The Death of the American Catholic Church

[Fenton Lum]

Failed behaviours? You mean like you, trying to convince people of your nonsense?

Did you just use spell behaviors like the British do? OMG. That makes so much sense, lol.

So now I've reduced you to criticizing spelling. At least you didn't dispute what I said. Good for you.

No. Making fun of you being British.

Petty little christians behaving like children on behalf of your god.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Brillant, the "commie" bit. Mr objective.

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

you forgot

Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism

Christian Persecution of Jews over the Centuries: Introduction — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Persecution by Christians of Jews began during the times of Constantine in reprisal for Jewish persecution of Christians prior.

So this is just more stuff that is the fault of the Jews themselves.

But when you go back 2000 years the memory of the history seems to fade for most.

That's why if you forget history you are condemned to relive it, precisely as Santayana said.

Like I said, male dominator god religions.

 

[ding]

Are you disagreeing that he believed like you do? I'm nit calling you a socialist, although you very well may be for all I know. What I am saying is that when it comes to religion, you and him see eye to eye. Do you seriously believe that zero good has come from religion?

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

you forgot

Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism

Christian Persecution of Jews over the Centuries: Introduction — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Persecution by Christians of Jews began during the times of Constantine in reprisal for Jewish persecution of Christians prior.

So this is just more stuff that is the fault of the Jews themselves.

But when you go back 2000 years the memory of the history seems to fade for most.

That's why if you forget history you are condemned to relive it, precisely as Santayana said.

Like I said, male dominator god religions.

That is exactly how Marcuse saw it too.

 

[ding]

Is it because religion is evil and needs to be abolished?

There you go again, if that's your view, state it. You don't see me childishly saying you want Catholicism as the state religion.

I don't want a theocracy.

Do you know why they stopped burning witches at the stake? It is because they realized they weren't witches. If we truly believed that they were witches intent upon doing evil, the logical thing would be to get rid of them. This is the logical conclusion of your argument. You believe religion is evil. Therefore, the logical thing would be to get rid of it.

Let me give you an example... I believe that socialism is evil and we should get rid of it. See? Man, that felt good to say it out loud.

Your aristocracy won't hear of it, it's woven all through american society. It's just no good for the unsubstantial people.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

You're all over the place with this shit, and by the way, you might need to have a word with the current pope about this wealth redistribution paradigm we're currently dealing with.

My aristocracy? Remind me again which party had a supermajority in February 2008, lol?

The redistribution of societal wealth has been going on for a bit over half a century now, and it has been utterly bipartisan. Clearly you're as confused on this as you are on your own spirituality.

Which party did you vote for in 2012?

 

[ding]

Realistic? You?

He's correct, you can offer no proof, your entire perceptual reality is subjective by definition.

That would be your opinion, brother. Not mine. There is plenty of evidence for the existence of a Creator. You just reject it all. I don't.

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

Realistic? You?

He's correct, you can offer no proof, your entire perceptual reality is subjective by definition.

That would be your opinion, brother. Not mine. There is plenty of evidence for the existence of a Creator. You just reject it all. I don't.

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

Why should I?

 

[ding]

lol, what part of I don't care if you believe or not do you not understand?

Your obsessive postings trying to convince everyone of your beliefs say different.

Can you show me any post I have ever made where I said you were wrong to believe what you believe? No, you can't. Can you show me where I have ever argued against you believing what you believe? No, you can't.

I am afraid that you will just have to face the facts that I couldn't give a shit about what you believe.

Your obsessive postings trying to convince everyone of your beliefs say different.

Can you show me any post I have ever made where I said you were wrong to believe what you believe? No, you can't. Can you show me where I have ever argued against you believing what you believe? No, you can't.

I am afraid that you will just have to face the facts that I couldn't give a shit about what you believe.

Actually he's right, you're very invested, why that's what this entire thread you started is about. Where you said anyone was wrong for not agreeing lock-stock-and-barrel with you? That's what your name calling is about, banishing folks as "socialists", "Marxists" and such. But you know that, that's why your feckless attempt at pontification has become nothing more than playground taunts.

