Terri Schiavo's Husband: Jeb Bush 'Put Me Through Hell'

[Lakhota]

The fact that liberals fight to defend the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, the due process rights of immigrants, and the voting rights of minorities from attack by conservatives who use the power and authority of the state to compel conformity demonstrates your statement to be false and a lie.

I've never heard it stated more profoundly. Thank you!

 

[Dana7360]

To go with your signature Bullshitter!

No surprise here. Again, your diseased mind has no way of making rational evaluations so you naturally cast me as the imaginary thing that scares you the most. Just so you can't say that you didn't know,

I'm more of a liberal than a socialist, even though I love the pure socialist parts of our government, like Social Security, and Police, Fire Departments, ant the most highly funded socialist program we have, the military. Those are all funded by everybody and are supposed to give everybody equal protection and benefits to everyone. I know it doesn't always work that way, but it's supposed to.

I'm a Christian, but I'm also disgusted with the hate demonstrated by people who claim the cloak of Christianity but behave so differently than Jesus taught.

I have guns myself, but I'm not stupid enough to think reasonable restrictions don't make good sense.

I believe in free speech even for idiots like you, but know each person is still responsible for their statements.

I know it's none of my business poking my nose in a decision that should be made only by a woman, her doctor, and any loved ones she might want to include.

Of course I have no doubt that a teabagger like you will ignore what I just wrote, preferring to do battle with the imaginary librul in your mind, but at least you have been exposed to the truth.

Police and fire department are socialist?

wow

yes

Based on what, I mean besides your misunderstanding of the word

This is another example of dumb assed right wingers throwing the word socialism around in hopes that it will be taken as a generic term for "BAD". Typical shit.
The definition of Socialism is

Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam ...
Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Onlinesocialism
Merriam‑Webster
Full Definition of SOCIALISM. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

In the case of the Fire Department or Police, the distributed "GOODS" are the services these two departments provide. We collectively pay for these through government collected taxes, and the government controls both departments based on laws written by our elected officials. Pure Socialism, even if you didn't know that before now.............Dumbass.

I would add that our military is also socialism.

It's 100% owned and controlled by the government. They don't make anything or sell anything. They don't generate a penny of revenue much less profit. The military is 100% funded by tax dollars. There are no stocks or bonds that are sold and they aren't listed on any stock exchange.

Yet the republicans love the military.

Republicans love socialism. Just their type of socialism. Which is privatize the profits, socialize the losses.

Big business are 100% into capitalism. That is until they lose money. Then they become socialists and force us taxpayers to pay for their losses.

 

[Synthaholic]

The Schiavo case is going to torpedo any chance that Jeb has. Maybe not in the primaries, but definitely in the General.

Funny how the Jeb-hating wingnuts are falling all over themselves to defend him in this thread.

They already know who they will be forced to vote for.

 

[WorldWatcher]

again dumb fuck I know how it used to work, I sold my mustang to my brother for a dollar, sold my condo to my dad for a dollar
And I bought them back for a dollar

So in addition to making things up, you are a fraud. And probably conducted criminal activity to perpetrate that fraud.

Thanks for sharing that, we've learned a lot about you today.



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[BULLDOG]

No surprise here. Again, your diseased mind has no way of making rational evaluations so you naturally cast me as the imaginary thing that scares you the most. Just so you can't say that you didn't know,

I'm more of a liberal than a socialist, even though I love the pure socialist parts of our government, like Social Security, and Police, Fire Departments, ant the most highly funded socialist program we have, the military. Those are all funded by everybody and are supposed to give everybody equal protection and benefits to everyone. I know it doesn't always work that way, but it's supposed to.

I'm a Christian, but I'm also disgusted with the hate demonstrated by people who claim the cloak of Christianity but behave so differently than Jesus taught.

I have guns myself, but I'm not stupid enough to think reasonable restrictions don't make good sense.

I believe in free speech even for idiots like you, but know each person is still responsible for their statements.

I know it's none of my business poking my nose in a decision that should be made only by a woman, her doctor, and any loved ones she might want to include.

Of course I have no doubt that a teabagger like you will ignore what I just wrote, preferring to do battle with the imaginary librul in your mind, but at least you have been exposed to the truth.

Police and fire department are socialist?

wow

yes

Based on what, I mean besides your misunderstanding of the word

This is another example of dumb assed right wingers throwing the word socialism around in hopes that it will be taken as a generic term for "BAD". Typical shit.
The definition of Socialism is

Socialism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam ...
Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Onlinesocialism
Merriam‑Webster
Full Definition of SOCIALISM. 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

In the case of the Fire Department or Police, the distributed "GOODS" are the services these two departments provide. We collectively pay for these through government collected taxes, and the government controls both departments based on laws written by our elected officials. Pure Socialism, even if you didn't know that before now.............Dumbass.

I would add that our military is also socialism.

It's 100% owned and controlled by the government. They don't make anything or sell anything. They don't generate a penny of revenue much less profit. The military is 100% funded by tax dollars. There are no stocks or bonds that are sold and they aren't listed on any stock exchange.

Yet the republicans love the military.

