The Argument For and Against Raising the Minimum Wage to $15/hr

[Blackrook]

Liberals are racists because they think minorities are too stupid to make it in life without government assistance.

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's what I think.

The government has no business in interfering with a contract.

The government has no business in setting price ceilings, price floors, or wage floors and ceilings.

Yeah, let's remove all labor laws and let businesses do what they want, after all, it's fine through "contracts." Not like people have to sell their labor to survive..

You've never sold anything in your life. Gd knows you've never worked.

Seriously? Sorry that you disagree with reality, but america and europe were shit holes before regulations and overwatch of business.

That's quite a fantasy there.

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's what I think.

The government has no business in interfering with a contract.

The government has no business in setting price ceilings, price floors, or wage floors and ceilings.

Yeah, let's remove all labor laws and let businesses do what they want, after all, it's fine through "contracts." Not like people have to sell their labor to survive..

Lol, our federal govt is running an 18 trillion dollar debt. You expect them to know about contracts? Are we on fantasy island?

Yeah, how much debt was acquired thanks to invading the wrong country to get WMD's that never existed? The debt will never go away now.

About $2B out of $20T. WW2 was much more expensive, of course.
Can you actually debate a point without falling off into deflection and inaccuracy?

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's what I think.

The government has no business in interfering with a contract.

The government has no business in setting price ceilings, price floors, or wage floors and ceilings.

Yeah, let's remove all labor laws and let businesses do what they want, after all, it's fine through "contracts." Not like people have to sell their labor to survive..

You've never sold anything in your life. Gd knows you've never worked.

Seriously? Sorry that you disagree with reality, but america and europe were shit holes before regulations and overwatch of business.

No they weren't but with massive regulations they're quickly becoming shitholes.

Are you fucking kidding me? There is a reason labor unions were formed and supressed, a reason that the paris commune formed, workers fought for a 40 hour work week and they don't even have that yet, a reason pollution was horrid, where children were working to barely scrape by while their parents worked 60 hours a week for pitiful wages. You're a fucking idiot.

Mean capitalists with guns were holding them captive, forcing them to work?
Dont ever call anyone else a fucking idiot again, kay?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Liberals are racists because they think minorities are too stupid to make it in life without government assistance.

yup, Hillary thinks they are to stupid to even get an ID

 

[The Rabbi]

Lol, our federal govt is running an 18 trillion dollar debt. You expect them to know about contracts? Are we on fantasy island?

Yeah, how much debt was acquired thanks to invading the wrong country to get WMD's that never existed? The debt will never go away now.

Fair question, around 2 trillion. How much debt has accumulated under O?

Iraq War To Remain A Significant U.S. Debt-Driver For Years To Come CHART

Not over two trillion dollars.

Factor in the bush tax cuts and afghanistan, and it's going to be a huge contributor unless we get out.

Obama erased the Bush tax cuts.
The Federal gov't has received more revenue in the last year or two than ever before. And we're still running record deficits.
Remind me what the fuck that has to do with min wage?

 

[The Rabbi]

Seriously? Sorry that you disagree with reality, but america and europe were shit holes before regulations and overwatch of business.

No they weren't but with massive regulations they're quickly becoming shitholes.

Are you fucking kidding me? There is a reason labor unions were formed and supressed, a reason that the paris commune formed, workers fought for a 40 hour work week and they don't even have that yet, a reason pollution was horrid, where children were working to barely scrape by while their parents worked 60 hours a week for pitiful wages. You're a fucking idiot.

News flash, the year is not 1915 , you brain dead commie moron.....

They dream of the depression years and fdr. They always hearken back to those wonderful times.

Oh please, the depression wasn't caused by FDR, it would continue either way, FDR helped the people through something he had little to no control over with the new deal and other such programs, only historical revisionists would believe otherwise, then again, I can't take anyone seriously who actually believes 60 hour work weeks where the kids were working to barely get by was better then today.

I heard The New Deal prevented an outbreak of Black Plague. True Story!

 

[The Rabbi]

Seriously? Sorry that you disagree with reality, but america and europe were shit holes before regulations and overwatch of business.

No they weren't but with massive regulations they're quickly becoming shitholes.

Are you fucking kidding me? There is a reason labor unions were formed and supressed, a reason that the paris commune formed, workers fought for a 40 hour work week and they don't even have that yet, a reason pollution was horrid, where children were working to barely scrape by while their parents worked 60 hours a week for pitiful wages. You're a fucking idiot.

News flash, the year is not 1915 , you brain dead commie moron.....

Liberals don't have any current issues to run on so they foam at the mouth about problems that were solved decades ago its hilarious.

Seriously? I'm not a liberal but it's sad that you think liberals have no current issues. Income inequality is getting worse, wages are stagnant, womens rights is still a very important issue..

And Democrats have made all of them worse.
Remind me why you think doing the same thing more will have a different result?

 

[The Rabbi]

Are you fucking kidding me? There is a reason labor unions were formed and supressed, a reason that the paris commune formed, workers fought for a 40 hour work week and they don't even have that yet, a reason pollution was horrid, where children were working to barely scrape by while their parents worked 60 hours a week for pitiful wages. You're a fucking idiot.

News flash, the year is not 1915 , you brain dead commie moron.....

They dream of the depression years and fdr. They always hearken back to those wonderful times.

Oh please, the depression wasn't caused by FDR, it would continue either way, FDR helped the people through something he had little to no control over with the new deal and other such programs, only historical revisionists would believe otherwise, then again, I can't take anyone seriously who actually believes 60 hour work weeks where the kids were working to barely get by was better then today.

Are you fucking kidding me? There is a reason labor unions were formed and supressed, a reason that the paris commune formed, workers fought for a 40 hour work week and they don't even have that yet, a reason pollution was horrid, where children were working to barely scrape by while their parents worked 60 hours a week for pitiful wages. You're a fucking idiot.

