Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

[Syriusly]

Scalia was wrong about that. Marriage providing a vital mother and father for children is the last legitimate objection to gay marriage. .

LOL- so even you acknowledge that all of the other crap is just crap.

No- that isn't legitimate either.

For all of the reasons you know and ignore.

Preventing a gay couple from marrying doesn't provide a mother and father to a singe child. Not one.

 

[Syriusly]

What does the race someone was born as have to do with the topic of this thread? Homosexuality is a behavior, not part of the DNA.

The topic of this thread this: should churches be forced to accommodate homosexual weddings? Just like yesterday, the day before, and the day before that, not one church has been forced to marry any couple aganist their wishes. As it should be.

We all know the premise behind this thread mdk.)

We all know that that your premise is always "how to harm gays"

Meanwhile- no church is being forced to marry gay couples- and won't be.

No more than the Catholic Church is forced to marry Jewish couples.

 

[Silhouette]

Scalia was wrong about that. Marriage providing a vital mother and father for children is the last legitimate objection to gay marriage. .

...Preventing a gay couple from marrying doesn't provide a mother and father to a singe child. Not one.

Bastardizing marriage to force states to drop incentivizing both a vital mother and father to both female and male children is the crime here. Your type of "marriage" legally binds children involved away from the hope of a mother or father...for life. That's a problem.

It was the cult of LGBT itself that insisted to the Court that "marriage benefits children". Now suddenly you want to insist it didn't/doesn't by claiming "marriage isn't about children". Either it is or it isn't. And if it is, it USED TO BE that marriage remedied for them the lack of either vital mother or father. Without that unique benefit weighed, argued or defended on behalf of children, *poof*, it disappeared with Obergefell.

Usually when age-old contracts are revised, all parties must have unique representation at the Table... State AGs can argue on behalf of their states that a vital bond of both mother and father, incentivized by the lure of marriage benefits is essential to the other parties to the marriage contract. I'll provide again the link to the 2010 Prince's Trust survey (the largest of its kind) for consideration when discussing this problem: PRINCE'S TRUST 2010 YOUTH INDEX SURVEY

And the quote from that page that leads you to the full article:

"Young people with no role models of the same gender in their lives score a total of 65 in the well-being index compared with a score of 74 for young people with these role models .... ....... young people’s happiness and confidence both seem to be affected by the addition of a role model of the same gender."

The quintessential role model in any boy or girl's life is a mother or father. States know that. And so, disincluding this information at the Obergefell Hearing is/was a problem.

 

[Silhouette]

Well Syriusly, is marriage about children getting benefits or isn't it?

 

[WillReadmore]

Well Syriusly, is marriage about children getting benefits or isn't it?

Marriage means greater stability.

A married couple can work as a team in facing problems that are medical, financial, etc. If they have kids, it's a little more likely that they can face those challenges more easily than can a single parent. Of course, we have a lot of sucessful single parent families and we have kids without parents who face a lot of instability and are especially in need of our support.

I am not sure what you are asking, though. We aren't going to have the state getting into the yentle business. So, I think we're stuck with letting individuals decide if they want to get married - right?

 

[Syriusly]

Scalia was wrong about that. Marriage providing a vital mother and father for children is the last legitimate objection to gay marriage. .

...Preventing a gay couple from marrying doesn't provide a mother and father to a singe child. Not one.

Bastardizing marriage to force states to drop incentivizing both a vital mother and father to both female and male children is the crime here. .

LOL

States 'incentivize' parenting by giving tax breaks to parents who have children. Whether they are married or not.

They don't 'incentivize' marriage with kids- states incentivize marriage regardless of children.

Meanwhile

..Preventing a gay couple from marrying doesn't provide a mother and father to a single child. Not one

but it does hurt children.

And you know that.

 

[Syriusly]

Well Syriusly, is marriage about children getting benefits or isn't it?

