The 50 most developed countries in the world and Universal Healthcare.

If there is a country with a better military than the United States military out there, name it.
That Murica can bomb the fuck out of everyone better than anyone on the globe, is irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is one of the most wasteful and corrupt parts of the entire Alphabet Soup Mafia....That you'd use it as a model of "success" just shows how disconnected you are from anything resembling reality...Oh, and the VA sucks donkey balls.

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.
Irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is as inefficient, wasteful, and corrupt an agency that you can find....And it treats its own people -the troops- like total shit.

But I can understand why a bootlicking neocon tool like you would try to use it as evidence of "success"...You just love you some crony corporatism at home and do-gooder meddling abroad.
 
“Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens?”

Because conservatives have successfully propagated the lie that in addition to being ‘too expensive,’ providing all Americans access to affordable healthcare will ‘destroy capitalism’ and make America ‘socialist’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

Well, there is a lot of capitalism among those 50 most developed countries. I mean, most Billionaires in the world live in those 50 most developed countries. Most of the large private Business's, Large corporations, multi-national corporations in the world are located in those 50 most developed countries. I would also say that most business activity in the world and most profit is made in those 50 most developed countries. With the exception of five of them, all of them provide Universal Healthcare of their citizens. Rather than being unusual, Universal Healthcare is a common feature among wealthy, developed, capitalist, democratic countries.

There are only five oddballs that don't provide among the 50:

01. Cyprus - within 5 years Cyprus will have Universal Healthcare
02. Bahrain
03. United Arab Emirates
04. Qatar
05. United States

I think the United States has a lot to learn from the other 49 most developed countries in the world.


Look no further than the VA if you want to see how "Universal Health Care" would go. Only it would be twice as bad as the VA.

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.
Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.
It already was before you socialist assholes started messing around with it.
 
Well, since the United States is part of the above list, I already live in one. We just need to provide are citizens with universal healthcare like all the other utopia's already do and then were good.

We may be able to do that if everyone was paying 2000 a month for coverage .
Other countries can manage it out of general tax revenues. Why can't we? :dunno:

Norway has 5 million people. When they take 60 percent of your income, they can offer you crappy healthcare.
Norway is number 1 best place to live
What we can learn from the ‘best place’
Make sure your country is situated over an ocean of oil.
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“Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens?”

Because conservatives have successfully propagated the lie that in addition to being ‘too expensive,’ providing all Americans access to affordable healthcare will ‘destroy capitalism’ and make America ‘socialist’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

Well, there is a lot of capitalism among those 50 most developed countries. I mean, most Billionaires in the world live in those 50 most developed countries. Most of the large private Business's, Large corporations, multi-national corporations in the world are located in those 50 most developed countries. I would also say that most business activity in the world and most profit is made in those 50 most developed countries. With the exception of five of them, all of them provide Universal Healthcare of their citizens. Rather than being unusual, Universal Healthcare is a common feature among wealthy, developed, capitalist, democratic countries.

There are only five oddballs that don't provide among the 50:

01. Cyprus - within 5 years Cyprus will have Universal Healthcare
02. Bahrain
03. United Arab Emirates
04. Qatar
05. United States

I think the United States has a lot to learn from the other 49 most developed countries in the world.


Look no further than the VA if you want to see how "Universal Health Care" would go. Only it would be twice as bad as the VA.

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.
Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat
 
Ask the people watching shrimp on a treadmill.
Wtf does that even mean?
Well first it means that you are uninformed.
Secondly it is the reason Americans can't have nice things via their taxes.


All countries have dumb shit like that, yet still manage to fund healthcare for all. Except the richest country in the world.

The collapse of the housing & auto industry nearly brought our country to its knees fiscally and you want to double down on the fiscal stupidity.

Simply unreal

We got fucked by the banks. And because of that you don't want universal healthcare. Not logical.

You try to equate universal healthcare to life longevity. People around the globe lead different lifestyles and have a WIDE variety in diet and exercise. Those are the reasons for longer life.
So spare me the bullshit about me lacking logic
 
Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina
/----/ "45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE"
So pick one and move there. Leave us alone - BTW now that those socialist countries have to pay more for their national defense thanks to President Trump - you'll see their FREE healthcare start slipping away.
 
Wtf does that even mean?
Well first it means that you are uninformed.
Secondly it is the reason Americans can't have nice things via their taxes.


All countries have dumb shit like that, yet still manage to fund healthcare for all. Except the richest country in the world.

The collapse of the housing & auto industry nearly brought our country to its knees fiscally and you want to double down on the fiscal stupidity.

Simply unreal

We got fucked by the banks. And because of that you don't want universal healthcare. Not logical.

