So what I dont believe in God?

[sealybobo]

I believe when my time comes that's it.

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a meaningless existence - irregardless the influences that guide your Spirit before you perish, or your influence to others has no sense ?

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Who has a meaningless existence? If the humans 1 million years ago didn't exist we wouldnt exist and the humans 1 million years from now have us to thank.

And I'm a positive impact on everyone who knows me. I'm even trying to help you.

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If the humans 1 million years ago didn't exist we wouldnt exist and ...

I believe when my time comes that's it.

then you refer to past history why you existed, so what do you mean by " that"s it " ?

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Remember what it was like the 13 billion years before you were born? That's what its like after your dead. Nothing lives forever including your spirit.

 

[Meriweather]

You'll find athiest want the same things you want. Minus any guilt for watching porn. But you dont have to believe in god to want justice fairness love or people to behave. Do kids need Santa to learn naughty and nice?

We have a secular society and no one credible is even considering inverting the bible into our laws like Muslims do in Arab nations. Why not? Because belief in god is not a requirement for being good or happy.

Yes we can abort without worrying about hell.

Worrying about being sent to a torturous hell must be a Protestant or atheist thing. Jews do not believe in hell, and the majority of Christians believe hell to be a choice of not having to live eternally in the presence of God, not a place of torture.

Note I did not say God is necessary in order for people to want justice, marriage, love, or for people to behave. I asked about the ideal. What is the ideal justice; the ideal marriage; the ideal love; the ideal behavior?

I asked whether it is your experience that atheists strive for the ideal, or are they more accepting of whatever justice is obtained, whatever marriage is, whatever consideration we show our fellowman, that any nominal behavior is all good enough.

 

[HaShev]

Sealy of course it matters, how in the world can anyone argue a word that they haven't learned the definition to?
Each culture and faith may use the same word but define them differently.
Example: if someone from England asks you for a fag, you have to know his definition of the word as cigarette to understand and act properly and accordingly otherwise you might punch him in the face for your missunderstanding through the USE & definition you grew up on in the U.S.
You are doing this with the word God, seeing a forbidden figure form of fantasy when other cultures see it as describing Life's Essence.
Therefore you can believe life's essence is evolution aka progressions to all it can be and Judaism's God can be that Essence not some anthropromorphized deity and you both have the same understanding but you are fighting against yourself because you fsiled to defibe a word you argued over=plain stupid.

Give me an example of how it matters or is relavent. We sent people to help in tebit and Haiti for example. I'm an athiest. I am in full support of our goverment giving them aid for example. So no god is necessary to do the right thing. To me god is irrelivent.

No offesnse but we
can't explain something even simple to you if you have blinders on and only see one definition of the term God and have not defined the word or understood the usage ftom the debaters perspective.
Your reply was saying life was irrelivent-you know how silly that is. I think you are trolling, nobody is this wifty.

 

[sealybobo]

You'll find athiest want the same things you want. Minus any guilt for watching porn. But you dont have to believe in god to want justice fairness love or people to behave. Do kids need Santa to learn naughty and nice?

We have a secular society and no one credible is even considering inverting the bible into our laws like Muslims do in Arab nations. Why not? Because belief in god is not a requirement for being good or happy.

Yes we can abort without worrying about hell.

Worrying about being sent to a torturous hell must be a Protestant or atheist thing. Jews do not believe in hell, and the majority of Christians believe hell to be a choice of not having to live eternally in the presence of God, not a place of torture.

Note I did not say God is necessary in order for people to want justice, marriage, love, or for people to behave. I asked about the ideal. What is the ideal justice; the ideal marriage; the ideal love; the ideal behavior?

I asked whether it is your experience that atheists strive for the ideal, or are they more accepting of whatever justice is obtained, whatever marriage is, whatever consideration we show our fellowman, that any nominal behavior is all good enough.

What type of behaviors?

