Story of Jesus Christ was entirely fabricated by Roman aristocrats

[guno]

And yet the bible thumpers buy it , hook line and sinker

• Joseph Atwill says Romans 'used Christ as propaganda to pacify subjects'
• Made 'discovery' while reading only surviving account of 1st-century Judea
• Claims dozens of hidden parallels between Emperor TItus Flavius and Jesus
• He said: 'Biography of Jesus is constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories'

American Bible scholar claims ancient confessions prove story of Jesus Christ was entirely fabricated by Roman aristocrats Daily Mail Online

 

[Kosh]

And yet you make the bible thumpers look like they are the most open minded people on the planet..

Silly far left drones..

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Shrug ...

The basic premise of [Atwill's] Caesar’s Messiah is that the Roman Imperial family, the Flavians, invented Jesus by using the Jewish historian Josephus and, presumably, other people to write the gospels after Rome defeated the Jews in 70 AD. The idea was to make the militant Jewish rebels accept a peaceful Messiah and, thereby, give Rome less trouble.


Atwill says that the New Testament was written in a code that requires you to read Josephus’ War of the Jews alongside the New Testament to get the joke. He, of course, is the only person to crack this code, making him super smart.

One of the biggest problems this theory has is the existence of Christianity before 73 AD, when Atwill says that the idea was concocted by the Romans. Quite simply, if Christianity can be demonstrated to exist before that time, this theory is toast.


The famous historian Tacitus says that Nero was persecuting Christians in Rome in 64 AD. He also mentions that “immense multitudes” of Christians were living in Rome at the time. Try to figure out why “immense multitudes” of Christians are in Rome ten years before Christianity was supposed to have been invented.


Suetonius also mentions Nero punishing Christians, as well as many Christian historians. That seems like a bad PR idea to write this kind of stuff: “Hey, everyone! Join the new religion so we can burn you alive and feed you to lions. The signup sheet is right over there.”

Ceasars Messiah Debunked Refuting Joseph Atwill s Theories

 

[Thunderbird]

Instead of Guno's ridiculous lies about Christians, how about some facts about Guno's ethnic group.

Many Jews were involved in the slave trade: R. Austen African Enslavement in History of Blacks and Jews

Enslaving millions of Chinese people to opium: This day in history Global trade tycoon David Sassoon dies - This Day in Jewish History - Haaretz Daily Newspaper Israel News

Another Marxist mass-murderer: Don t idealize Leon Trotsky.

Some Israeli heroes in action: Israeli troops accused of shooting children in Gaza World news The Guardian The real fighting for Israel is done by Americans. Israeli cowards are only good for shooting children.

If you are going to engage in bigoted attacks on the various Gentile groups Guno you should expect to be informed about crimes perpetrated by Jews.

 

[ClosedCaption]

You mean a dude didnt die then rise out the ground later after taking a stroll across a lake?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yawn. Theory Fails, because

1. Nero was persecuting the followers of Christ in Rome 66AD, and
2. Followers of Christ successfully escaped the destruction of Jerusalem per Christ's warning

“When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” (Luke 21:20.)

“Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

“Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

“Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.” (Matt. 24:15–18.)

Progressive drone just believe anything fed into the collective

 

[hadit]

One notes a severe case of obsession in the OP. One also notes that the premise expressed in the OP is, to put it politely, total Barbra Streisand. One notes that the Romans had no need of giving Jewish rebels propaganda to pacify them. The Romans were ruthless and assimilated the conquered. One notes that the OP is basically full of crap.

 

[aris2chat]

And yet the bible thumpers buy it , hook line and sinker

• Joseph Atwill says Romans 'used Christ as propaganda to pacify subjects'
• Made 'discovery' while reading only surviving account of 1st-century Judea
• Claims dozens of hidden parallels between Emperor TItus Flavius and Jesus
• He said: 'Biography of Jesus is constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories'

American Bible scholar claims ancient confessions prove story of Jesus Christ was entirely fabricated by Roman aristocrats Daily Mail Online

The choice if books were political, but too many christians were killed for the belief in Jesus for it to have begun as a pacifier for roman rule. In the process 250,000 jews were crucified. The followers of Jesus were persecuted throughout the empire.

 

[HaShev]

 

[guno]

Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor'

They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system,"

"That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented.

"Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."

"Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history.

 

[guno]

One notes a severe case of obsession in the OP. One also notes that the premise expressed in the OP is, to put it politely, total Barbra Streisand. One notes that the Romans had no need of giving Jewish rebels propaganda to pacify them. The Romans were ruthless and assimilated the conquered. One notes that the OP is basically full of crap.

