So....is THIS where we're really headed?

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

Really started in '09, has only gotten worse since. What if armed mini insurrections like this become a norm? Pandemic?

I know we're a nation founded on violent, bloody revolution, but that's supposed to be the LAST LAST resort......and if this current administration doesn't change it's dirty, underhanded, authoritarian ways to ramming its agenda thru.....it'll only worsen this trend and encourage further attacks on its party.......


Tucson rampage casts light on toxic political tone

WASHINGTON – Politicians of all stripes are bound to be haunted by Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' warning, 10 months before she was shot, to cool the rhetoric.

It's been a year or more of raw politics, with anger spilling over on both sides and gun-related metaphors coming loosely from the lips of some candidates and activists. Giffords, a figurative target of the right, on Saturday became the actual target of a gunman who shot her through the head and killed at least five others. She was critically wounded.

The gunman's motive is not known.

But in Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik suggested "all this vitriol" in recent political discourse might be connected to Saturday's shootings. "This may be free speech," he told reporters, "but it's not without consequences."

Whatever the motive, the toxic tone of the national debate is certain to draw greater scrutiny.

Tucson rampage casts light on toxic political tone - Yahoo! News

 

[Avatar4321]

I suppose that depends on the choices we make.

If we start eliminating the hate, the lies, the corruption from our own lives and then help others do the same, then no.

If we keep feeding it, then yes. It's inevitable. Human nature doesnt change unless we let God change us. If we keep feeding our souls hate, lies, and corruption, then it will lead to more violence and a break down of our families. If our families break down, the nation wont be far behind.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

I suppose that depends on the choices we make.

If we start eliminating the hate, the lies, the corruption from our own lives and then help others do the same, then no.

If we keep feeding it, then yes. It's inevitable. Human nature doesnt change unless we let God change us. If we keep feeding our souls hate, lies, and corruption, then it will lead to more violence and a break down of our families. If our families break down, the nation wont be far behind.

But you lean towards yes.

 

[drsmith1072]

I suppose that depends on the choices we make.

If we start eliminating the hate, the lies, the corruption from our own lives and then help others do the same, then no.

If we keep feeding it, then yes. It's inevitable. Human nature doesnt change unless we let God change us. If we keep feeding our souls hate, lies, and corruption, then it will lead to more violence and a break down of our families. If our families break down, the nation wont be far behind.

But you lean towards yes.

With threads like these

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...akes-good-on-another-promise.html#post3178702

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/149598-obama-breaks-another-promise.html#post3178647

that are chock full of hate lies and corruption, YOU are part of the problem.

You spam the board with your cut and paste talking points and then make and agree with BS claims that are based on biased opinions of your fellow righties.

Like this completely baseless and bs opinion based gem provided by the T that you applauded

Hopefully the two shall meet in the middle and come to the same conclusion? Congress has NO business in this and it will be deemed an Individual responsibility as it always has been and should be?

You're both right. Hell it's already been found UNconstitutional, parts anyway, some of the biggest parts.

I believe both the House AND the SC may have to join forces to get this repealed/abolished tho.

This is Obama's "single greatest legislative achievement" He will NOT give it up, let it go, he'll use every sneaky tactic he can, and instruct his Jackass minions in the Senate to do the same.

Epic battle coming........

And he will TRY to do it using Executive Privilidge...by fiat against the will of the people...Just as he is with Cap And Tax since that legislation didn't bow to his will...


Folks? We have a mini-Chavez in the Exec branch...and he needs to be shown that we don't play the same game as Chavez.

Way to shine a big bright light on the problems that you and your fellow hacks are creating and promoting with your "hate, lies, and corruption."

 

[JScott]

Really started in '09, has only gotten worse since. What if armed mini insurrections like this become a norm? Pandemic?

I know we're a nation founded on violent, bloody revolution, but that's supposed to be the LAST LAST resort......and if this current administration doesn't change it's dirty, underhanded, authoritarian ways to ramming its agenda thru.....it'll only worsen this trend and encourage further attacks on its party.......


Tucson rampage casts light on toxic political tone

WASHINGTON – Politicians of all stripes are bound to be haunted by Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' warning, 10 months before she was shot, to cool the rhetoric.

It's been a year or more of raw politics, with anger spilling over on both sides and gun-related metaphors coming loosely from the lips of some candidates and activists. Giffords, a figurative target of the right, on Saturday became the actual target of a gunman who shot her through the head and killed at least five others. She was critically wounded.

The gunman's motive is not known.