 

[sealybobo]

Sealy of course it matters, how in the world can anyone argue a word that they haven't learned the definition to?
Each culture and faith may use the same word but define them differently.
Example: if someone from England asks you for a fag, you have to know his definition of the word as cigarette to understand and act properly and accordingly otherwise you might punch him in the face for your missunderstanding through the USE & definition you grew up on in the U.S.
You are doing this with the word God, seeing a forbidden figure form of fantasy when other cultures see it as describing Life's Essence.
Therefore you can believe life's essence is evolution aka progressions to all it can be and Judaism's God can be that Essence not some anthropromorphized deity and you both have the same understanding but you are fighting against yourself because you fsiled to defibe a word you argued over=plain stupid.

Give me an example of how it matters or is relavent. We sent people to help in tebit and Haiti for example. I'm an athiest. I am in full support of our goverment giving them aid for example. So no god is necessary to do the right thing. To me god is irrelivent.

No offesnse but we
can't explain something even simple to you if you have blinders on and only see one definition of the term God and have not defined the word or understood the usage ftom the debaters perspective.
Your reply was saying life was irrelivent-you know how silly that is. I think you are trolling, nobody is this wifty.

If you dont impregnate your wife tonight the baby you didn't have is not precious and doesnt go to heaven with the trillions of other humans that once walked on this planet.

 

[Meriweather]

What type of behaviors?

Any and all behaviors. In anything that you choose to do, is there an ideal way to behave?

 

[sealybobo]

What type of behaviors?

Any and all behaviors. In anything that you choose to do, is there an ideal way to behave?

Yes. I dont shoot people because they drew a picture of god.

 

[sealybobo]

What type of behaviors?

Any and all behaviors. In anything that you choose to do, is there an ideal way to behave?

When I go to work I'm going to do my best.

My parents are old and sick. Ive been there fri-sunday and I'm going after work to check on them tonight.

My brother the christian doesnt call my parents as often as he should because he gets sad. Suck it up pussy! They need you! Doesnt the bible teach this?

And he didn't come to see gramma in the hospital every night even though he lived closer because it made him sad.

No god needed for me to be more ideal than you.

 

[HaShev]

Sealy of course it matters, how in the world can anyone argue a word that they haven't learned the definition to?
Each culture and faith may use the same word but define them differently.
Example: if someone from England asks you for a fag, you have to know his definition of the word as cigarette to understand and act properly and accordingly otherwise you might punch him in the face for your missunderstanding through the USE & definition you grew up on in the U.S.
You are doing this with the word God, seeing a forbidden figure form of fantasy when other cultures see it as describing Life's Essence.
Therefore you can believe life's essence is evolution aka progressions to all it can be and Judaism's God can be that Essence not some anthropromorphized deity and you both have the same understanding but you are fighting against yourself because you fsiled to defibe a word you argued over=plain stupid.

Give me an example of how it matters or is relavent. We sent people to help in tebit and Haiti for example. I'm an athiest. I am in full support of our goverment giving them aid for example. So no god is necessary to do the right thing. To me god is irrelivent.

No offesnse but we
can't explain something even simple to you if you have blinders on and only see one definition of the term God and have not defined the word or understood the usage ftom the debaters perspective.
Your reply was saying life was irrelivent-you know how silly that is. I think you are trolling, nobody is this wifty.

If you dont impregnate your wife tonight the baby you didn't have is not precious and doesnt go to heaven with the trillions of other humans that once walked on this planet.

1) That makes no sense to the topic
2) wouldn't you need to find out if I was male or female, straight or gay, and what my definition of heaven was before you mske such an analogy?
See your premise keeps using one failed faith's precept of God, heaven etc but that is notcthe usage and definition us sane people use. So the followers end up victims but then so to are the skeptics who use their precepts in arguing the terms they've YET TO DEFINE AND UNDERSTAND.

 

[Meriweather]

Yes. I dont shoot people because they drew a picture of god.

Not shooting people over God is the ideal behavior, the best behavior that may be attained?

 

[Meriweather]

When I go to work I'm going to do my best.

My parents are old and sick. Ive been there fri-sunday and I'm going after work to check on them tonight.