News flash, the year is not 1915 , you brain dead commie moron.....

Liberals don't have any current issues to run on so they foam at the mouth about problems that were solved decades ago its hilarious.

Seriously? I'm not a liberal but it's sad that you think liberals have no current issues. Income inequality is getting worse, wages are stagnant, womens rights is still a very important issue..

Yea we know you are not a liberal, but a full fledged commie pinko, comrade.

Yes, and I know the majority of conservatives on this board are racist.

Actually it is the libs who are racist. And homophobic.

 

[Blackrook]

Here's what I think:

Socialist is a Commie, but he's not very good at.

During the Cold War, Commies were much better trained at how to debate people.

I went up against them in college, and they were very good compared to Socialist.

 

[Socialist]

Here's what I think.

The government has no business in interfering with a contract.

The government has no business in setting price ceilings, price floors, or wage floors and ceilings.

Yeah, let's remove all labor laws and let businesses do what they want, after all, it's fine through "contracts." Not like people have to sell their labor to survive..

You've never sold anything in your life. Gd knows you've never worked.

Seriously? Sorry that you disagree with reality, but america and europe were shit holes before regulations and overwatch of business.

That's quite a fantasy there.

Are you kidding me? Should block your stupid racist ass.

 

[Socialist]

News flash, the year is not 1915 , you brain dead commie moron.....

They dream of the depression years and fdr. They always hearken back to those wonderful times.

Oh please, the depression wasn't caused by FDR, it would continue either way, FDR helped the people through something he had little to no control over with the new deal and other such programs, only historical revisionists would believe otherwise, then again, I can't take anyone seriously who actually believes 60 hour work weeks where the kids were working to barely get by was better then today.

News flash, the year is not 1915 , you brain dead commie moron.....

Liberals don't have any current issues to run on so they foam at the mouth about problems that were solved decades ago its hilarious.

Seriously? I'm not a liberal but it's sad that you think liberals have no current issues. Income inequality is getting worse, wages are stagnant, womens rights is still a very important issue..

Yea we know you are not a liberal, but a full fledged commie pinko, comrade.

Yes, and I know the majority of conservatives on this board are racist.

Actually it is the libs who are racist. And homophobic.

How are liberals homophobic? Do liberals view african americans as inferior?

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's what I think:

Socialist is a Commie, but he's not very good at.

During the Cold War, Commies were much better trained at how to debate people.

I went up against them in college, and they were very good compared to Socialist.

One Percenter is very good compared to Socialist. He doesnt even understand what socialism means. And when called on it he deflects to something else.
He for sure cannot debate min wage laws without blaming Bush, the ultimate sign of mental underachievement.

 

[Socialist]

Here's what I think:

Socialist is a Commie, but he's not very good at.

During the Cold War, Commies were much better trained at how to debate people.

I went up against them in college, and they were very good compared to Socialist.

Ideally, many socialists are communists, but it's hard to have a serious debate when the opposition lacks critical thinking.

 

[The Rabbi]

Here's what I think.

The government has no business in interfering with a contract.

The government has no business in setting price ceilings, price floors, or wage floors and ceilings.

Yeah, let's remove all labor laws and let businesses do what they want, after all, it's fine through "contracts." Not like people have to sell their labor to survive..

You've never sold anything in your life. Gd knows you've never worked.

Seriously? Sorry that you disagree with reality, but america and europe were shit holes before regulations and overwatch of business.

That's quite a fantasy there.

Are you kidding me? Should block your stupid racist ass.

No I'm not kidding you.
Go and ahead and Ignore me, you silly ****. You dont have a single cogent argument anywhere.

 

[Socialist]

Yeah, how much debt was acquired thanks to invading the wrong country to get WMD's that never existed? The debt will never go away now.

Fair question, around 2 trillion. How much debt has accumulated under O?

Iraq War To Remain A Significant U.S. Debt-Driver For Years To Come CHART

Not over two trillion dollars.

Factor in the bush tax cuts and afghanistan, and it's going to be a huge contributor unless we get out.

Obama erased the Bush tax cuts.
The Federal gov't has received more revenue in the last year or two than ever before. And we're still running record deficits.
Remind me what the fuck that has to do with min wage?

We were addressing a point seperate from the minimum wage when I replied to that post, try to keep up.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Here's what I think.

The government has no business in interfering with a contract.

The government has no business in setting price ceilings, price floors, or wage floors and ceilings.

Lassiez farie, huh?

Monopoly is cool with you? Cartels too? How about contract law, who referees when a contract is breached?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Here's what I think:

Socialist is a Commie, but he's not very good at.

During the Cold War, Commies were much better trained at how to debate people.

I went up against them in college, and they were very good compared to Socialist.

You are older then me, but I read and heard the story's ... Yea they were really good back then, this guy is so lame he embarrass them.

 

[Socialist]

Yeah, let's remove all labor laws and let businesses do what they want, after all, it's fine through "contracts." Not like people have to sell their labor to survive..

You've never sold anything in your life. Gd knows you've never worked.

Seriously? Sorry that you disagree with reality, but america and europe were shit holes before regulations and overwatch of business.

That's quite a fantasy there.

Are you kidding me? Should block your stupid racist ass.

No I'm not kidding you.
Go and ahead and Ignore me, you silly ****. You dont have a single cogent argument anywhere.

You're denying that conditions were worse for working people before regulations, that is a blatant falsehood on all measurements. You uphold the confederate flag for absolutely no reason.

 

[Socialist]

Liberals are racists because they think minorities are too stupid to make it in life without government assistance.

No one believes this apart from people like yourself, liberals in america want to utilize the government to help those in need since private charity has failed to do this, and can never fully provide.