I hope you don't mind if I see that the other way around.

 

[ding]

At least my mind is open to new discoveries if anyone ever comes up with real proof either way about a god. If you have a brain that works properly, you'll come around.

You? Open minded?

My mind is wide open. The problem is, you have nothing and you've come to realize it, me thinks, so now you're on tilt. Again. You should go and lie down.

You can have this rube, he's pretty empty, gotta run.

Bye bye, Karl.

See you later!

"you're a commie cuz you won't agree with me", how original.

No, you are a socialist soon to be commie because... your religion is socialism which worships big government and social policy. It is based on atheism and deification of man. It proceeds in almost all its manifestations from the assumption that the basic principles guiding the life of an individual and of mankind in general do not go beyond the satisfaction of material needs or primitive instincts. You have no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. Your doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and communality or equality. The religious nature of socialism explains the extraordinary attraction to socialist doctrines and its capacity to inflame individuals and inspire popular movements and condemn respect for any who believe in Christianity. You practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural marxism and normalization of deviance. Your hostility towards traditional religions is that of an animosity between a rival religion. You can be identified by an external locus of control. You worship science but are the first to argue against it.

 

[ding]

All of Creation and everything in it and everything that has occurred since space and time were created are my evidence.

That was basically a statement of "I have nothing". This is the problem with "believers", once they "believe" they are no longer thinking and questioning.

I see. Thank you for proving that socialism seeks uniformity and conformity. I much prefer the Christian way of free will.

Christian way of "free will"? Hell, you can't even face how this land masss was come by, no wonder, have a nice day in your own little subjective head pard.

Are you leaving for good this time?

I come and go often, thanks for the concern.

Then why do you make it a point to say that you are done discussing it? Twice.

 

[ding]

...that your particular invisible friend who wants us to obey a book made everything? Um... no.

The don't believe. Problem solved.

But why are you so upset? Because you can't get ANYONE to agree with your bogus god proof? Which boils down to basically "because the universe exists". I guess you're not as clever as you thought.

I'm not upset. I couldn't care less what anyone else believes. Believe, don't believe. Makes no difference to me. At the end of the day we are the sum of our choices. I am happy enough for you to experience the consequences of practicing failed behaviors. It does not affect me one bit.

Failed behaviours? You mean like you, trying to convince people of your nonsense?

Knock it off will ya, he's doing god's work here.

Technically... we are all doing God's work. He uses it all.

 

[Fenton Lum]

What you're "nit" doing is making any sense. I point out some objective facts in your religion's history and you leap to "zero good has come from religion". Once religiosos have come to "believe", there is no thinking going on anymore, they just believe, and are uncomfortable with any who question. What ever works for you, it's your's, as each human being's spiritual path should be; their own.

You made an unbalanced argument which shows your lack of objectivity. Now you are trying to divide and conquer those that believe in God by implying they should keep their beliefs to themselves.

Religion in general and Christianity in specific has overwhelmingly been a force for good.


1) Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness
a) Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations
b) Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions
c) Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing
d) Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity
e) Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility
f) Religion teaches accountability and responsibility
g) Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave
h) Religion teaches that actions have consequences
i) Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe
j) Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature
k) Religion helps us feel less alone in the world
l) Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit
m) Religion serves to bind the community together
n) Religion inspires love, peace and happiness
o) Religion serves to create traditions
p) Religion brings order to our lives
q) Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill
r) Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed
s) Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves
2) Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.
a) No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church
i) Modern science was born in the Catholic Church
ii) Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market
iii) The Catholic Church invented the university
iv) Western law grew out of Church canon law
v) the Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life
(1) The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.
b) Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians
c) Religion gave us America
d) Religion gave us incredible artwork
e) Religion gave us incredible music
f) Religion gave us incredible architecture
g) Christianity has spread democracy
h) Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.
i) Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII
j) Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII
k) Christians put a man on the moon.
l) Christians ended the cold war.

you forgot

Jewish Persecution | Timeline of Judaism | History of AntiSemitism

Christian Persecution of Jews over the Centuries: Introduction — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

Persecution by Christians of Jews began during the times of Constantine in reprisal for Jewish persecution of Christians prior.

