The 50 most developed countries in the world and Universal Healthcare.

[bripat9643]

If there is a country with a better military than the United States military out there, name it.

That Murica can bomb the fuck out of everyone better than anyone on the globe, is irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is one of the most wasteful and corrupt parts of the entire Alphabet Soup Mafia....That you'd use it as a model of "success" just shows how disconnected you are from anything resembling reality...Oh, and the VA sucks donkey balls.

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.

Irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is as inefficient, wasteful, and corrupt an agency that you can find....And it treats its own people -the troops- like total shit.

But I can understand why a bootlicking neocon tool like you would try to use it as evidence of "success"...You just love you some crony corporatism at home and do-gooder meddling abroad.

The Pentagon beats the U.S. private health care system in terms of performance and especially in terms of cost.

Really? You mean all those veterans didn't really die waiting to be treated by the VA?

 

[2aguy]

Look no further than the VA if you want to see how "Universal Health Care" would go. Only it would be twice as bad as the VA.

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

 

[sparky]

I really didn't thing one thread could repeat , let alone hold, so many falacies here

~S~

 

[Taz]

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

But at least they’ll have guns!

 

[2aguy]

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

But at least they’ll have guns!

No....guns are one of the first things the government takes once they become socialist......just like Venezuela......

 

[Oddball]

I really didn't thing one thread could repeat , let alone hold, so many falacies here

~S~

Old Edge is chock-full of them.

 

[U2Edge]

Are you nuts? The VA is one of the worst healthcare systems in the World........you have no idea what you are talking about.....

And he wants to deploy more troops in Europe, to guard against RUSSIA!

He's certifiably insane.

Of course, you would think that is in insane. Your a Trump supporter, a man who is essentially an agent of the Russian Federation. The Russians just invaded and annexed Crimea from the Ukraine in 2014. The possibility that they may try annex parts of Estonia and Latvia, two NATO countries, just went up. NATO as a whole does not have enough forces defending its eastern border area with Russia. Historically, such weakness and a lack of deterrence increases the odds of military aggression by a country like Russia.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Look no further than the VA if you want to see how "Universal Health Care" would go. Only it would be twice as bad as the VA.

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Actually they are on Medicaid and how does health insurance impact eating habits. I vehemently disagree with you.

 

[Taz]

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

But at least they’ll have guns!

No....guns are one of the first things the government takes once they become socialist......just like Venezuela......

No guns in Venezuela? How can you live with yourself?

 

[Oddball]

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

Look, he's using the Pentagon as his model of efficiency and effectiveness....That should disqualify anyone from commenting on the topic right out of the gate.

 

[Oddball]

Well, with Universal Healthcare in Japan, Italy and France, the people there live longer than in the United States. Works just fine, everyone is covered, and those countries only spend half of what the United States does on healthcare as a percentage of GDP.

Then move

Problem solved

I'm interested in making my country a better place to live. I wanted it to be #1 in healthcare and quality of life.

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Actually they are on Medicaid and how does health insurance impact eating habits. I vehemently disagree with you.

Because then the gubmint will then become the food Gestapo....That's how militant socialists roll.

 

[Norman]

The leftists who believe in diversity actually believe that everything has to be done one way - their stupid leftist way.

What a shock.

 

[whitehall]

You almost gotta laugh at the determination of the left to trash their own Country (during republican administrations)

 

[Oddball]

Are you nuts? The VA is one of the worst healthcare systems in the World........you have no idea what you are talking about.....

And he wants to deploy more troops in Europe, to guard against RUSSIA!

He's certifiably insane.

Of course, you would think that is in insane. Your a Trump supporter, a man who is essentially an agent of the Russian Federation. The Russians just invaded and annexed Crimea from the Ukraine in 2014. The possibility that they may try annex parts of Estonia and Latvia, two NATO countries, just went up. NATO as a whole does not have enough forces defending its eastern border area with Russia. Historically, such weakness and a lack of deterrence increases the odds of military aggression by a country like Russia.

I'm not a Trump supporter...In fact, I didn't vote at all...You've lost the original argument and now need to make it about me.

And you are still fucking madman.

 

[Lesh]

Yea...because "god fearing" white trash girls never do that right?

Oh wait...they do. All over the place

How does that have anything to do with your claim that white girls don't get pregnant at 14?

 

[U2Edge]

If there is a country with a better military than the United States military out there, name it.

That Murica can bomb the fuck out of everyone better than anyone on the globe, is irrelevant to the fact that the Pentagon is one of the most wasteful and corrupt parts of the entire Alphabet Soup Mafia....That you'd use it as a model of "success" just shows how disconnected you are from anything resembling reality...Oh, and the VA sucks donkey balls.

Its #1 at what it does and uses a fraction of the money the U.S. health care system does which is 34th in the world based on the life expectancy of its citizens.

The 34th ranking isn't based solely on life expectancy, nimrod. And life expectancy isn't determined solely by the quality of your healthcare system. After achieving a certain minimum, it's largely based on diet and habits like smoking or drinking.

Europeans smoke and drink more than Americans on average.

They are a lot skinnier than Americans, and they don't have hoards of pregnant teenage girls running around.

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

 

[bripat9643]

Well first it means that you are uninformed.
Secondly it is the reason Americans can't have nice things via their taxes.

All countries have dumb shit like that, yet still manage to fund healthcare for all. Except the richest country in the world.

The collapse of the housing & auto industry nearly brought our country to its knees fiscally and you want to double down on the fiscal stupidity.

Simply unreal

We got fucked by the banks. And because of that you don't want universal healthcare. Not logical.

You try to equate universal healthcare to life longevity. People around the globe lead different lifestyles and have a WIDE variety in diet and exercise. Those are the reasons for longer life.
So spare me the bullshit about me lacking logic

You cannot separate a countries health care system and the life expectancy of its people. Whether a nation is healthy is best determined by life expectancy. Healthcare plays a vital role in extending life.

Actually, largely you can. Once a country's healthcare reaches a certain basic level, life expectancy is determined largely by factors such as sanitation, diet and personal habits such as smoking, drinking and exercise. Simply walking a mile every day will probably increase your life expectancy by 10 years.

 

[Oddball]

That's because they have lower poverty rates. Much of the obese/overweight issues in the United States come from those in poverty and the lower class. Lack of access to medical care/advise and lack of access to quality healthy food at an affordable price. Universal Healthcare in the United States would help eliminate this problem.

Only if you use The State to actively police people's eating habits...Which an authoritarian stooge like you would have no problem with.

 

[whitehall]

The U.S. supports (with free medical care) twenty times the population of Qatar in illegal aliens and the crazy left is determined to keep the borders open. Try entering Qatar without a passport and find out how ugly Arab jails can be.

 

[2aguy]

Then you want to be proactive and not reactive. We are the fattest country in the world. That is unhealthy and causes the shorter life spans. A ton of fast food and bad eats joints. Bad food costs less. Tackle that instead of universal healthcare because everyone in every party likely agrees that the country is fat

Universal Healthcare is the best way to make progress on the overweight/obese issue. Most of the overweight/obese issues are with people in poverty or in the lower class with no health insurance at all.

Yes...actually, it is. Once the government takes over healthcare, they stop providing quality healthcare, so overweight people die....then, the government increases the economic collapse of the country so that food becomes so hard to get, people lose weight because they run out of house pets to eat.......

But at least they’ll have guns!

No....guns are one of the first things the government takes once they become socialist......just like Venezuela......

No guns in Venezuela? How can you live with yourself?

Yes....the government has the guns.....and the thugs run by the government are killing innocent people....just like you guys want.