You try to equate universal healthcare to life longevity. People around the globe lead different lifestyles and have a WIDE variety in diet and exercise. Those are the reasons for longer life.
So spare me the bullshit about me lacking logic

No me, please try again.
 
Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina
/----/ "45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE"
So pick one and move there. Leave us alone - BTW now that those socialist countries have to pay more for their national defense thanks to President Trump - you'll see their FREE healthcare start slipping away.

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False narrative. Communist Russia and Nazi Germany also had national government healthcare.
 
We may be able to do that if everyone was paying 2000 a month for coverage .
Other countries can manage it out of general tax revenues. Why can't we? :dunno:

Norway has 5 million people. When they take 60 percent of your income, they can offer you crappy healthcare.
Norway is number 1 best place to live
What we can learn from the ‘best place’
Make sure your country is situated over an ocean of oil.
View attachment 246365

We passed Russia and SA a few months ago. The permian basin will be yielding a significant percentage to the overall bbls by 2030 vs all of our combined assets. There's a reason why china and russia are trying to infiltrate Venezuela.
 
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Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina
Bandwagon fallacy isn't an argument.

How is it Bandwagon fallacy? Plus claiming that its too expensive or simply impossible is not much of an argument either.
/----/ "How is it Bandwagon fallacy?"
As my parent's generation loved to say: "If everyone else jumped off a bridge - would you?"
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(1) The United States Constitution forbids Congress (the branch that spends money) from establishing a compulsory healthcare system. It would take a Constitutional Amendment for the U.S. to adopt universal healthcare. This is no small point; it is determinative of the issue. And given the requirements for a Constitutional Amendment, it will not happen in the next 25 years, at least.

(2) Essentially all of the "developed" countries who have adopted "universal" healthcare did so before the creation of a vast medical "industry" delivering the professional and skilled services and drugs, and utilizing the incredibly expensive diagnostic and treatment tools that exist today. In the U.S., the market has spawned and mandated a vast network of for-profit, non-profit, and charitable "industries" that deliver the necessary treatments and whatnot that are required. THEREFORE, to try to CONVERT our current healthcare delivery industry to something controlled and paid for by Government would create the WORST of ALL WORLDS. Horribly expensive care delivered by government employees. Corruption and graft, fraud, waste, and abuse at previously unheard of levels. Literally, the worst of all worlds. And not to get ethnic about, the biggest thieves and exploiters would be the foreign-born doctors, as demonstrated in the Medicare and Medicaid fraud experience currently.

(3) The vast majority of Americans are satisfied with their healthcare. They get health insurance through an employer, or they are on Medicare or Medicaid, and they pretty much get all the medical care they need. The people who are "suffering" are the outliers with crappy jobs who make "too much" for one set of benefits, but "not enough" for the care they want. But these are a small minority.

Finally (4), in spite of all the criticism, the U.S. is absolutely in the top tier of healthcare delivery in the world. Most of the complaints are based on cherry-picked statistics (e.g., infant mortality, which most countries lie about), and there is no better country in which to try to survive cancer, heart disease, stroke, and so on. No better country in which to need a transplant, elective surgery, or non-emergency surgery.

Every healthcare system has its "sweet spots" and areas where it falls short. Life has inevitable tradeoffs. Is it any wonder that Leftists are the ones constantly complaining about this sort of thing? Complain about insoluble or non-existent "problems," then blame Conservatives for impeding "progress." Constant, repetitive bullshit; that's all they are good for.

The current for profit healthcare system is bankrupting the country. We spend more per person on healthcare than any country in the world and we are at 34th in terms of life expectancy. As percentage of GDP, health care spending per year is 22%. Compare that to military spending which is only 4% of annual GDP. If your are RICH, upper middle class, you can get excellent care in the United States equal to many other countries in the world, but you'll pay twice as much for it here as you would in other countries.

Most of the U.S. population is moving towards the Democratic party when it comes to managing healthcare. You'll see more moves towards Universal Healthcare after the Democrats take back the Senate and White House in 2020. Its pathetic that the United States is one of only 5 of the 50 most developed countries in the world not to provide its citizens with Universal Healthcare. But I believe change is coming. Support for Universal healthcare in the United States is much higher today than it was 20 years ago.
 
(1) The United States Constitution forbids Congress (the branch that spends money) from establishing a compulsory healthcare system. It would take a Constitutional Amendment for the U.S. to adopt universal healthcare. This is no small point; it is determinative of the issue. And given the requirements for a Constitutional Amendment, it will not happen in the next 25 years, at least.