But in Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik suggested "all this vitriol" in recent political discourse might be connected to Saturday's shootings. "This may be free speech," he told reporters, "but it's not without consequences."

Whatever the motive, the toxic tone of the national debate is certain to draw greater scrutiny.

Tucson rampage casts light on toxic political tone - Yahoo! News

When I saw "Really started in '09, has only gotten worse since" I had to laugh. You really think it goes all the way back to 09? It goes back further than that, chief.

 

[Queen]

No, there will not be another civil war. The US government will put a stop, a hard and fast ending to anyone they find committing acts of violence and murder and hate.

The right will just keep on spewing their gun violence rhetoric. Obviously the message is to deny words matter. It isn't looking like ANY Republicans are going to tell the Palin, Bachmann or Angle, to stop the dangerous propaganda.

Come Eric Cantor, you can be the one to do it.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) suggested that some rhetoric against the president, suggesting that he's a socialist or has pioneered the most left-wing presidency ever, has been over-the-top at times.

"I'll give you this: It's hyperbolic," Cantor said

 

[jgarden]

Unfortunately, shooting politicians is part of a long American tradition that interprets the 2nd Amendment as an opportunity for any "wingnut" to exercise his/her "constitutional rights!"

The US shares 5,525 miles of border (including 1,538 miles with Alaska) with Canada, a country with stricter gun rules - is it just a matter of coincidence that their "wingnuts" have no history of shooting their politicians?

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

I suppose that depends on the choices we make.

If we start eliminating the hate, the lies, the corruption from our own lives and then help others do the same, then no.

If we keep feeding it, then yes. It's inevitable. Human nature doesnt change unless we let God change us. If we keep feeding our souls hate, lies, and corruption, then it will lead to more violence and a break down of our families. If our families break down, the nation wont be far behind.

But you lean towards yes.

With threads like these

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...akes-good-on-another-promise.html#post3178702

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/149598-obama-breaks-another-promise.html#post3178647

that are chock full of hate lies and corruption, YOU are part of the problem.

You spam the board with your cut and paste talking points and then make and agree with BS claims that are based on biased opinions of your fellow righties.

Like this completely baseless and bs opinion based gem provided by the T that you applauded

You're both right. Hell it's already been found UNconstitutional, parts anyway, some of the biggest parts.

I believe both the House AND the SC may have to join forces to get this repealed/abolished tho.

This is Obama's "single greatest legislative achievement" He will NOT give it up, let it go, he'll use every sneaky tactic he can, and instruct his Jackass minions in the Senate to do the same.

Epic battle coming........

And he will TRY to do it using Executive Privilidge...by fiat against the will of the people...Just as he is with Cap And Tax since that legislation didn't bow to his will...


Folks? We have a mini-Chavez in the Exec branch...and he needs to be shown that we don't play the same game as Chavez.

Way to shine a big bright light on the problems that you and your fellow hacks are creating and promoting with your "hate, lies, and corruption."

Dunno how I missed your lil amsuing sheep ass before.

Not my fault TRUTH hurts you so much, another tired Obamabot are we?

You'd do well to back down now, lest I utterly destroy you, just like I destroyed the other lil wacko lefties like TM, rdean, "right"winger, NYcarineer, Common Sense, oh the list goes on.

Nice company you're making there.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

No, there will not be another civil war. The US government will put a stop, a hard and fast ending to anyone they find committing acts of violence and murder and hate.

The right will just keep on spewing their gun violence rhetoric. Obviously the message is to deny words matter. It isn't looking like ANY Republicans are going to tell the Palin, Bachmann or Angle, to stop the dangerous propaganda.

Come Eric Cantor, you can be the one to do it.

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) suggested that some rhetoric against the president, suggesting that he's a socialist or has pioneered the most left-wing presidency ever, has been over-the-top at times.

"I'll give you this: It's hyperbolic," Cantor said

LOL wow you AND this drsmith weirdo. How'd I'd miss yall?

Aey looks like we got 2 new Obamabots who parrot insane DNC talking points, attempt to absolve the left of this mess WHICH IS MOSTLY THEIR/YOUR FAULT, and enjoy dual circle jerks.

Oh this is gonna be good..............

 

[drsmith1072]

But you lean towards yes.

With threads like these

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...akes-good-on-another-promise.html#post3178702

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/149598-obama-breaks-another-promise.html#post3178647

that are chock full of hate lies and corruption, YOU are part of the problem.

You spam the board with your cut and paste talking points and then make and agree with BS claims that are based on biased opinions of your fellow righties.

