The Bottom 40%

[Dad2three]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Dad2three]

JUST ONE POLICY CONservatives have EVER stood on the correct side of history? ONE policy? EVER?

Conservatives stood for freedom while liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb. When Joe McCarthy asked them if they were communists or ever had been they all took the 5th rather than tell the truth.

SO , NO YOU CAN'T. Got it

 

[Dad2three]

So they can take the best and brightest and leave the rest, including the handicapped? Great ANOTHER right wing failure

You'll have plenty of company with the other Left Behinds

Like the CONservatives "math" where gutting taxes increase revenues or "history" where the CONservatives stood with the US Founders, the most radically liberal of their day, NOT the Torries/Loyalists? lol

Obama's been the biggest creator of Poor people ever.

Oh right, sorry I forgot, Ronnie had a 16 year miracle that's why he gets credit for BJ Bill's economy BUT Dubya's policies ended Jan 20th 2009...

True enough, FDR and Obama have given us the 2 worst economies in 100 years. I wonder why anti business presidents produce weak economies?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Admit you lied or give us a good example of protectionism from our Founders. You idiot liberal they gave us the commerce clause which was designed to promote free trade. Now do you see what a total idiot you are. That's why you thought our founders were liberal and now you know even that was not true!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sounds like a system that's begging for competition

So they can take the best and brightest and leave the rest, including the handicapped? Great ANOTHER right wing failure

You'll have plenty of company with the other Left Behinds

Like the CONservatives "math" where gutting taxes increase revenues or "history" where the CONservatives stood with the US Founders, the most radically liberal of their day, NOT the Torries/Loyalists? lol

Obama's been the biggest creator of Poor people ever.

Oh right, sorry I forgot, Ronnie had a 16 year miracle that's why he gets credit for BJ Bill's economy BUT Dubya's policies ended Jan 20th 2009...

Obama: the greatest, most powerless POTUS EVAH!!

Boooooooooooooooooosh!!

 

[kaz]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Admit you lied or give us a good example of protectionism from our Founders. You idiot liberal they gave us the commerce clause which was designed to promote free trade. NOw do you see what a total idiot you are. That's why you though our founders were liberal and now you know even that was not true!!

The founding fathers were classic liberals. The people calling themselves "liberal" today are actually authoritarian leftists, there is nothing in common between the two

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You'll have plenty of company with the other Left Behinds

Like the CONservatives "math" where gutting taxes increase revenues or "history" where the CONservatives stood with the US Founders, the most radically liberal of their day, NOT the Torries/Loyalists? lol

Obama's been the biggest creator of Poor people ever.

Oh right, sorry I forgot, Ronnie had a 16 year miracle that's why he gets credit for BJ Bill's economy BUT Dubya's policies ended Jan 20th 2009...

True enough, FDR and Obama have given us the 2 worst economies in 100 years. I wonder why anti business presidents produce weak economies?

dumbto three lost another debate so once again is reduced to pictures big letters and colors like a 2 year old!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Admit you lied or give us a good example of protectionism from our Founders. You idiot liberal they gave us the commerce clause which was designed to promote free trade. NOw do you see what a total idiot you are. That's why you though our founders were liberal and now you know even that was not true!!

The founding fathers were classic liberals. The people calling themselves "liberal" today are actually authoritarian leftists, there is nothing in common between the two

very true. Liberals then were for liberty from govt. Today's liberals are twisted fools for the exact opposite. Its Nazi double think similar to what plagued mankind throughout history.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Point of the thread: Public School Failure end up in the Bottom 40%

 

[rightwinger]

How does the right wing propose to improve education and reduce funding at the same time? Does this involve forcing everyone to become a member of a specific religion, by any chance? Because religious people aren't necessarily that intelligent.

First of all, education is local, not Federal.

And throwing money at the problem is no solution, we spend way more than our peers on education and get so much less in return. The answer to that is not to throw more money

What data do you have that less money results in a better education?

That isn't what I said, now that's funny. You can't comprehend a sentence on education

You claim the answer is not to throw more money. What data do you have to support that?

 

[Dad2three]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Admit you lied or give us a good example of protectionism from our Founders. You idiot liberal they gave us the commerce clause which was designed to promote free trade. Now do you see what a total idiot you are. That's why you thought our founders were liberal and now you know even that was not true!!

Responding to an urgent need for revenue and a trade imbalance with England that was fast destroying the infant American industries and draining the nation of its currency, the First United States Congress passed, and President George Washington signed, the Hamilton Tariff of 1789, which authorized the collection of duties on imported goods. Customs duties as set by tariff rates up to 1860 were usually about 80–95% of all federal revenue. Having just fought a war over taxation (among other things) the U.S. Congress wanted a reliable source of income that was relatively unobtrusive and easy to collect. It also sought to protect the infant industries that had developed during the war but which were now threatened by cheaper imports, especially from England. Tariffs and excise taxes were authorized by the United States Constitution and recommended by the first United States Secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton in 1789 to tax foreign imports and set up low excise taxes on whiskey and a few other products to provide the Federal Government with enough money to pay its operating expenses and to redeem at full value U.S. Federal debts and the debts the states had accumulated during the Revolutionary War. The Congress set low excise taxes on only a few goods, such as, whiskey, rum, tobacco, snuff and refined sugar.


