The Evolution of "Manmade Global Warming"

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    To show you how big a fraud AGW is, I'm going to quote from their Bible, a peer reviewed study on how an additional wisp of CO2 was going to destroy the planet.

    "But as a percentage of the total atmosphere, CO2 represents only about .03 percent of the molecules that make up the air, or 355 parts per million. Even so, it has always played a critical role as the greenhouse gas that triggers enough warming to increase the amount of water vapor that evaporates from the oceans into the atmosphere. This extra water vapor, in turn, traps nearly 90 percent of the infrared rays radiated from the surface of the earth back toward space..." -- Al Gore, "Earth in the Balance" page 92

    I highlighted the key passage where Gore blames water vapor as the culprit.

    H2O =/= CO2

    Do you see that?

    Water vapor is the culprit that traps the heat, not CO2.
     
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    Frankie Boy, you are such an ignorant dumb fuck.

    CO2 has a resident time in the atmosphere of a couple of hundred years. Water vapor, less than ten days.

    Add CO2, and you increase the amount of heat that is retained in the atmosphere, more water evaporates, which creates even more heat. But that water is gone in ten days, but the CO2 is still there. Decrease CO2, and there is less heat, less water evaporates. And the atmosphere is cooler. To the point that a couple of times in the geological history of the earth, when extreme weathering removed most of the CO2 present at that time from the atmosphere, the oceans froze over almost to the equator.

    CO2 is the primary GHG in our atmosphere. It determines how much heat the atmosphere retains. Water vapor is a feedback, and the level of water vapor is dependent on the level of CO2.
     
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    The "man-made" part of global warming is 100% engineered..........brilliantly I might add!!
     
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    That is correct. Engineered as in coal fired generating plants, and transportation dependent on the burning of fossil fuels.
     
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    Did you read the op? I think not. Gore attributes 90% of the "warming" to water vapor, not to CO2
     
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    Crap, Frankie Boy, are you incapable of understanding English? Is it your second language? Water vapor is a feed back from CO2. And, yes, it is the most powerful GHG.
     
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    You're making progress!

    How much additional water vapor is there from say 20 years ago?

    Can't use the Vostok Ice cores now can we?

    What do Mann's tree rings have to say about the additional water vapor?
     
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    Rocks, did you just realize your monumental fuck up and decide to avoid this thread?
     
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    Worse yet -- is that water vapor is responsible for both Negative and Positive feedback. If it all went to clouds -- It would be negative and the earth would cool. It becomes a GHG when it is distributed and well mixed. Could this be a major reason why the Climate Sensitivities are REGIONAL and even SEASONAL?

    It is in effect in the Arctic this minute actually. The greater sensitivity of the Arctic is not because of CO2 distribution. It's because of water, ice, and water vapor --- isn't it? Of course it is..

    The Arctic isn't melting because of a 0.25degC change due to CO2 warming. It's been amplified by water, ice albedo change and vapor cycling. Something that the Arctic has plenty of.. We've probably underestimated the ability of these water based feedbacks for ANY increase in forcing function especially solar irradiation.

    Doesn't matter how long water vapor stays in the atmosphere. There is an ample supply being converted every moment by excess surface temp. BTW: CO2 doesn't reside in the atmos for 100 years.. It starts getting cycled as soon as it's released. SOME FRACTION might persist for 100 years, but the bulk is very likely long gone after 20 or 30 yrs.
     
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    Maybe all that water evaporating from the ocean is whats causing the oceans to turn "Acidic"

    (LOL)
     

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