Zone1 The Announcements Forum is not Your Personal Whine Fest Regarding Moderator Actions

[Lastamender]

I'm not sure what it is about the past month, but there have been repeated threads by members complaining about moderator actions taken towards their posts or threads they have created in the Announcements and Feedback forum. That is NOT the purpose of this forum. No change has been made to the forum rules. If you have a problem with actions taken against a post or thread you have written then take it up with us in PM. If you don't know who took the action you can PM any one of us.

It has to be a conspiracy!!!!

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

An open process ensures that the Forum as a whole have confidence or at least understand the results.
So mods enforce?
What are the parameters the mods use to make enforcement decisions or is enforcement merely a matter of a mod's opinion?
Can a decision be challenged? Why not?
What is the process for selecting mods?

And so forth.

And not for seeing what people report but for seeing mod actions and understanding the reasoning.

Any mod action can be challenged. It needs to be sent to me by PM and include any of the mods you want in it as well.

Mod selection - In the past we have asked members to let us know if they want to be considered or who they recommend. That hasn't changed. Usually, a thread is started by one of us in Announcements.

 

[Road Runner]

It has to be a conspiracy!!!!

Maybe Aye can move it to the conspiracy forum since everything on this message board is a conspiracy to Taz anyways even when it has news articles posted in the OP.

 

[Dadoalex]

Any mod action can be challenged. It needs to be sent to me by PM and include any of the mods you want in it as well.

Mod selection - In the past we have asked members to let us know if they want to be considered or who they recommend. That hasn't changed. Usually, a thread is started by one of us in Announcements.

So how does one who has been banned pm a mod?

Telepathy?

 

[Road Runner]

So how does one who has been banned pm a mod?

Telepathy?

Surprisingly enough that's actually a good question. XD

 

[Dadoalex]

Surprisingly enough that's actually a good question. XD

Don't expect a response.
All of the posts by the OP mod have disappeared from my line.

 

[BackAgain]

As was stated in the beginning, if you have a question you can PM any one of us.

Big deal. Why can’t we also address it out in the open?

 

[Road Runner]

Big deal. Why can’t we also address it out in the open?

I didn't know that Coyote was a meme. Looks and sounds just like her.

 

[BackAgain]

I didn't know that Coyote was a meme. Looks and sounds just like her.


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As a parent, I invoked that line of reasoning with my then young kids, periodically.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

As a parent, I invoked that line of reasoning with my then young kids, periodically.

I guess you have an idea then how most of you behave here

 

[Road Runner]

As a parent, I invoked that line of reasoning with my then young kids, periodically.

Yeah well apparently the mods took it on too.

 

[Road Runner]

I guess you have an idea then how most of you behave here

Most of the mods you mean?

 

[BackAgain]

I guess you have an idea then how most of you behave here

I recognize how certain mods treat board members.

 

[Road Runner]

I recognize how certain mods treat board members.

Yeah making rules for no reason whatsoever other than the fact they feel like it.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Most of the mods you mean?

If synergy is described as that state where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, I have always seen this place as the opposite.

The whole, here, is much less than the sum of its parts.

Individually, most mods are good people, here.

 

[bdtex]

I recognize how certain mods treat board members.

Vice versa?

 

[Road Runner]

I mean I realize that rules are rules but all we want to know is why.

 

[bdtex]

Moderators should be impartial. Most are not.

Most are

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Most are

And you know this because your registered user name has been so absolutely absent for so many years?

 

[BackAgain]

If synergy is described as that state where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, I have always seen this place as the opposite.

The whole, here, is much less than the sum of its parts.

Individually, most mods are good people, here.

Individually, most mods (maybe all) are good people.

This isn’t a value judgment on all mods nor is it a value judgment of any individual mods as people.

The OP complaint is that some members are “misusing” this feedback forum. But if a mod is making such a complaint about the members and suggesting that this forum is being used only to “whine” about certain mod actions, then t seems fair to ask some pointed questions.

It’s not “whining” to note that if I get moderated (for example, if I am given a 1 week ban), I can’t take up that sanction with anyone BECAUSE I can’t even send a PM to any mod during a ban.

It wasn’t “whining” when I recently expressed my problem with unsigned Mod PM’s. Those come when a thread gets moved. The mod didn’t take credit when it is “signed” as coming from “?” Also, I have been told that a thread had been moved. It wasn’t. It was simply deleted. So, is it whining to ask where it was supposedly “moved?”

Also, let’s say there is no ban. So, I can still post. I receive some mod action like a “warning.” Ok. The rules say I should take that up with the mod. It’s like arguing with the umpire. The call is going to stand. So, instead, we can send a pm to all the mods.

I am curious if that has ever led to a reversal? But the bigger question is “why?” Why should a mod action be immunized from fuller public scrutiny? Why is it “whining” to make it a “feedback” comment for the mod, all mods and all interested members to ponder? Why shouldn’t it be a public challenge to a ruling?

I ask all of these as examples only. I generally like the Board. I am ok with some moderation (even if I’m the one on the receiving end). One of my complaints has been about immoderate moderation. Why shouldn’t that kind of complaint be allowed to be made in public?