Republicans love socialism. Just their type of socialism. Which is privatize the profits, socialize the losses.

Big business are 100% into capitalism. That is until they lose money. Then they become socialists and force us taxpayers to pay for their losses.

The right wing doesn't even know what socialism is. They want it to be a generic term for "BAD", and try to use it that way, but that just exposes their ignorance even more.

 

[BULLDOG]

The Schiavo case is going to torpedo any chance that Jeb has. Maybe not in the primaries, but definitely in the General.

Funny how the Jeb-hating wingnuts are falling all over themselves to defend him in this thread.

They already know who they will be forced to vote for.

Jeb will never make the General. Considering the field they are presenting, they might come out better by just forfeiting the election and trying to negotiate some sort of settlement.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Man awakens after 12 years in vegetative state says he was aware of everything 8217 WGN-TV
and did you see this? She was also in a vegetative state.

Her brain was GONE. The autopsy was clear: it was not deteriorated, not damaged, not atrophied...gone. She had the mental faculties of a carrot.

 

[Muhammed]

OP identifies with brain-dead people..........jus' sayin.......

Who?
WHo the fuck cares?
The only--ONLY--reason you give a shit is because with Mitt out Jeb looks like the RINO choice, so you have to dig up some shit about some woman from 20 years ago that no one, including you, really give a fuck about. Using other people's tragedies for your advatnage. Yup, you're a lib.
Cocksucker.

Actually, I do give a fuck. The Terri Schiavo case was a royal clusterfuck by GOP NaziCons. It was disgusting!

I didn't follow that case. I think it was Republicans wanted to kill her and Democrats didn't want to kill her. Did I get that right? Killing her would absolutely disgust me

No it was a Scientology cult scam.

Clearwater is controlled by the cult.

This case was even worse than the Lisa McPhereson case. Terri Schiavo had dozens of broken bones and they took her to California and put an electrode in her brain. That's some evil crazy shit.

What a pile of bullshit.

"In the early years of her condition, Michael and the Schindlers got along harmoniously, even living together in a house on the Gulf Coast for a while. They ensured that Terri received all variety of therapies, including physical, occupational and recreational. When those didn't work, Michael flew her out to California, where a doctor implanted platinum electrodes into her brain as part of an experimental procedure that ultimately failed.

Back in Florida, Michael enlisted family members to record audiotapes of their voices, which he played for Terri on a Walkman. He was fastidious about Terri's appearance, spraying her with Picasso perfume and outfitting her in stirrup pants and matching tops from The Limited. At one Florida nursing home, he was so demanding that administrators sought a restraining order against him. But Gloria Centonze, who worked there at the time (and by coincidence later married into the family of Michael's future girlfriend), recalls a frequent comment among the nurses: "He may be a bastard, but if I was sick like that, I wish he was my husband." To better care for Terri, Michael even enrolled in nursing school."

http://www.newsweek.com/legacy-terri-schiavo-115807

 

[Jarlaxle]

And while she was in a nursing home her husband had an affair and 2 kids, then got married after she died.

...after she had been gone for 10+ years!

 

[Jarlaxle]

CLEARWATER, Fla.—Sitting recently on his brick back patio here, Michael Schiavo called Jeb Bush a vindictive, untrustworthy coward.

For years, the self-described “average Joe” felt harassed, targeted and tormented by the most important person in the state.

“It was a living hell,” he said, “and I blame him.”

Michael Schiavo was the husband of Terri Schiavo, the brain-dead woman from the Tampa Bay area who ended up at the center of one of the most contentious, drawn-out conflicts in the history of America’s culture wars. The fight over her death lasted almost a decade. It started as a private legal back-and-forth between her husband and her parents. Before it ended, it moved from circuit courts to district courts to state courts to federal courts, to the U.S. Supreme Court, from the state legislature in Tallahassee to Congress in Washington. The president got involved. So did the pope.

But it never would have become what it became if not for the dogged intervention of the governor of Florida at the time, the second son of the 41st president, the younger brother of the 43rd, the man who sits near the top of the extended early list of likely 2016 Republican presidential candidates. On sustained, concentrated display, seen in thousands of pages of court records and hundreds of emails he sent, was Jeb the converted Catholic, Jeb the pro-life conservative, Jeb the hands-on workaholic, Jeb the all-hours emailer—confident, competitive, powerful, obstinate Jeb. Longtime watchers of John Ellis Bush say what he did throughout the Terri Schiavo case demonstrates how he would operate in the Oval Office. They say it’s the Jebbest thing Jeb’s ever done.

The case showed he “will pursue whatever he thinks is right, virtually forever,” said Aubrey Jewett, a political science professor at the University of Central Florida. “It’s a theme of Jeb’s governorship: He really pushed executive power to the limits.”

Read more: Jeb Put Me Through Hell - POLITICO Magazine

I remember this case very well. It was supreme government overreach by Governor Bush and President Bush.

The man slaughtered his wife who was obviously responsive to her parents. Micheal will find out what real Hell really is.

No, that is a lie. She had ZERO higher brain function and was responsive to nothing. The videos that circulated "showing" she was were heavily edited to do so (and some were outright fakes).