Tariffs in United States history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


MORON

 

[rightwinger]

How does the right wing propose to improve education and reduce funding at the same time? Does this involve forcing everyone to become a member of a specific religion, by any chance? Because religious people aren't necessarily that intelligent.

First of all, education is local, not Federal.

And throwing money at the problem is no solution, we spend way more than our peers on education and get so much less in return. The answer to that is not to throw more money

What data do you have that less money results in a better education?

right now a classroom collects $400k in taxes. The teacher gets $50k and the liberals waste $350k. Its typical libsoviet behavior. A voucher system would at least cut cost in half and double quality of education.

Show me your data

 

[Dad2three]

So they can take the best and brightest and leave the rest, including the handicapped? Great ANOTHER right wing failure

You'll have plenty of company with the other Left Behinds

Like the CONservatives "math" where gutting taxes increase revenues or "history" where the CONservatives stood with the US Founders, the most radically liberal of their day, NOT the Torries/Loyalists? lol

Obama's been the biggest creator of Poor people ever.

Oh right, sorry I forgot, Ronnie had a 16 year miracle that's why he gets credit for BJ Bill's economy BUT Dubya's policies ended Jan 20th 2009...

Obama: the greatest, most powerless POTUS EVAH!!

Boooooooooooooooooosh!!

Nope BUT the GOP dig WIDE and deep holes though, ask FDR

 

[Dad2three]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Admit you lied or give us a good example of protectionism from our Founders. You idiot liberal they gave us the commerce clause which was designed to promote free trade. NOw do you see what a total idiot you are. That's why you though our founders were liberal and now you know even that was not true!!

The founding fathers were classic liberals. The people calling themselves "liberal" today are actually authoritarian leftists, there is nothing in common between the two

very true. Liberals then were for liberty from govt. Today's liberals are twisted fools for the exact opposite. Its Nazi double think similar to what plagued mankind throughout history.

LMAOROG...

 

[rightwinger]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Admit you lied or give us a good example of protectionism from our Founders. You idiot liberal they gave us the commerce clause which was designed to promote free trade. NOw do you see what a total idiot you are. That's why you though our founders were liberal and now you know even that was not true!!

The founding fathers were classic liberals. The people calling themselves "liberal" today are actually authoritarian leftists, there is nothing in common between the two

Liberals are still liberals

The founders were the greatest liberals of the day. They used liberal concepts to solve the issues of the day

Just like today's liberals

 

[Dad2three]

Yep, the Founders those guys who chose a HEAVY protectionist policy?

you have told that lie before, stupid!! Please stop lying!!

(Re-)Introducing: The American School of Economics


When the United States became independent from Britain it also rebelled against the British System of economics, characterized by Adam Smith, in favor of the American School based on protectionism and infrastructure and prospered under this system for almost 200 years to become the wealthiest nation in the world. Unrestrained free trade resurfaced in the early 1900s culminating in the Great Depression and again in the 1970s culminating in the current Economic Meltdown.


Closely related to mercantilism, it can be seen as contrary to classical economics. It consisted of these three core policies:

1. protecting industry through selective high tariffs (especially 1861–1932) and through subsidies (especially 1932–70)
2. government investments in infrastructure creating targeted internal improvements (especially in transportation)
3. a national bank with policies that promote the growth of productive enterprises rather than speculation.

The American School of capitalism was intended to allow the United States to become economically independent and nationally self-sufficient.




Frank Bourgin's 1989 study of the Constitutional Convention shows that direct government involvement in the economy was intended by the Founders.


The goal, most forcefully articulated by Hamilton, was to ensure that dearly won political independence was not lost by being economically and financially dependent on the powers and princes of Europe. The creation of a strong central government able to promote science, invention, industry and commerce, was seen as an essential means of promoting the general welfare and making the economy of the United States strong enough for them to determine their own destiny

American School (economics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Admit you lied or give us a good example of protectionism from our Founders. You idiot liberal they gave us the commerce clause which was designed to promote free trade. NOw do you see what a total idiot you are. That's why you though our founders were liberal and now you know even that was not true!!

The founding fathers were classic liberals. The people calling themselves "liberal" today are actually authoritarian leftists, there is nothing in common between the two

Can't refute the Founders DIDN'T use "free markets", got rid of the Articles of Confederation, that libertarian type document huh? lol

Nobility is a graceful ornament to the civil order. It is the Corinthian capital of polished society. Edmund Burke


WHO WAS THAT GUY AGAIN? LOL

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Can't refute the Founders DIDN'T use "free markets"

100% stupid!! Of course they used free markets. Was our Constitution really socialist and still govt then was 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis?

See why we say stupid??

 

[Dad2three]

Point of the thread: NYC Public School Failure end up in the Bottom 40%

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, got rid of the Articles of Confederation, that libertarian type document huh? lol

yes dumbto3, they got rid of Articles and replaced with Constitution and commerce clause to promote free trade as opposed to protectionism under Articles.

See why we say dumbto3???

 

[Dad2three]

Can't refute the Founders DIDN'T use "free markets"

100% stupid!! Of course they used free markets. Was our Constitution really socialist and still govt then was 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis?

See why we say stupid??