Like this completely baseless and bs opinion based gem provided by the T that you applauded

And he will TRY to do it using Executive Privilidge...by fiat against the will of the people...Just as he is with Cap And Tax since that legislation didn't bow to his will...


Folks? We have a mini-Chavez in the Exec branch...and he needs to be shown that we don't play the same game as Chavez.

Way to shine a big bright light on the problems that you and your fellow hacks are creating and promoting with your "hate, lies, and corruption."

Dunno how I missed your lil amsuing sheep ass before.

Not my fault TRUTH hurts you so much, another tired Obamabot are we?

You'd do well to back down now, lest I utterly destroy you, just like I destroyed the other lil wacko lefties like TM, rdean, "right"winger, NYcarineer, Common Sense, oh the list goes on.

Nice company you're making there.

LOL you come on with cut and paste nonsense in a lame attempt to support your regurgitation of baseless rightwing talking points and you are me a sheep?? LOL now that is hilarious.

What truth are you pretending hurts me?? I have to ask because you nor T provided anything but baseless opinions. Please explain before you cut and run like all of the rest of the delusional rightwing hacks.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

With threads like these

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...akes-good-on-another-promise.html#post3178702

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/149598-obama-breaks-another-promise.html#post3178647

that are chock full of hate lies and corruption, YOU are part of the problem.

You spam the board with your cut and paste talking points and then make and agree with BS claims that are based on biased opinions of your fellow righties.

Like this completely baseless and bs opinion based gem provided by the T that you applauded




Way to shine a big bright light on the problems that you and your fellow hacks are creating and promoting with your "hate, lies, and corruption."

Dunno how I missed your lil amsuing sheep ass before.

Not my fault TRUTH hurts you so much, another tired Obamabot are we?

You'd do well to back down now, lest I utterly destroy you, just like I destroyed the other lil wacko lefties like TM, rdean, "right"winger, NYcarineer, Common Sense, oh the list goes on.

Nice company you're making there.

LOL you come on with cut and paste nonsense in a lame attempt to support your regurgitation of baseless rightwing talking points and you are me a sheep?? LOL now that is hilarious.

What truth are you pretending hurts me?? I have to ask because you nor T provided anything but baseless opinions. Please explain before you cut and run like all of the rest of the delusional rightwing hacks.

I made a thread, tryna have a decent debate bout where this nation is headed via the white hot political atmosphere, AND YOU COME IN AND START ATTACKING ME, WE WERE DOING FINE TILL YOU SHOWED UP.

You came in, parroted some lefty retardation, lying, flaming, etc. And you expect me or any other righty here to take you seriously?

LOL do yourself a favor sheep, fall back, take your IQ voided self to the Conspiracy forum or something, seeing as how you post, you'll be right @ home there with the other wacko lefty trolls I mentioned.

 

[drsmith1072]

Dunno how I missed your lil amsuing sheep ass before.

Not my fault TRUTH hurts you so much, another tired Obamabot are we?

You'd do well to back down now, lest I utterly destroy you, just like I destroyed the other lil wacko lefties like TM, rdean, "right"winger, NYcarineer, Common Sense, oh the list goes on.

Nice company you're making there.

LOL you come on with cut and paste nonsense in a lame attempt to support your regurgitation of baseless rightwing talking points and you are me a sheep?? LOL now that is hilarious.

What truth are you pretending hurts me?? I have to ask because you nor T provided anything but baseless opinions. Please explain before you cut and run like all of the rest of the delusional rightwing hacks.

I made a thread, tryna have a decent debate bout where this nation is headed via the white hot political atmosphere, AND YOU COME IN AND START ATTACKING ME, WE WERE DOING FINE TILL YOU SHOWED UP.

You came in, parroted some lefty retardation, lying, flaming, etc. And you expect me or any other righty here to take you seriously?

LOL do yourself a favor sheep, fall back, take your IQ voided self to the Conspiracy forum or something, seeing as how you post, you'll be right @ home there with the other wacko lefty trolls I mentioned.

SO in other words you were asked to show what truth that you have meantioned which hurts me and all you can do is call me names and make up even more shite to CYA as you avoid the FACT that I showed proof of right wing "hate, lies, and corruption." when I showed what T posted in one of your other cut and paste threads that YOU APLAUDED.
Funny how you try to apply "the truth hurts" to me even as you accuse me of attacking you when all i did was point out the FACT that YOU are part of the problem that your thread was meant to draw attention to. LOL

BTW, how is my posting of what T said considered parroting anything lefty?? I posted his comments in full as an example of the BS the right makes up and blindly agrees with and instead addressing that you go to the fall back of calling other posters names as you run away from a debate that you already lost but don't have the integrity to admit that you lost.

