .

Housing market collapsed

Yep... ya can't replace sound, actuarial lending policy with irrational notions of fairness and not expect a run on mortgages, that drives the cost of the underlying real property beyond the means of the market to sustain such and not expect it to collapse the market.

If that is not free fall, what is?

It was just the inevitable consequence of insinuating socialist policy into a free market.

And it's not over yet... all the idiots did was set up delays. The Markets did not correct... they simply propped up the fatally flawed system with pretend cash.

In fairly short order, all of it will crash. And there will be no resources remaining to stop it... and at that point, you'll get an idea of what 'free-fall' looks like. And my guess is that you're not going to like it much.

It was FREEFALL headed to depression

Obama stopped it

NOoooo... It was an economic collapse due to unsound economic policy.

If they had simply let it collapse, the businesses that had adopted the fatally flawed policy would have perished. The assets of those flawed enterprises would have been purchased by enterprises operating upon sound principle, which would have established the correction that follows such failures.

Instead, the collapse was forestalled by more unsound economic policy, which has precluded the potential for the necessary correction. As a result, the delay has sapped essential resources, precluding the potential for the correction... thus the collapse, when the markets can no longer sustain the debt that the aforementioned policy has produced, will be total... ruinous and beyond your means to so much as imagine.

Thank you... you idiots have completely fucked us.