Should our Constitution's 2nd Amendment be amended ... ?

[Boss]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

 

[Mudda]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Dipshit.

ROFLMNAO!

The evidence of the existence of the Creator, rests in the existence of the Creation.

It's everywhere, and every individual that professes otherwise, exists exclusively within and as part and parcel of the Creation, yet their subjective needs are such, that they readily deny their own existence as a means to deny the existence of the Creator.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Ah... so you're working on the premise that your senses are capable of sensing all that exist in the universe?

Interesting... . Will you snap a photo of the next quark that passes through you?

If that's not possible, please snap a recording of what gravity sound like... .

Can't do that, then offer me an explanation for the consequences, wherein an individual chooses to satisfy their every immediate whim, only to find that their life is unsatisfying?

You can't see, taste, hear or touch ANY of those realities... yet each are an immutable fact of nature.

So tell me now about why it is that these invisible realities exist, and you're
here demanding that if something is beyond the scope of human senses, that it cannot exist?

I'm saying that you have NO PROOF that it exists.

You have no proof that YOU exist, moron.

So you're of the position that these posts are being posted by a non-existent being? Bravo! You're an idiot!

No, I simply said that you cannot "PROVE" you exist. This has nothing to do with what I believe or whether you actually exist or not.

You're an idiot. Please move along.

FABULOUS Concession... .

Noted and accepted.

 

[Boss]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

Radical Islamic Fundamentalism is not "god fearing people" dimwit.

In fact, it IS more in line with YOU and YOUR philosophy. Just replace "Allah" with "Social Justice" and you've got Today's Activist Liberal.

They are a dangerous religious fanatical manifestation which humanity will have to repel in order to survive. Both Liberals and Islamists.

 

[Mudda]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

Radical Islamic Fundamentalism is not "god fearing people" dimwit.

In fact, it IS more in line with YOU and YOUR philosophy. Just replace "Allah" with "Social Justice" and you've got Today's Activist Liberal.

They are a dangerous religious fanatical manifestation which humanity will have to repel in order to survive. Both Liberals and Islamists.

Ok, so you don't know what you're talking about. Got it.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

ROFLMNAO!

Isis is the creation of the anti-theist Ideological Left... the most lethal human organism in the history of humanity.

Preferring to call itself 'secular', the Ideological Left murdered in excess of 150 million innocent people, predominately Christians, all thought tens of Millions were Jews... in the name of Socialism... over a 30 year period of relative peace, in the middle of the 20th century.

The closest second to that lethality of the Ideological Left proper... is Islam, which murdered 65 million innocent people, predominately Christian, with millions being Jewish, with millions more being Buddhist, Sikhs and members of lessor known religions.

It's worth noting that Islam and The Ideological Left (which rests entirely in Relativism) each reject the natural laws regarding cause and effect... and each, consequently... inevitably, lead only to chaos, calamity and catastrophe... OKA: the purpose of evil.

Therefore Islam and the Ideological Left are merely two means that Evil uses as a means to advance itself politically.

 

[Mudda]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

ROFLMNAO!

Isis is the creation of the anti-theist Ideological Left... the most lethal human organism in the history of humanity.

Preferring to call itself 'secular', the Ideological Left murdered in excess of 150 million innocent people, predominately Christians, all thought tens of Millions were Jews... in the name of Socialism... over a 30 year period of relative peace, in the middle of the 20th century.

The closest second to that lethality of the Ideological Left proper... is Islam, which murdered 65 million innocent people, predominately Christian, with millions being Jewish, with millions more being Buddhist, Sikhs and members of lessor known religions.

It's worth noting that Islam and The Ideological Left (which rests entirely in Relativism) each reject the natural laws regarding cause and effect... and each, consequently... inevitably, lead only to chaos, calamity and catastrophe... OKA: the purpose of evil.

Therefore Islam and the Ideological Left are merely two means that Evil uses as a means to advance itself politically.

You're living in the past, this thread is in the "current events" section. Sorry, you lose.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

Radical Islamic Fundamentalism is not "god fearing people" dimwit.

In fact, it IS more in line with YOU and YOUR philosophy. Just replace "Allah" with "Social Justice" and you've got Today's Activist Liberal.

They are a dangerous religious fanatical manifestation which humanity will have to repel in order to survive. Both Liberals and Islamists.

Ok, so you don't know what you're talking about. Got it.

LOL! ANOTHER CONCESSION!

Your most recent concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Mudda]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

Radical Islamic Fundamentalism is not "god fearing people" dimwit.

In fact, it IS more in line with YOU and YOUR philosophy. Just replace "Allah" with "Social Justice" and you've got Today's Activist Liberal.

They are a dangerous religious fanatical manifestation which humanity will have to repel in order to survive. Both Liberals and Islamists.

Ok, so you don't know what you're talking about. Got it.

LOL! ANOTHER CONCESSION!

