Cuyo
Training a Guineapig army
He's probably sick to his stomach reading and going over the Bill. ~BH
No, not exactly. The conversation seems to have devolved into some kabookie catch-22.
You know what it is Cuyo? Seriously bro, just listen for a second. I know, You felt good about being a Democrat for a long time right? At first it was "feel good" thing where you were led to believe that you were on the side of righteousness and compassion. Slowly you accepted the fact that you were already being taxed and nickled and dimed to death but you were not gonna abandon your dope smoking brothers agenda. After all, Most of them were still renting rooms and why should you look down on or believe that you are any better than them?
So at first, You recognized that your Party had some nutcase proposals, some of them that were even passed, that deep down inside you were against as a small business owner. However, You weathered the Storm because you could never join the evil Corporate enslaved GOP. After some time you woke up to atleast the fact that both Parties in D.C are owned by The same Corporations. You kept your silence though, and more for your own selfish pride. Then Once Bush came in, you had a surge of liberal re-birth where you lied to yourself yet again by believing that only Republicans supported the War and Corporatons. You felt good for little while, but only because of the Bush tax cuts that you would never admit to.
Then finally, The madman Obama was elected and salvation came to your door. You swallowed all his bullshit like a good little sheople, and now today with this Bill all your past worries are coming back, the dream is over and you are attempting to swallow it all down like a beer bong at some highschool Party but in the back of your mind you know you're gonna be hugging that fucking toilet sooner or later. ~BH
Ya know, BH, I think we could be friends in real life. I mean that. You're a lot smarter than I would have given you credit for. Some of that I could even agree with. I especially like that last sentence, not because it's relevant but because it's very clever. But you've got my intentions and sociological view pegged all wrong.
I'm not the bleeding-heart liberal you think I am. A lot of us aren't, especially the more accomplished among us; Scientists, professors, hell, congressmen. It's not all about compassion. It is about compassion to an extent, but it's about stability and progress as well. The GOP has lost their ever-loving fuckin minds in the last decade or so. Where do you think the Bush-esque path would lead us? The GOP is THE party of deficit spending, yet they manage to frame the Democrats every time?
Wealth disparity leads to a shaky economy, ultimately class revolution. Obama wants to let Bush's tax cuts expire, a de-facto increase on the top bracket of 3.6% - And they call him a Socialist? Eisenhower had it at 90. What does that make him? The point is to create an aire of contentment, that you reach a certain point where more money no longer makes you happier. The problem now is, people accumulate wealth far beyond any earthy inclination that wealth can purchase. It's a sickness. And wealth begets wealth. Those who control the capitol control everything.
So, here's where I fit into this puzzle. I am not a teat-sucking leech who doesn't want to work. I'm the opposite. Even in my younger dope-smokin days, I always worked. I've never been unemployed for more than a few months since I was about 14. And for a loooong time, I got NOWHERE. Even now at 28 in a few days, I'm just somewhere in the middle. A goal-driven workaholic like me would have been looking at early retirement 40 years ago. Now, that workaholic is just a survivor; Not because of the government, but because of exploitative labor practices that have outsourced jobs, flooded the labor pool, and given the key-holders all the more power over us.
I don't know how old you are, but I think especially the older cons among us are out of touch with just how bad it really is out there in the wild these days.
As far as healthcare, it's been used as leverage against labor as well. People stay working in shit jobs that they hate, for poor wages, for fear of losing their benefits. Truthfully, a lot of this is mental, but it's tangible as well. Home Depot (I'm just picking names here) can get insurance that costs 30% as much per capita (again just pulling numbers) as a person can get on their own. Therefore, they can pay shit but lure you in with the golden "Benefits." Bob's Hardware can't do that. He can offer $16/hour instead of HD's $10, but after his 5-person group rate triples the insurance cost, the employee winds up with a net loss and is better off at Home Depot.
This is the reason I support the bill; It ends this. It's also the reason the GOP is so against the bill, despite concessions made by the Democrats. GOP is pro big business. Job mobility is bad for big business. Economic slavery is good for big business. And big business weakens the middle class; therefore, the economy.
Hope that's helped clear some things up.
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