Something For Which To Be Grateful

[JoeB131]

At the same time the Republican party is trying to force women to have unwanted children. You people need to straighten up your act.

NOt an honest argument. By the logic you just put forth, we should have mandetory abortions for welfare women like the Chinese do.

Personally, I don't think Government should be in the abortion business, either paying for them or restricting them. But the point is, the families of those of us who work for a living restrict the number of kids they have, but the "key democratic constiuency" just keeps pumping them out.... Have a kid? Here's a bag of money. It's Obama money.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgnb8y9VOk]Rush Limbaugh In Line For Obama Money In Detroit - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Cammmpbell]

At the same time the Republican party is trying to force women to have unwanted children. You people need to straighten up your act.

NOt an honest argument. By the logic you just put forth, we should have mandetory abortions for welfare women like the Chinese do.

Personally, I don't think Government should be in the abortion business, either paying for them or restricting them. But the point is, the families of those of us who work for a living restrict the number of kids they have, but the "key democratic constiuency" just keeps pumping them out.... Have a kid? Here's a bag of money. It's Obama money.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgnb8y9VOk]Rush Limbaugh In Line For Obama Money In Detroit - YouTube[/ame]

Horse shit!! Show me a link about mandatory abortions anywhere in the world. China makes a woman sterile after they have had their one child quota. That's a far cry from mandatory abortions.

 

[JoeB131]

Horse shit!! Show me a link about mandatory abortions anywhere in the world. China makes a woman sterile after they have had their one child quota. That's a far cry from mandatory abortions.

How is sterlizing a woman better than forcing an abortion on her? They are both unpleasent surgical procedures....

But, yeah, the Chinese are using mandetory abortion to enforce "one child".

Which Joe Biden praised and said he totally understood.

Joe Biden "Fully Understands" China’s Mandatory Abortions - HUMAN EVENTS

They've walked One Child back a bit because they now realize that they have created other problems when the current generation retires and they will have a very limited base to support them, not to mention the imbalance between men and women.

 

[JoeB131]

As far as the 30%. Don't feel like the lone ranger. Poor people who need transportation to get to their job must pay a payroll tax, a gasoline tax, fees on their phone bill, auto registration fees, if they need to hunt animals to put food on the table they have to buy a license etc. The idea that a rich man pays a higher percentage of taxes than a poor man is the biggest goddam lie ever told and lived out. PERIOD!

You really think there are lots of people who are hunting for sustinence?

I agree that those conservatives who just waive the income tax and not mentioning those other taxes are being disingenous, and I've called them on it when they do it.

That said, the problem here is, the government should not be in the business of wealth redistribution. It certainly should not be in the business of subsidizng bad choices. But that's exactly what the welfare state you love does. Don't get married- have a bag of money. Have kids out of wedlock. Have a bag of money. Don't take a job offered to you because you think you're too good for it? Have a bag of money.

It's the socialist disease in its worst form, the belief the world owes you a living.

 

[Jackson]

The fact that he raised taxes instead of cutting them didn't have anything to do with it

You people are such a fuckin' farce.

Tax rates right now are lower than they were 50 years ago and the Republican party has pledged not to increase them. Wait...it will cost them the election. You can't fuck over people like that and not pay for it.

Well, that's the problem when you let people who are on welfare vote, isn't it?

The takers take from the makers until the makers don't want to bother making anything anymore. What's the point.

You know...this shit happened before. The people digging the coal from a 200 ft. deep mine finally quit and eat shit with the chickens until the owners got tired of not making any money. 'Course a lot of blood was shed before it was over but finally they started paying a miner enough to eat and raise his family.

Yogi said, "It Ain't Over Till It's Over" Right now that's never been more true.

Just because people can't live up to your expectation on starvation wages doesn't make them bad people. It just means they are poor people.

Redefining poverty: America's poor have luxuries, study shows

In fact, the study reported, the average poor American has more living space than the average non-poor European, has full kitchen amenities, a car (a third of the poor have two or more), two color televisions, a DVD player and VCR, and if they have children they were likely to have a game system like an Xbox or Play Station as well.