So this is just more stuff that is the fault of the Jews themselves.

But when you go back 2000 years the memory of the history seems to fade for most.

That's why if you forget history you are condemned to relive it, precisely as Santayana said.

Like I said, male dominator god religions.

That is exactly how Marcuse saw it too.

Good for him, got nuttin' tado with me. Or you for that matter.

 

[Fenton Lum]

There you go again, if that's your view, state it. You don't see me childishly saying you want Catholicism as the state religion.

I don't want a theocracy.

Do you know why they stopped burning witches at the stake? It is because they realized they weren't witches. If we truly believed that they were witches intent upon doing evil, the logical thing would be to get rid of them. This is the logical conclusion of your argument. You believe religion is evil. Therefore, the logical thing would be to get rid of it.

Let me give you an example... I believe that socialism is evil and we should get rid of it. See? Man, that felt good to say it out loud.

Your aristocracy won't hear of it, it's woven all through american society. It's just no good for the unsubstantial people.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

You're all over the place with this shit, and by the way, you might need to have a word with the current pope about this wealth redistribution paradigm we're currently dealing with.

My aristocracy? Remind me again which party had a supermajority in February 2008, lol?

The redistribution of societal wealth has been going on for a bit over half a century now, and it has been utterly bipartisan. Clearly you're as confused on this as you are on your own spirituality.

Which party did you vote for in 2012?

What does that have to do with your catholicism outreach efforts.

 

[Fenton Lum]

The don't believe. Problem solved.

But why are you so upset? Because you can't get ANYONE to agree with your bogus god proof? Which boils down to basically "because the universe exists". I guess you're not as clever as you thought.

I'm not upset. I couldn't care less what anyone else believes. Believe, don't believe. Makes no difference to me. At the end of the day we are the sum of our choices. I am happy enough for you to experience the consequences of practicing failed behaviors. It does not affect me one bit.

Failed behaviours? You mean like you, trying to convince people of your nonsense?

Knock it off will ya, he's doing god's work here.

Technically... we are all doing God's work. He uses it all.

Yup, and he's oh so proud of you calling folks names on an anonymous message board too.

 

[Fenton Lum]

He's correct, you can offer no proof, your entire perceptual reality is subjective by definition.

That would be your opinion, brother. Not mine. There is plenty of evidence for the existence of a Creator. You just reject it all. I don't.

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

He's correct, you can offer no proof, your entire perceptual reality is subjective by definition.

That would be your opinion, brother. Not mine. There is plenty of evidence for the existence of a Creator. You just reject it all. I don't.

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

Why should I?

You're right, you shouldn't, might threaten your world view and challenge your belief system, with your open mind and all.

 

[ding]

I don't want a theocracy.

Do you know why they stopped burning witches at the stake? It is because they realized they weren't witches. If we truly believed that they were witches intent upon doing evil, the logical thing would be to get rid of them. This is the logical conclusion of your argument. You believe religion is evil. Therefore, the logical thing would be to get rid of it.

Let me give you an example... I believe that socialism is evil and we should get rid of it. See? Man, that felt good to say it out loud.

Your aristocracy won't hear of it, it's woven all through american society. It's just no good for the unsubstantial people.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

You're all over the place with this shit, and by the way, you might need to have a word with the current pope about this wealth redistribution paradigm we're currently dealing with.

My aristocracy? Remind me again which party had a supermajority in February 2008, lol?

The redistribution of societal wealth has been going on for a bit over half a century now, and it has been utterly bipartisan. Clearly you're as confused on this as you are on your own spirituality.

Which party did you vote for in 2012?

What does that have to do with your catholicism outreach efforts.

I didn't know I was. So which party did you vote for in 2012? Weren't you concerned about privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class, internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class and socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses? Or was just some bullshit you made up?

 

[ding]

That would be your opinion, brother. Not mine. There is plenty of evidence for the existence of a Creator. You just reject it all. I don't.

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

That would be your opinion, brother. Not mine. There is plenty of evidence for the existence of a Creator. You just reject it all. I don't.