Your most recent concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Cool, you win any time you have nothing intelligent to say. Must be often.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

ROFLMNAO!

Isis is the creation of the anti-theist Ideological Left... the most lethal human organism in the history of humanity.

Preferring to call itself 'secular', the Ideological Left murdered in excess of 150 million innocent people, predominately Christians, all thought tens of Millions were Jews... in the name of Socialism... over a 30 year period of relative peace, in the middle of the 20th century.

The closest second to that lethality of the Ideological Left proper... is Islam, which murdered 65 million innocent people, predominately Christian, with millions being Jewish, with millions more being Buddhist, Sikhs and members of lessor known religions.

It's worth noting that Islam and The Ideological Left (which rests entirely in Relativism) each reject the natural laws regarding cause and effect... and each, consequently... inevitably, lead only to chaos, calamity and catastrophe... OKA: the purpose of evil.

Therefore Islam and the Ideological Left are merely two means that Evil uses as a means to advance itself politically.

You're living in the past, this thread is in the "current events" section. Sorry, you lose.

ROFL! ANOTHER ONE?

Sis... you absolutely SUCK AT THIS!

Have you considered the "FIRE HOT" section... I mention it because it discusses those thing which fall well within your demonstrated intellectual means.

Where you claim that the most current issues are relegated to the past, you demonstrate a profound ignorance, which undermines any sense of credibility.

FTR: Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Cool, you win any time you have nothing intelligent to say. Must be often.

LOL! I win anytime there is a leftist speaking, anywhere I happen to be present.

 

[Mudda]

For the rest of us, rights are based upon the rational principle of applying valid logic to the verifiable facts of reality.

Platitude-filled nonsense.

The verifiable fact of reality is, we are animals who would behave like all other animals in the animal kingdom if not for our spirituality and understanding of something greater than self. The rational principles of valid logic would suggest that it's this heightened awareness of human grace which is the basis for all humanity including our morals and ethics as human beings.

Now... there are "those of you" who have decided to declare a personal war on religion and religious believers, for whatever superficial reason... and you are not going to listen to anything I have to say on the matter because your mind is closed. I can't overcome that, and I won't really try.

It's the god fearing people who act like animals: ISIS, the US army (which is made up of mainly god believers, especially at the top where the decisions are made), the Iranians, Taliban...

ROFLMNAO!

Isis is the creation of the anti-theist Ideological Left... the most lethal human organism in the history of humanity.

Preferring to call itself 'secular', the Ideological Left murdered in excess of 150 million innocent people, predominately Christians, all thought tens of Millions were Jews... in the name of Socialism... over a 30 year period of relative peace, in the middle of the 20th century.

The closest second to that lethality of the Ideological Left proper... is Islam, which murdered 65 million innocent people, predominately Christian, with millions being Jewish, with millions more being Buddhist, Sikhs and members of lessor known religions.

It's worth noting that Islam and The Ideological Left (which rests entirely in Relativism) each reject the natural laws regarding cause and effect... and each, consequently... inevitably, lead only to chaos, calamity and catastrophe... OKA: the purpose of evil.

Therefore Islam and the Ideological Left are merely two means that Evil uses as a means to advance itself politically.

You're living in the past, this thread is in the "current events" section. Sorry, you lose.

ROFL! ANOTHER ONE?

Sis... you absolutely SUCK AT THIS!

Have you considered the "FIRE HOT" section... I mention it because it discusses those thing which fall well within your demonstrated intellectual means.

Where you claim that the most current issues are relegated to the past, you demonstrate a profound ignorance, which undermines any sense of credibility.

FTR: Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Ya, because I'm looking for credibility from you.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

"Science disproves God."

Science began through the same human quest for a greater understanding of the universe, that produced religion.

The same people that you; the idiots of the Anti-theist cult, bray about incessantly in your endless attempt to discredit religion, did the same thing to religion, that YOU are HERE doing to science.

Wherein they set Religion up as a political authority, as you are trying to establish "SCIENCE!" up as a political power, vis a vis Eugenics and Global Cooling/Warming/Change.

IT BEGINS AND ENDS WITH THE SUBJECTIVISM COMMON TO RELATIVISM; OKA: THE SPECIES OF REASONING OF THE INTELLECTUALLY LESS FORTUNATE.​

Possibility exists until you can rule out all possibility. If you want to prove there is no God, that's what you have to do.

"If you want to prove there is no God, that's what you have to do."[/QUOTE]

No problem... Evidence of the existence of the Creator, is found in the existence of Creation.

See how easy that is?

Otherwise, you are expressing an opinion based on faith. A faith-based opinion is fine, but we're going to be honest about what it is.

Faith is not uncertainty.

Thank you for making my his point... I guess.
​

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Ya, because I'm looking for credibility from you.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Since this God of yours is entirely superstition, it necessarily follows that there is no basis for any human right.

Without God, there isn't.