 

[Jarlaxle]

Man awakens after 12 years in vegetative state says he was aware of everything 8217 WGN-TV
and did you see this? She was also in a vegetative state.

Who?
WHo the fuck cares?
The only--ONLY--reason you give a shit is because with Mitt out Jeb looks like the RINO choice, so you have to dig up some shit about some woman from 20 years ago that no one, including you, really give a fuck about. Using other people's tragedies for your advatnage. Yup, you're a lib.
Cocksucker.

Actually, I do give a fuck. The Terri Schiavo case was a royal clusterfuck by GOP NaziCons. It was disgusting!

I didn't follow that case. I think it was Republicans wanted to kill her and Democrats didn't want to kill her. Did I get that right? Killing her would absolutely disgust me

Did you see her brain scans?

Can you imagine Teri's silent screams? "Feed me...this hunger hurts!" I know how it feels to be hungry, but not to the point of torture that liberals put her thru. RIP Teri.

Having no higher brain function, she felt nothing.

 

[Muhammed]

What a pile of bullshit.

No bullshit, just the facts. But I doubt that any brainwashed scientology cult member can discern fact from fiction.

 

[Jarlaxle]

You would think the hell he went through would have been his wife dying and him wanting to kill her off for the insurance money but I guess not.

No matter how many times you regurgitate that, it is STILL A LIE!

 

[Muhammed]

No, that is a lie. She had ZERO higher brain function and was responsive to nothing. The videos that circulated "showing" she was were heavily edited to do so (and some were outright fakes).

Got any proof to back up that ridiculous assertion?

 

[Jarlaxle]

My question is why did they starve her instead of just giving her drugs to kill her quicker???
Starving is not fun. Hell, no water for 3 days and you are dead..and not pleasantly either. They can put people into a coma with really BAD medical probs that cause a lot of pain..why did this woman not get a quick death like we do for our pets?

Because legally, that would have been murder one. (Though, due to her having no brain function, she felt nothing.)

 

[paperview]

What a pile of bullshit.

No bullshit, just the facts. But I doubt that any brainwashed scientology cult member can discern fact from fiction.

what the fuck?

You're nuts, man.

 

[Muhammed]

The assholes here who try to justify the murder of Terri Schiavo are the lowest form of perverted scum.

 

[paperview]

And don't snip my posts without noting you are excising a portion of it.

The portion of course, that shows what you stated is bullshit.


"In the early years of her condition, Michael and the Schindlers got along harmoniously, even living together in a house on the Gulf Coast for a while. They ensured that Terri received all variety of therapies, including physical, occupational and recreational. When those didn't work, Michael flew her out to California, where a doctor implanted platinum electrodes into her brain as part of an experimental procedure that ultimately failed.

Back in Florida, Michael enlisted family members to record audiotapes of their voices, which he played for Terri on a Walkman. He was fastidious about Terri's appearance, spraying her with Picasso perfume and outfitting her in stirrup pants and matching tops from The Limited. At one Florida nursing home, he was so demanding that administrators sought a restraining order against him. But Gloria Centonze, who worked there at the time (and by coincidence later married into the family of Michael's future girlfriend), recalls a frequent comment among the nurses: "He may be a bastard, but if I was sick like that, I wish he was my husband." To better care for Terri, Michael even enrolled in nursing school."

http://www.newsweek.com/legacy-terri-schiavo-115807

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Terri Schiavo case was yet another example of the arrogance common to most conservatives, of their propensity to use the power and authority of the state to compel conformity with their subjective, errant dogma, exhibiting complete disregard for the facts and truth – where in fact Schiavo was dead and the family should have been allowed to address the tragedy privately without the unwarranted, unwanted interference of Bush and other conservatives.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Could you share with us on this insurance money was? Who held the policy? What was the value of the policy? How does it compare with - what - 15 years or so of constant medical care and the legal fees for the lawyers?


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He blew it on legal fees another dumb ass liberal who cherish death over life, all he had to do is let the medical bills pile up and file for bankruptcy

You said he wanted her to die to collect the insurance money, but you haven't told us what this insurance money was? How big was the policy? Was there even an insurance policy?

Her initial condition started in 1990, however it was 8 years before there was a petition to remove the feeding tube.

Eight years of medical bills and you blame it all on blowing it on the lawyers?


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Google is your friend I know

Translation: I got nuth'n.

BTW: This was added to the post. "And you don't seem to understand how bankruptcy works. You don't just get to let bills accumulate, have substantial assets (this mythical insurance policy you refer to) - and then just get to write them off. During bankruptcy assets are used to discharge debts, you don't get to keep them."


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Liberals love to kill their own and protect terrorist for some reason, I don't even get.

You don't 'get it' because both accusations are lies and untrue.

Huh? What? Is this a serious post? Of course liberals love death, hell they Killied what 50 million babys since Roe vs. Wade . They didn't even have the balls to bring bin laden to justice, they just killed him and dumped his body in the ocean. At least bush Jr. brought Saddam to justice.

Now this is n no way a serious post.

Translation ~the three monkeys, one Don't see, one Don't hear, one Don't speak

Yet you keep braying, jackass!