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

Why should I?

You're right, you shouldn't, might threaten your world view and challenge your belief system, with your open mind and all.

No. It was never something I thought about. Good Lord, how long ago was that. It's not like 8 years ago when you were supposedly upset about privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class, internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class and socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses? Or was just some bullshit you made up?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Your aristocracy won't hear of it, it's woven all through american society. It's just no good for the unsubstantial people.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

You're all over the place with this shit, and by the way, you might need to have a word with the current pope about this wealth redistribution paradigm we're currently dealing with.

My aristocracy? Remind me again which party had a supermajority in February 2008, lol?

The redistribution of societal wealth has been going on for a bit over half a century now, and it has been utterly bipartisan. Clearly you're as confused on this as you are on your own spirituality.

Which party did you vote for in 2012?

What does that have to do with your catholicism outreach efforts.

I didn't know I was. So which party did you vote for in 2012? Weren't you concerned about privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class, internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class and socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses? Or was just some bullshit you made up?

Both parties have participated in that, you should pay more attention. Those bailouts? Initiated under a "conservative" administration, followed through on again by a “liberal” administration. The same economic “advisement” team across “both” administrations.
What this to do with your missionary work on behalf of catholicism again?

 

[Fenton Lum]

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

You just can't tell us about it. The Papal Bulls of the 1400's are very insightful as to the Church's view of its own role on the planet. And apparently you fecklessly hope to continue that fine tradition.

Sure I can. You just won't listen to it.

What fine tradition would that be, brother?

Papal Bulls of the 1400's. You can? When will you be starting on that?

Why should I?

You're right, you shouldn't, might threaten your world view and challenge your belief system, with your open mind and all.

No. It was never something I thought about. Good Lord, how long ago was that. It's not like 8 years ago when you were supposedly upset about privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class, internalized profit versus externalized risk and expanse for the "job creator" class and socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses? Or was just some bullshit you made up?

It's been that way for quite a while, guess you overlooked it like the history of your church.

 

[ding]

But why are you so upset? Because you can't get ANYONE to agree with your bogus god proof? Which boils down to basically "because the universe exists". I guess you're not as clever as you thought.

I'm not upset. I couldn't care less what anyone else believes. Believe, don't believe. Makes no difference to me. At the end of the day we are the sum of our choices. I am happy enough for you to experience the consequences of practicing failed behaviors. It does not affect me one bit.

Failed behaviours? You mean like you, trying to convince people of your nonsense?

Knock it off will ya, he's doing god's work here.

Technically... we are all doing God's work. He uses it all.

Yup, and he's oh so proud of you calling folks names on an anonymous message board too.

You mean like socialists? I'm glad you affiliate socialist with a bad word. I think those guys are deceitful dirty rotten scum of the earth. The world would be a much better place without them. We should abolish socialism. Don't you wish you could say that about religion? But you can't.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I'm not upset. I couldn't care less what anyone else believes. Believe, don't believe. Makes no difference to me. At the end of the day we are the sum of our choices. I am happy enough for you to experience the consequences of practicing failed behaviors. It does not affect me one bit.

Failed behaviours? You mean like you, trying to convince people of your nonsense?

Knock it off will ya, he's doing god's work here.

Technically... we are all doing God's work. He uses it all.

Yup, and he's oh so proud of you calling folks names on an anonymous message board too.

You mean like socialists? I'm glad you affiliate socialist with a bad word. I think those guys are deceitful dirty rotten scum of the earth. The world would be a much better place without them. We should abolish socialism.

Go ahead. Wall Street Banskters won't allow you.

 

[Fenton Lum]

That was basically a statement of "I have nothing". This is the problem with "believers", once they "believe" they are no longer thinking and questioning.

I see. Thank you for proving that socialism seeks uniformity and conformity. I much prefer the Christian way of free will.

Christian way of "free will"? Hell, you can't even face how this land masss was come by, no wonder, have a nice day in your own little subjective head pard.

Are you leaving for good this time?

I come and go often, thanks for the concern.

Then why do you make it a point to say that you are done discussing it? Twice.

Did I?