Further, the home of these families was in good repair, they were able to obtain medical care when needed and the family was not hungry, having sufficient funds to meet all essential needs.

"The USDA also reports that there is no difference in quality of diet between children from high- and low-income home," he writes in the National Review. "Less than one poor household in five experienced temporary ‘reduced food intake and disrupted eating patterns' for lack of financial resources…The majority of poor adults, like the majority of other Americans, are overweight."

Redefining poverty: America's poor have luxuries, study shows | ksl.com

And who is trying to take down the coal jobs?

 

[Cammmpbell]

Horse shit!! Show me a link about mandatory abortions anywhere in the world. China makes a woman sterile after they have had their one child quota. That's a far cry from mandatory abortions.

How is sterlizing a woman better than forcing an abortion on her? They are both unpleasent surgical procedures....

But, yeah, the Chinese are using mandetory abortion to enforce "one child".

Which Joe Biden praised and said he totally understood.

Joe Biden "Fully Understands" China’s Mandatory Abortions - HUMAN EVENTS

They've walked One Child back a bit because they now realize that they have created other problems when the current generation retires and they will have a very limited base to support them, not to mention the imbalance between men and women.

That's bullshit. I told you to show me a link proving that any country in the world uses mandatory abortions.

And there's a helluva difference in abortion and sterili ation...a potential birth. Sterili e a woman who is not pregnant and they will never get pregnant. A woman who is pregnant is one pregnancy past sterili ation.

 

[JoeB131]

Horse shit!! Show me a link about mandatory abortions anywhere in the world. China makes a woman sterile after they have had their one child quota. That's a far cry from mandatory abortions.

How is sterlizing a woman better than forcing an abortion on her? They are both unpleasent surgical procedures....

But, yeah, the Chinese are using mandetory abortion to enforce "one child".

Which Joe Biden praised and said he totally understood.

Joe Biden "Fully Understands" China’s Mandatory Abortions - HUMAN EVENTS

They've walked One Child back a bit because they now realize that they have created other problems when the current generation retires and they will have a very limited base to support them, not to mention the imbalance between men and women.

That's bullshit. I told you to show me a link proving that any country in the world uses mandatory abortions.

And there's a helluva difference in abortion and sterili ation...a potential birth. Sterili e a woman who is not pregnant and they will never get pregnant. A woman who is pregnant is one pregnancy past sterili ation.

Dude what is up with your Z Key. Our own government had acknowledged China has mandetory abortions. This isn't in dispute.

I think you need to ask a woman what would be more intrusive, an abortion (which is an outpatient procedure) or a sterilization (which involves altering major organs.)

 

[daveman]

I'm grateful the thread title doesn't end in a preposition.

Ending a title with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.

 

[daveman]

It's like borrowing from your pension fund to finance current operations. In the private sector, you'd go to jail for that.

Unless you're a union.

 

[Cammmpbell]

How is sterlizing a woman better than forcing an abortion on her? They are both unpleasent surgical procedures....

But, yeah, the Chinese are using mandetory abortion to enforce "one child".

Which Joe Biden praised and said he totally understood.

Joe Biden "Fully Understands" China’s Mandatory Abortions - HUMAN EVENTS

They've walked One Child back a bit because they now realize that they have created other problems when the current generation retires and they will have a very limited base to support them, not to mention the imbalance between men and women.

That's bullshit. I told you to show me a link proving that any country in the world uses mandatory abortions.

And there's a helluva difference in abortion and sterili ation...a potential birth. Sterili e a woman who is not pregnant and they will never get pregnant. A woman who is pregnant is one pregnancy past sterili ation.

Dude what is up with your Z Key. Our own government had acknowledged China has mandetory abortions. This isn't in dispute.

I think you need to ask a woman what would be more intrusive, an abortion (which is an outpatient procedure) or a sterilization (which involves altering major organs.)