Is this the point where you call me more names, talk more trash about how you are going to "utterly destroy" me and then cut and run?? LOL

 

[Father Time]

No. The fight between the left and the right is not a regional conflict so I don't see how a civil war would work

"all lefties go to west, all righties go to the east, and all the centrists can either go to Canada or stay and watch."

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

No. The fight between the left and the right is not a regional conflict so I don't see how a civil war would work

"all lefties go to west, all righties go to the east, and all the centrists can either go to Canada or stay and watch."

Not really man. That's waaay to general.

We have:
The south, most of the mid west, most of the Rocky Mountains, and big clusters in PA and NY.

The lefties have:
The west coast, small parts of the Rockies, and most of New England.

I dunno if a 2nd Civil War is gonna break out or not, but I sure as fuck know WE'LL WIN if it does........

 

[drsmith1072]

No. The fight between the left and the right is not a regional conflict so I don't see how a civil war would work

"all lefties go to west, all righties go to the east, and all the centrists can either go to Canada or stay and watch."

Not really man. That's waaay to general.

We have:
The south, most of the mid west, most of the Rocky Mountains, and big clusters in PA and NY.

The lefties have:
The west coast, small parts of the Rockies, and most of New England.

I dunno if a 2nd Civil War is gonna break out or not, but I sure as fuck know WE'LL WIN if it does........

Of course you will <pats (R)IGHTeous 1 on the head and gives him a cookie while making sure that his padded helmet is on tight enough to prevent him from hurting himself even more> LOL

 

[editec]

Wishful think on the part of people who don't really understand what a tragedy such an event would be, I think.

 

[Old Rocks]

Really started in '09, has only gotten worse since. What if armed mini insurrections like this become a norm? Pandemic?

I know we're a nation founded on violent, bloody revolution, but that's supposed to be the LAST LAST resort......and if this current administration doesn't change it's dirty, underhanded, authoritarian ways to ramming its agenda thru.....it'll only worsen this trend and encourage further attacks on its party.......


Tucson rampage casts light on toxic political tone

WASHINGTON – Politicians of all stripes are bound to be haunted by Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' warning, 10 months before she was shot, to cool the rhetoric.

It's been a year or more of raw politics, with anger spilling over on both sides and gun-related metaphors coming loosely from the lips of some candidates and activists. Giffords, a figurative target of the right, on Saturday became the actual target of a gunman who shot her through the head and killed at least five others. She was critically wounded.

The gunman's motive is not known.

But in Pima County, Ariz., Sheriff Clarence Dupnik suggested "all this vitriol" in recent political discourse might be connected to Saturday's shootings. "This may be free speech," he told reporters, "but it's not without consequences."

Whatever the motive, the toxic tone of the national debate is certain to draw greater scrutiny.

Tucson rampage casts light on toxic political tone - Yahoo! News

Nice going. Already providing an excuse for the murderous ass that killed and wounded so many in what is a traditional political event in our nation. There is no excuse for people like you.

 

[bodecea]

But you lean towards yes.

With threads like these

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...akes-good-on-another-promise.html#post3178702

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/149598-obama-breaks-another-promise.html#post3178647

that are chock full of hate lies and corruption, YOU are part of the problem.

You spam the board with your cut and paste talking points and then make and agree with BS claims that are based on biased opinions of your fellow righties.

Like this completely baseless and bs opinion based gem provided by the T that you applauded

And he will TRY to do it using Executive Privilidge...by fiat against the will of the people...Just as he is with Cap And Tax since that legislation didn't bow to his will...


Folks? We have a mini-Chavez in the Exec branch...and he needs to be shown that we don't play the same game as Chavez.

Way to shine a big bright light on the problems that you and your fellow hacks are creating and promoting with your "hate, lies, and corruption."

Dunno how I missed your lil amsuing sheep ass before.

Not my fault TRUTH hurts you so much, another tired Obamabot are we?

You'd do well to back down now, lest I utterly destroy you, just like I destroyed the other lil wacko lefties like TM, rdean, "right"winger, NYcarineer, Common Sense, oh the list goes on.

Nice company you're making there.

You realize, you just proved his point.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, in spite of the fruitcakes gory fantasies, there will be no second American Civil War. They will remain a far out wing of American politics, kind of like the old boozing uncle. Acknowledged, but not allowed to participate in any decisions of any importance.

 

[bodecea]

I wish those states who wish to leave, such as Texas, are just allowed to leave with no struggle. Let them go on their own.....just don't let the door hit them on their way out.