Cecilie1200
Diamond Member
Sure they are.
You brought up slums. Are you aware of a lot of white slums (Mississippi not withstanding)? Sure there are some whites living in slums but I doubt you were referring to them...
Martha Stewart wasn't loaded? Presumably rich athletes like Rae Carruth, Pete Rose, Denny MacLain, Mike Tyson, Steve Howe, and 2 players off of every NFL team (on average) aren't loaded? They went to jail.
Michael Vick had something like $8 million in the bank when he went to jail.
Floyd Maywhether has something like $80M in the bank.
The outlier you picked was OJ which had other factors such as an 11 month trial with a sequestered jury, a joke of a prosecution team, which didn't bring up the chase or the curious things OJ had with him during the chase (a loaded gun, fake beard and mustache, $8 large in cash, etc...),and yes OJ was rich at the time. It certainly doesn't hurt and there is some validity to what you say. But there are plenty of rich folks in jail.
I'm not sure why you picked up on his skin color but whatever...
I've showed you that the Stop&Frisk laws in NYC were far more often applied to blacks than whites
I've showed you facts that blacks are sentenced to Life without Parole more often than whites.
I've showed you that kids that grow up fatherless--as our justice system ensures some blacks are-- are far more pre-disposed to likely live in the "slums" as you pointed out are dangerous.
You are contesting that if you search more blacks than whites--6 times as many, it will have no bearing on the number of blacks being arrested compared to whites
You are contesting that "it's bullshit" that blacks are sentenced to LIPWP more often than whites even though it has been shown to you.
As for fatherless youths and those without father figures ending up in trouble...it's silly to argue otherwise but there you are...doing just that.
I could should you more stats:
I'm sure the above is a coincidence....
Yes, that is because the percentage of blacks living in poverty is more than that of whites, or any other ethnicity. Because of this, they are more apt to be committing crimes. As far as the justice system goes though, there is no conspiracy! There are black judges, black defense lawyers, black prosecutors, black policemen (who may even be the MAJORITY in some of these more poor neighborhoods). Your stats do not prove causation. It's much more complicated than "racism." That is why the black on black crime rates in such neighborhoods, along with gang criminal activity, is pretty prevalent. Even other black people who are honest and live in such neighborhoods are afraid to step up.
Let me ask you another question...do you believe that Blacks are genetically pre-disposed to criminal behavior, that they want to live in poverty, making 10-15 thousand a year off of government hand-outs?
ChrisL Well?
Do I believe they are genetically predisposed? No. I believe they are socially conditioned in some instances.
Would you agree that if our society removed someone's father out of their lives for, oh lets just say 10 years during their growing up (ages 8-18 for example), that child is at a disadvantage compared to those children whose father is able to be there?
I'm going to say that any child whose male progenitor commits acts likely to get him sent to prison for 10 years is at a disadvantage whether the bastard gets caught or not