Both of my daughters had their families and then had their tubes tied. Just what kind of nightmare scenario does someone have you convinced that sterili ation amounts to...they didn't seem to think it was a big deal.

 

[JoeB131]

That's bullshit. I told you to show me a link proving that any country in the world uses mandatory abortions.

And there's a helluva difference in abortion and sterili ation...a potential birth. Sterili e a woman who is not pregnant and they will never get pregnant. A woman who is pregnant is one pregnancy past sterili ation.

Dude what is up with your Z Key. Our own government had acknowledged China has mandetory abortions. This isn't in dispute.

I think you need to ask a woman what would be more intrusive, an abortion (which is an outpatient procedure) or a sterilization (which involves altering major organs.)

Both of my daughters had their families and then had their tubes tied. Just what kind of nightmare scenario does someone have you convinced that sterili ation amounts to...they didn't seem to think it was a big deal.

They volunteerd to have their tubes tied...

They didn't have the government doing it...

BIg difference.

The letter Z. Learn to love it.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Dude what is up with your Z Key. Our own government had acknowledged China has mandetory abortions. This isn't in dispute.

I think you need to ask a woman what would be more intrusive, an abortion (which is an outpatient procedure) or a sterilization (which involves altering major organs.)

Both of my daughters had their families and then had their tubes tied. Just what kind of nightmare scenario does someone have you convinced that sterili ation amounts to...they didn't seem to think it was a big deal.

They volunteerd to have their tubes tied...

They didn't have the government doing it...

BIg difference.

The letter Z. Learn to love it.

Hey........you're the one who was making it sound like brain surgery.

About the keys which are failing. I have a network here with three computers all running Windows 7. This is my laptop and two keys...four characters counting upper case are failing. The keyboard on this has already been replaced one time and I'm waiting for the January clearances when I'm going to look for the best buy and replace the PC.

I key at 65-70 wpm and I've been retired for 17 years. I'm posting at half a do en places almost constantly. Add to that the fact that ever since I worked rotating shift work for about 10 years when I was young I have been an insomniac and VOILA!! I wear them out fast.

 

[JoeB131]

Both of my daughters had their families and then had their tubes tied. Just what kind of nightmare scenario does someone have you convinced that sterili ation amounts to...they didn't seem to think it was a big deal.

They volunteerd to have their tubes tied...

They didn't have the government doing it...

BIg difference.

The letter Z. Learn to love it.

Hey........you're the one who was making it sound like brain surgery.

About the keys which are failing. I have a network here with three computers all running Windows 7. This is my laptop and two keys...four characters counting upper case are failing. The keyboard on this has already been replaced one time and I'm waiting for the January clearances when I'm going to look for the best buy and replace the PC.

I key at 65-70 wpm and I've been retired for 17 years. I'm posting at half a do en places almost constantly. Add to that the fact that ever since I worked rotating shift work for about 10 years when I was young I have been an insomniac and VOILA!! I wear them out fast.

So you are admitting you are one of these people that George Soros pays to spam message boards with liberal crap? How well does that pay?

Seriously, man, what kind of life do you have that you need to post on a half dozen places at once. I mean, I only post here (at the moment) and I think I'm spending too much time here.

Oh, the point. The point is, you complained that China didn't have mandetory abortions (they do) and that mandetory sterilization was an okay thing (it isn't.)

You know, I get ripped by conservatives for not toeing hte "Greed is Good" line, but man, you seem to make the other side look just as irrational.

 

[Cammmpbell]

They volunteerd to have their tubes tied...

They didn't have the government doing it...

BIg difference.

The letter Z. Learn to love it.

Hey........you're the one who was making it sound like brain surgery.

About the keys which are failing. I have a network here with three computers all running Windows 7. This is my laptop and two keys...four characters counting upper case are failing. The keyboard on this has already been replaced one time and I'm waiting for the January clearances when I'm going to look for the best buy and replace the PC.

I key at 65-70 wpm and I've been retired for 17 years. I'm posting at half a do en places almost constantly. Add to that the fact that ever since I worked rotating shift work for about 10 years when I was young I have been an insomniac and VOILA!! I wear them out fast.