My brother the christian doesnt call my parents as often as he should because he gets sad. Suck it up pussy! They need you! Doesnt the bible teach this?

And he didn't come to see gramma in the hospital every night even though he lived closer because it made him sad.

No god needed for me to be more ideal than you.

We don't measure the ideal by one-upping or by looking down on siblings or even members here on this board. What about your behavior and attitude towards those here? I am curious as to whether you regard it as ideal?

 

[theword]

Seriously, what does it matter if someone believes in God? I've been talking to many theists who dont believe in hell or they say their religion doesnt say non believers go to hell so who cares if people dont believe? Especially if they are good people.

I believe this threat of hell is key to recruiting members. Even my theist buddy who doesnt believe in hell said to me "you just gotta believe". Why?

It makes no difference whether you believe in God or not to go on to the next age where all created beings will get new bodies to experience life with.

 

[hadit]

I see a LOT more threads on this board about how believers should NOT believe in God (are stupid, insane, ignorant, pick your juvenile insult) than I do about how non-believers are going to hell. Anyone see the contrary?

 

[BreezeWood]

Seriously, what does it matter if someone believes in God? I've been talking to many theists who dont believe in hell or they say their religion doesnt say non believers go to hell so who cares if people dont believe? Especially if they are good people.

I believe this threat of hell is key to recruiting members. Even my theist buddy who doesnt believe in hell said to me "you just gotta believe". Why?

It makes no difference whether you believe in God or not to go on to the next age where all created beings will get new bodies to experience life with.

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word: It makes no difference whether you believe in God or not to go on to the next age where all created beings will get new bodies to experience life with.

no, it does not matter whether one believes in the Almighty but that does not change the fact the Spirit will be Judged before Admission to the Everlasting is granted ....

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[sealybobo]

Yes. I dont shoot people because they drew a picture of god.

Not shooting people over God is the ideal behavior, the best behavior that may be attained?

Why dont you get to the point. Tell me what ideal you have I dont that you think matters.

 

[sealybobo]

I see a LOT more threads on this board about how believers should NOT believe in God (are stupid, insane, ignorant, pick your juvenile insult) than I do about how non-believers are going to hell. Anyone see the contrary?

Because the theists on here know how stupid it is to say someones going to hell for not believing their religion. I guess we've made huge progress in just a few years.

 

[sealybobo]

When I go to work I'm going to do my best.

My parents are old and sick. Ive been there fri-sunday and I'm going after work to check on them tonight.

My brother the christian doesnt call my parents as often as he should because he gets sad. Suck it up pussy! They need you! Doesnt the bible teach this?

And he didn't come to see gramma in the hospital every night even though he lived closer because it made him sad.

No god needed for me to be more ideal than you.

We don't measure the ideal by one-upping or by looking down on siblings or even members here on this board. What about your behavior and attitude towards those here? I am curious as to whether you regard it as ideal?

No its not ideal behavior I guess. But here is a place I come to argue that belief in god is crazy. Is it mean to tell you you're crazy if its true?

If this belief is holding us back I feel obligated to fight it.

If only religion made people ideal.

 

[Meriweather]

Why dont you get to the point. Tell me what ideal you have I dont that you think matters.

I am not speaking of a particular ideal, but of the ideal choice in all aspects of life. Should we hold ourselves and one another to the greatest ideal? Or, should everyone settle for whatever they want and call it good?

 

[Meriweather]

Because the theists on here know how stupid it is to say someones going to hell for not believing their religion. I guess we've made huge progress in just a few years.

A few years? I've lived my entire life knowing people are not going to hell for not choosing the "correct" religion--and I am not young.

 

[Meriweather]

No its not ideal behavior I guess. But here is a place I come to argue that belief in god is crazy. Is it mean to tell you you're crazy if its true?

If this belief is holding us back I feel obligated to fight it.

If only religion made people ideal.

Belief in God is not crazy. However some beliefs surrounding belief in God might be considered so. They way some people interpret Revelation is enough to drive anyone nuts. But this is not so much craziness as it is ignorance.