One notes a severe case of obsession

One notes a severe case of anti intellectualism in your post

 

[HaShev]

Yawn. Theory Fails, because

1. Nero was persecuting the followers of Christ in Rome 66AD, and
2. Followers of Christ successfully escaped the destruction of Jerusalem

1. 
   
   Which christ, there were many and you've yet to pin point one single figure without mixingcthem all.
   Which is what this OP is about.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Which christ, there were many and you've yet to pin point one single figure without mixingcthem all.

Bartholomew Christ

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

1. Which christ, there were many and you've yet to pin point one single figure without mixingcthem all.
   Which is what this OP is about.

Name them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor'

They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system,"

"That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented.

"Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."

"Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history.

Yawn. Theory Fails, because

1. Nero was persecuting the followers of Christ in Rome 66AD, and
2. Followers of Christ successfully escaped the destruction of Jerusalem per Christ's warning

“When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.” (Luke 21:20.)

“Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

“Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

“Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.” (Matt. 24:15–18.)

Progressive drone just believe anything fed into the collective

 

[hadit]

One notes a severe case of obsession in the OP. One also notes that the premise expressed in the OP is, to put it politely, total Barbra Streisand. One notes that the Romans had no need of giving Jewish rebels propaganda to pacify them. The Romans were ruthless and assimilated the conquered. One notes that the OP is basically full of crap.

One notes a severe case of obsession

One notes a severe case of anti intellectualism in your post

Really? Any substantive sources that tell you the Romans needed propaganda to pacify the tiny nation of Israel after they conquered it? You've been given multiple reasonable, intellectual reasons why your source is full of crap, and you want to double down on it?

 

[HaShev]

1. Which christ, there were many and you've yet to pin point one single figure without mixingcthem all.
   Which is what this OP is about.

Name them.

Yeshu son of Mary 100bc
Yehuda ben Tabbai 100bc
The following are the only messianic figures in the time of Lysanias and King Herod.
Yehuda (Judas) son of Hezekiah (4 BCE)
Simon of Peraea (4 BCE)
Athronges, the shepherd (4 BCE)
Yehuda (Judas) the Galilean (6 CE)

The only Ad era at that time was
Theudas by the Jordan

Benjamin the Egyptian was a christ figure but I don't recall his era.

Later in 70 ad of course was BARACOPA who had a large following until he failed his liberation...*hint hint*

 

[HaShev]

One notes a severe case of obsession in the OP. One also notes that the premise expressed in the OP is, to put it politely, total Barbra Streisand. One notes that the Romans had no need of giving Jewish rebels propaganda to pacify them. The Romans were ruthless and assimilated the conquered. One notes that the OP is basically full of crap.

One notes a severe case of obsession

One notes a severe case of anti intellectualism in your post

Really? Any substantive sources that tell you the Romans needed propaganda to pacify the tiny nation of Israel after they conquered it? You've been given multiple reasonable, intellectual reasons why your source is full of crap, and you want to double down on it?

THE revolts, like Yehuda the Galilean tax revolter who was so much a threat that Rome crucified his sons as well and named the bad guy in their story after him so nobody would ever suspect the converging christs.

 

[hadit]

One notes a severe case of obsession in the OP. One also notes that the premise expressed in the OP is, to put it politely, total Barbra Streisand. One notes that the Romans had no need of giving Jewish rebels propaganda to pacify them. The Romans were ruthless and assimilated the conquered. One notes that the OP is basically full of crap.

One notes a severe case of obsession

One notes a severe case of anti intellectualism in your post

Really? Any substantive sources that tell you the Romans needed propaganda to pacify the tiny nation of Israel after they conquered it? You've been given multiple reasonable, intellectual reasons why your source is full of crap, and you want to double down on it?

THE revolts, like Yehuda the Galilean tax revolter who was so much a threat that Rome crucified his sons as well and named the bad guy in their story after him so nobody would ever suspect the converging christs.

Exactly. The Romans were ruthless and violent. They had little need to propagandize the Israelis.

 

[aris2chat]

Yawn. Theory Fails, because

1. Nero was persecuting the followers of Christ in Rome 66AD, and
2. Followers of Christ successfully escaped the destruction of Jerusalem

1. 
   
   Which christ, there were many and you've yet to pin point one single figure without mixingcthem all.
   Which is what this OP is about.

Christ means anointed, Christós.