(2) Essentially all of the "developed" countries who have adopted "universal" healthcare did so before the creation of a vast medical "industry" delivering the professional and skilled services and drugs, and utilizing the incredibly expensive diagnostic and treatment tools that exist today. In the U.S., the market has spawned and mandated a vast network of for-profit, non-profit, and charitable "industries" that deliver the necessary treatments and whatnot that are required. THEREFORE, to try to CONVERT our current healthcare delivery industry to something controlled and paid for by Government would create the WORST of ALL WORLDS. Horribly expensive care delivered by government employees. Corruption and graft, fraud, waste, and abuse at previously unheard of levels. Literally, the worst of all worlds. And not to get ethnic about, the biggest thieves and exploiters would be the foreign-born doctors, as demonstrated in the Medicare and Medicaid fraud experience currently.

(3) The vast majority of Americans are satisfied with their healthcare. They get health insurance through an employer, or they are on Medicare or Medicaid, and they pretty much get all the medical care they need. The people who are "suffering" are the outliers with crappy jobs who make "too much" for one set of benefits, but "not enough" for the care they want. But these are a small minority.

Finally (4), in spite of all the criticism, the U.S. is absolutely in the top tier of healthcare delivery in the world. Most of the complaints are based on cherry-picked statistics (e.g., infant mortality, which most countries lie about), and there is no better country in which to try to survive cancer, heart disease, stroke, and so on. No better country in which to need a transplant, elective surgery, or non-emergency surgery.

Every healthcare system has its "sweet spots" and areas where it falls short. Life has inevitable tradeoffs. Is it any wonder that Leftists are the ones constantly complaining about this sort of thing? Complain about insoluble or non-existent "problems," then blame Conservatives for impeding "progress." Constant, repetitive bullshit; that's all they are good for.

The current for profit healthcare system is bankrupting the country. We spend more per person on healthcare than any country in the world and we are at 34th in terms of life expectancy. As percentage of GDP, health care spending per year is 22%. Compare that to military spending which is only 4% of annual GDP. If your are RICH, upper middle class, you can get excellent care in the United States equal to many other countries in the world, but you'll pay twice as much for it here as you would in other countries.

Most of the U.S. population is moving towards the Democratic party when it comes to managing healthcare. You'll see more moves towards Universal Healthcare after the Democrats take back the Senate and White House in 2020. Its pathetic that the United States is one of only 5 of the 50 most developed countries in the world not to provide its citizens with Universal Healthcare. But I believe change is coming. Support for Universal healthcare in the United States is much higher today than it was 20 years ago.
The current system is loaded down with gubmint interference and third-party payors...And you sit there and act as though this is completely unrelated to the high costs.

BTW, factoids aren't arguments either.
 
Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina
We have a Uniformed federal health service. There is no provision for excuses in the federal doctrine.
 
Below are the 50 most developed countries in the world ranked according to the UN Human Development index which measures development and standard of living through estimates of GDP per capita, life expectancy, and education. There are a total of 197 countries in the world today. 193 of those countries are part of the United Nations. 45 out of the 50 most developed countries in the world below provide UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for its citizens, essentially medicare for all. The following are the five countries from the list below that do not:

01. Cyprus
02. United Arab Emirates
03. Qatar
04. Bahrain
05. United States

Cyprus is currently In the process of moving to a Universal Healthcare system which will be completed in a few years. That will leave the United States alone with three Arab countries as being the only countries, of the 50 most developed in the world, that do not have Universal HealthCare.

Why does the United States, the wealthiest country in the world and the 3rd wealthiest per captia country, still not provide Universal Healthcare for its citizens? How could anyone say that Universal HealthCare is impossible or too expensive for the United States when nearly all of the 50 most developed countries in the world provide it for its citizens?


50 MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD RANKED:


01 - Norway
02 - Switzerland
03 - Australia
04 - Ireland
05 - Germany
06 - Iceland
07 - San Marino
08 - Sweden
09 - Singapore
10 - Netherlands
11 - Denmark
12 Canada
13 - United States
14 - United Kingdom
15 - Monaco
16 - Vatican City
17 - Finland
18 - New Zealand
19 - Belgium
20 - Liechtenstein
21 - Japan
22 - Austria
23 - Luxembourg
24 - Israel
25 - Taiwan
26 - South Korea
27 - France
28 - Slovenia
29 - Spain
30 - Czech Republic
31 - Italy
32 - Malta
33 - Estonia
34 - Greece
35 - Cyprus
36 - Poland
37 - United Arab Emirates
38 - Andorra
39 - Lithuania
40 - Qatar
41 - Slovakia
42 - Brunei
43 - Saudi Arabia
44 - Latvia
45 - Portugal
46 - Bahrain
47 - Chile
48 - Hungary
49 - Croatia
50 - Argentina


Yes....and the only way they can afford their health care? The United States protects them with our military...and our nation provides all the drug research and medical innovation. Without us protecting them and providing them with miracle medicine, they wouldn't have anything.....and in fact, their universal healthcare systems are still poorly run and running out of money.......there is no free lunch....but the socialists will never realize that.