So you are admitting you are one of these people that George Soros pays to spam message boards with liberal crap? How well does that pay?

Seriously, man, what kind of life do you have that you need to post on a half dozen places at once. I mean, I only post here (at the moment) and I think I'm spending too much time here.

Oh, the point. The point is, you complained that China didn't have mandetory abortions (they do) and that mandetory sterilization was an okay thing (it isn't.)

You know, I get ripped by conservatives for not toeing hte "Greed is Good" line, but man, you seem to make the other side look just as irrational.

Won't work...Rupert Murcoch, Grover Norquist and the Koch brothers got it covered.

Look...either show me a link which proves China executes mandatory abortions or stfu.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The fact that he raised taxes instead of cutting them didn't have anything to do with it

You people are such a fuckin' farce.

Tax rates right now are lower than they were 50 years ago and the Republican party has pledged not to increase them. Wait...it will cost them the election. You can't fuck over people like that and not pay for it.

The fact that he raised taxes instead of cutting them didn't have anything to do with it
not much ...the People who took a chance and invested in a new Medium were responsible and some made Billions many made Millions......if Bush Sr. would have won the Election he would have looked good.....even if you were President at that time you would have looked good......


You people are such a fuckin' farce.

and who the fuck is YOU PEOPLE?....they seem to be in every thread.....

 

[daveman]

That's bullshit. I told you to show me a link proving that any country in the world uses mandatory abortions.

And there's a helluva difference in abortion and sterili ation...a potential birth. Sterili e a woman who is not pregnant and they will never get pregnant. A woman who is pregnant is one pregnancy past sterili ation.

Dude what is up with your Z Key. Our own government had acknowledged China has mandetory abortions. This isn't in dispute.

I think you need to ask a woman what would be more intrusive, an abortion (which is an outpatient procedure) or a sterilization (which involves altering major organs.)

Both of my daughters had their families and then had their tubes tied. Just what kind of nightmare scenario does someone have you convinced that sterili ation amounts to...they didn't seem to think it was a big deal.

It wasn't. But if they had been sterilized against their wishes, it would have been.

Idiot.

 

[Harry Dresden]

That said, the problem here is, the government should not be in the business of wealth redistribution. It certainly should not be in the business of subsidizng bad choices. But that's exactly what the welfare state you love does. Don't get married- have a bag of money. Have kids out of wedlock. Have a bag of money. Don't take a job offered to you because you think you're too good for it? Have a bag of money.

It's the socialist disease in its worst form, the belief the world owes you a living.

Joe.....i dont want to work anymore....got a bag or 2 for me?.....

 

[JoeB131]

I already did... but if you want to go there...

ABCNews.com - Breaking news, politics, online news, world news, feature stories, celebrity interviews and more - ABC News

Cases of Forced Abortions Surface in China : NPR

Chinese woman dies during forced abortion: was six months pregnant | LifeSiteNews.com

 

[AquaAthena]

I am very grateful for electricity.

 

[Cammmpbell]

The fact that he raised taxes instead of cutting them didn't have anything to do with it

You people are such a fuckin' farce.

Tax rates right now are lower than they were 50 years ago and the Republican party has pledged not to increase them. Wait...it will cost them the election. You can't fuck over people like that and not pay for it.

The fact that he raised taxes instead of cutting them didn't have anything to do with it
not much ...the People who took a chance and invested in a new Medium were responsible and some made Billions many made Millions......if Bush Sr. would have won the Election he would have looked good.....even if you were President at that time you would have looked good......


You people are such a fuckin' farce.

and who the fuck is YOU PEOPLE?....they seem to be in every thread.....

Like I said...30%-40% of the people who will vote for Obama either can't afford a computer or don't know how to use one. A lot of them can't even speak good english. You people get on here and cajole and stroke one another and like Fox News lie to one another and go to bed feeling like you've been to church. Hang around...like Yogi said, "It Ain't Over Till It's Over"