We observe this in nature every day. Animals in the wild do not have respect for rights among each other. Their "morality" is based around survival of the fittest. And such would be the case in humans if not for spiritual enlightenment and our blessing of grace as humanity.

You say God is superstition but again, this is an opinion you can't prove. Now... we can't have an intellectual conversation if you are allowed to establish your opinions as facts but I'm not allowed to do the same. I can't prove God and you can't prove NO God. So any claims of God being superstition are your opinions and not facts. It is not any different than me proclaiming you are wrong because the Bible says you are.

So you're down to quoting your opposition's point? In hopes of finding some sense of viability?

Well... If that's the best you can do, then it's all one can expect of you.

 

[LOki]

Since this God of yours is entirely superstition, it necessarily follows that there is no basis for any human right.

Without God, there isn't.

Since this God of yours is entirely superstition, it necessarily follows that there is no basis for any human right.

We observe this in nature every day. Animals in the wild do not have respect for rights among each other. Their "morality" is based around survival of the fittest.

Animals don't have rights...certainly not human rights.

And such would be the case in humans if not for spiritual enlightenment and our blessing of grace as humanity.

Nonsense. We're not "animals" in the sense you're using the term above.

You say God is superstition but again, this is an opinion you can't prove.

But I certainly can. Your belief in your God has no basis in valid logic applied to verifiable facts of reality. Hence, it is superstition. What you believe in--this God of yours--is superstition.

Now... we can't have an intellectual conversation if you are allowed to establish your opinions as facts but I'm not allowed to do the same.

Agreed. Your superstition, and how it informs you about your God, is worse than opinion. So, leave your superstition out it, and we'll be fine.

I can't prove God ...

Yet you must if you are to assert His role in the topic.

...and you can't prove NO God.

It's a good thing then that I'm not saying there is NO God. I'm just not accepting there is one without valid logic applied to the verifiable facts of reality. I have no reason to accept the existence of your God, and you are being intellectually dishonest in demanding that I do to advance your point.

So any claims of God being superstition are your opinions and not facts.

Your belief in your God has no basis in valid logic applied to verifiable facts of reality. Hence, it is superstition. What you believe in--this God of yours--is superstition. Fact. Not opinion.

It is not any different than me proclaiming you are wrong because the Bible says you are.

It is entirely different, for OBVIOUS reasons.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Since this God of yours is entirely superstition ....

Reader, understand that the existence of the Creator has been established through the indisputable evidence of the Creation. Therefore the continuance of a long ago discredited projection, is a PROFOUND: FAILURE of reasoning and an overt concession to the standing point.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

...It's a good thing then that I'm not saying there is NO God. ...

Which is nonsense, given that THAT is precisely what your entire argument rests upon.

That you can't prove that you are the supreme authority of the universe, is merely evidence that you are not the supreme authority of the universe... your problem is that you need to BE such to make the claims you're making, absent that means, your claim(s) FAIL!

 

[Boss]

Since this God of yours is entirely superstition, it necessarily follows that there is no basis for any human right.

Without God, there isn't.

Since this God of yours is entirely superstition, it necessarily follows that there is no basis for any human right.

We observe this in nature every day. Animals in the wild do not have respect for rights among each other. Their "morality" is based around survival of the fittest.

Animals don't have rights...certainly not human rights.

Oh, I know they don't, that's my point. If there were nothing but forces of nature, humans would behave just like all other animals. The very concept of "human rights" contradicts the laws of nature, survival of the fittest. It is through our consciousness of something greater than self that we can rationalize such concepts.

And such would be the case in humans if not for spiritual enlightenment and our blessing of grace as humanity.

Nonsense. We're not "animals" in the sense you're using the term above.

Yes, we are animals. The only sense we are not "animals" is through our grace as humans which comes through our enlightened spiritual awareness and belief in something greater than self.

You say God is superstition but again, this is an opinion you can't prove.

But I certainly can. Your belief in your God has no basis in valid logic applied to verifiable facts of reality. Hence, it is superstition. What you believe in--this God of yours--is superstition.

You don't know anything about my beliefs. And no, your opinions are never facts.

Now... we can't have an intellectual conversation if you are allowed to establish your opinions as facts but I'm not allowed to do the same.

Agreed. Your superstition, and how it informs you about your God, is worse than opinion. So, leave your superstition out it, and we'll be fine.

No, you stop calling my God "superstition" and we'll be fine.

It's a good thing then that I'm not saying there is NO God. I'm just not accepting there is one without valid logic applied to the verifiable facts of reality.

Uhm... no, you claimed God is superstition. You applied no logic, no fact or no reality.

I have no reason to accept the existence of your God, and you are being intellectually dishonest in demanding that I do to advance your point.

I didn't say you have to accept the existence of my God. Whether my point is valid or indeed, whether a God exists... has absolutely nothing to do with your personal acceptance.