If we go to Universal Healthcare without market forces.....the healthcare systems of the welfare nations will collapse.....we will no longer be able to protect them from each other, and from Russia and China....they will have to pony up for their own national defense.....and their medical systems will stagnate and never advance....

In terms of actual combat brigades on the ground in Europe, main battle tanks, artillery, helicopters, combat aircraft, European countries outnumber the total U.S. forces that are stationed in Europe. So they are actually as whole providing for most of their defense. We actually need to base more troops in Europe given Russians actions over the past few years.
 
In terms of actual combat brigades on the ground in Europe, main battle tanks, artillery, helicopters, combat aircraft, European countries outnumber the total U.S. forces that are stationed in Europe. So they are actually as whole providing for most of their defense. We actually need to base more troops in Europe given Russians actions over the past few years.
You are goddamned insane.
 
(1) The United States Constitution forbids Congress (the branch that spends money) from establishing a compulsory healthcare system. It would take a Constitutional Amendment for the U.S. to adopt universal healthcare. This is no small point; it is determinative of the issue. And given the requirements for a Constitutional Amendment, it will not happen in the next 25 years, at least.

(2) Essentially all of the "developed" countries who have adopted "universal" healthcare did so before the creation of a vast medical "industry" delivering the professional and skilled services and drugs, and utilizing the incredibly expensive diagnostic and treatment tools that exist today. In the U.S., the market has spawned and mandated a vast network of for-profit, non-profit, and charitable "industries" that deliver the necessary treatments and whatnot that are required. THEREFORE, to try to CONVERT our current healthcare delivery industry to something controlled and paid for by Government would create the WORST of ALL WORLDS. Horribly expensive care delivered by government employees. Corruption and graft, fraud, waste, and abuse at previously unheard of levels. Literally, the worst of all worlds. And not to get ethnic about, the biggest thieves and exploiters would be the foreign-born doctors, as demonstrated in the Medicare and Medicaid fraud experience currently.

(3) The vast majority of Americans are satisfied with their healthcare. They get health insurance through an employer, or they are on Medicare or Medicaid, and they pretty much get all the medical care they need. The people who are "suffering" are the outliers with crappy jobs who make "too much" for one set of benefits, but "not enough" for the care they want. But these are a small minority.

Finally (4), in spite of all the criticism, the U.S. is absolutely in the top tier of healthcare delivery in the world. Most of the complaints are based on cherry-picked statistics (e.g., infant mortality, which most countries lie about), and there is no better country in which to try to survive cancer, heart disease, stroke, and so on. No better country in which to need a transplant, elective surgery, or non-emergency surgery.

Every healthcare system has its "sweet spots" and areas where it falls short. Life has inevitable tradeoffs. Is it any wonder that Leftists are the ones constantly complaining about this sort of thing? Complain about insoluble or non-existent "problems," then blame Conservatives for impeding "progress." Constant, repetitive bullshit; that's all they are good for.

The current for profit healthcare system is bankrupting the country. We spend more per person on healthcare than any country in the world and we are at 34th in terms of life expectancy. As percentage of GDP, health care spending per year is 22%. Compare that to military spending which is only 4% of annual GDP. If your are RICH, upper middle class, you can get excellent care in the United States equal to many other countries in the world, but you'll pay twice as much for it here as you would in other countries.

Most of the U.S. population is moving towards the Democratic party when it comes to managing healthcare. You'll see more moves towards Universal Healthcare after the Democrats take back the Senate and White House in 2020. Its pathetic that the United States is one of only 5 of the 50 most developed countries in the world not to provide its citizens with Universal Healthcare. But I believe change is coming. Support for Universal healthcare in the United States is much higher today than it was 20 years ago.
Yeah, that's why Obamacare is so popular, huh. It's so popular that the Democrat party stopped calling it "Obamacare".
 
We may be able to do that if everyone was paying 2000 a month for coverage .
Other countries can manage it out of general tax revenues. Why can't we? :dunno:

Norway has 5 million people. When they take 60 percent of your income, they can offer you crappy healthcare.
Norway is number 1 best place to live
What we can learn from the ‘best place’
Make sure your country is situated over an ocean of oil.
View attachment 246365
Crude oil production per capita

Norway 313,661
Saudi Arabia 324,866
UAE 335,103
 

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