I like this quote from a Supreme Court Justice:

Marriage is a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred. It is an association that promotes a way of life, not causes; a harmony in living, not political faiths; a bilateral loyalty, not commercial or social projects. Yet it is an association for as noble a purpose as any involved in our prior decisions

My wife and I have been married for over 20 years- and our marriage is not about children getting benefits- was yours? Our marriage is a 'coming together for better or worse- and enduring and intimate.

My 80 year old uncle married last year- his marriage certainly is not about children getting benefits.

So the answer to that is- as you know it- no.

 

[Syriusly]

[Q I'll provide again the link to the 2010 Prince's Trust survey (the largest of its kind) for consideration when discussing this problem: PRINCE'S TRUST 2010 YOUTH INDEX SURVEY

And the quote from that page that leads you to the full article:

"Young people with no role models of the same gender in their lives score a total of 65 in the well-being index compared with a score of 74 for young people with these role models .... ....... young people’s happiness and confidence both seem to be affected by the addition of a role model of the same gender."

The quintessential role model in any boy or girl's life is a mother or father. States know that. And so, disincluding this information at the Obergefell Hearing is/was a problem.

The Prince's Survey doesn't even mention marriage- let alone gay marriage.
Nor does it say who those role models need to be- coaches, pastors, youth leaders.

The main cause for children being raised without a gender role model is when straight people divorce.

As you well know.

The Prince's Survey doesn't even mention marriage- let alone gay marriage.
Nor does it say who those role models need to be- coaches, pastors, youth leaders.

The main cause for children being raised without a gender role model is when straight people divorce.

As you well know

 

[HenryBHough]

Yup.

Churches ought to be forced to marry queers.

Starting the very same day mosques are forced to marry queers - and refrain from stoning them in lieu of confetti.

 

[Syriusly]

Yup.

Churches ought to be forced to marry queers.

Starting the very same day mosques are forced to marry queers - and refrain from stoning them in lieu of confetti.

Thanks for the right wing nut job viewpoint as always Henry.

 

[HenryBHough]

Thanks for the right wing nut job viewpoint as always Henry.

I'm saddened to see you no longer believe in equality.

 

[Syriusly]

Thanks for the right wing nut job viewpoint as always Henry.

I'm saddened to see you no longer believe in equality.

I am not surprised that you applaud murder.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Eunuch Horn

Sex is between a man and a woman, so there is no such thing as "homosexuality." No church has to cater to play-actors. Like unicorn, just because there is a word for it doesn't mean it actually exists.

 

[HenryBHough]

I am not surprised that you applaud murder.

There you go, projecting your love for parting out babies onto innocent bystanders.

There IS help available but, in a few more days it won't be free. You'll have to pay for it unless you have really excellent state Medicaid bennies.

 

[Syriusly]

I am not surprised that you applaud murder.

There you go, projecting your love for parting out babies onto innocent bystanders.

There IS help available but, in a few more days it won't be free. You'll have to pay for it unless you have really excellent state Medicaid bennies.

I am not interested in any babies you are trying to 'part out'

 

[Syriusly]

Eunuch Horn

Sex is between a man and a woman, so there is no such thing as "homosexuality."

Ignore the dictionary at your own peril.

 

[Silhouette]

Eunuch Horn

Sex is between a man and a woman, so there is no such thing as "homosexuality."

Ignore the dictionary at your own peril.

Hitler created a new dictionary for his New Reicht too. Doesn't mean sane folks are required to reference it when describing reality...

 

[mdk]

Hitler created a new dictionary for his New Reicht too. Doesn't mean sane folks are required to reference it when describing reality...

If homosexuality doesn't exist then what have you pissing and moaning about for the last decade? Seems odd you would dedicate so much time and effort to something that doesn't exist.

 

[skye]

No

Churches should not be forced to accommodate those weddings.

Those homosexuals weddings.

Why should they?

 

[mdk]

No

Churches should not be forced to accommodate those weddings.

Of course not. There are a few fools that have suggested otherwise, but they are fools. lol