we tolerated bush for eight years... no one said "we don't want to be americans anymore".
Fucking bullshit. How many people threatened to move to Canada?
that is not secession.....
Correct. It's emigration.
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we tolerated bush for eight years... no one said "we don't want to be americans anymore".
Fucking bullshit. How many people threatened to move to Canada?
that is not secession.....
we tolerated bush for eight years... no one said "we don't want to be americans anymore".
Fucking bullshit. How many people threatened to move to Canada?
that is not secession.....
unintended consequences of voting a marxist in.. perhaps..
You can go, but you don't take the Republic with you. You can say 'fuck you" all you want. You can't break the union, short of treason against the United States. That's why it would be war. To beat down the traitors to our country.
You're right it would be treason. That's exactly what the Founders did. They committed High Treason. They were men who did what was considered wrong in order to do what they knew was right.
Lets say some state secedes. Do we really have the stomach to fight to keep them in?
You can go, but you don't take the Republic with you. You can say 'fuck you" all you want. You can't break the union, short of treason against the United States. That's why it would be war. To beat down the traitors to our country.
You're right it would be treason. That's exactly what the Founders did. They committed High Treason. They were men who did what was considered wrong in order to do what they knew was right.
Lets say some state secedes. Do we really have the stomach to fight to keep them in?
Yes.
You can go, but you don't take the Republic with you. You can say 'fuck you" all you want. You can't break the union, short of treason against the United States. That's why it would be war. To beat down the traitors to our country.
You're right it would be treason. That's exactly what the Founders did. They committed High Treason. They were men who did what was considered wrong in order to do what they knew was right.
Lets say some state secedes. Do we really have the stomach to fight to keep them in?
a discussion about a very real political and historical issue in america
The future inhabitants of the Atlantic & Mississippi States will be our sons. We leave them in distinct but bordering establishments. We think we see their happiness in their union, & we wish it. Events may prove it otherwise; and if they see their interest in separation, why should we take side with our Atlantic rather than our Mississippi descendants? It is the elder and the younger son differing. God bless them both, & keep them in union, if it be for their good, but separate them, if it be better. Thomas Jefferson, letter to John C. Breckinridge, August 12, 1803
The indissoluble link of union between the people of the several states of this confederated nation is, after all, not in the right but in the heart. If the day should come (may Heaven avert it!) when the affections of the people of these States shall be alienated from each other; when the fraternal spirit shall give way to cold indifference, or collision of interests shall fester into hatred, the bands of political associations will not long hold together parties no longer attracted by the magnetism of conciliated interests or kindly sympathies; and far better will it be for the people of the disunited states to part in friendship from each other, than to be held together by constraint. John Quincy Adams
The Constitution required 9 states to ratify it for it to go into effect, when the first 9 states ratified the Constitution the others remained independent nations. They did not get assimilated by default. North Carolina and Rhode Island remained independent for well over a year I believe, before they finally ratified the Constitution.
we tolerated bush for eight years... no one said "we don't want to be americans anymore".
Fucking bullshit. How many people threatened to move to Canada?
it is the epitomy of UnAmerican. We are the United States of America. You believe in the right to seceed? You are unAmerican. Doesn't matter that you are upset with America, don't like where you think we're going, you're unAmerican. How can you get anymore so that wanting to seceed from America? You can protest, you can cry and whine, you can call your mama. You're free. You can do just about anything but if you feel the need to conspire to treason, well, that's death. By firing squad, preferably.
Considering all this lose talk of treason, I would love to see it addressed, right away. Montior these forums and round up the traitors. Maybe send a warning first. If the conspiracy continues with open calls for secession, start taking prisoners. You won't have to kill many.
That, in my humble opinion, is bullshit.
The right of the people to say 'fuck you' to the tyranny de jour is what started America in the first place.
I truly hope that open rebellion and infrastructure destruction is not going to be required to bitch-slap the greed out of the current funneling of the planets resources in to the hands of the few by the power behind Western Civilization, but the right of the people to use whatever means necessary to proclaim their freedom is only as illegal as the powerful can back up their list of rules.
-Joe
You can go, but you don't take the Republic with you. You can say 'fuck you" all you want. You can't break the union, short of treason against the United States. That's why it would be war. To beat down the traitors to our country.
How many people did threaten to leave the USA, exactly?
FWIW, I was tempted, but then I discovered that Canada wouldn't allow me to become a citizen because I'm too old.
The right of the people to say 'fuck you' to the tyranny de jour is what started America in the first place.
-Joe
You can go, but you don't take the Republic with you. You can say 'fuck you" all you want. You can't break the union, short of treason against the United States. That's why it would be war. To beat down the traitors to our country.
You're right it would be treason. That's exactly what the Founders did. They committed High Treason. They were men who did what was considered wrong in order to do what they knew was right.
Lets say some state secedes. Do we really have the stomach to fight to keep them in?
If any single state did seceed, you'd see an ass whoppin'. Mexico even holds itself together with it's piss ant military. Rebels have taken capitals but it never last. If a state announced this, you'd see choppers and tanks moving so damned fast your head would spin. The governors guts would be all over TV.
How many people did threaten to leave the USA, exactly?
FWIW, I was tempted, but then I discovered that Canada wouldn't allow me to become a citizen because I'm too old.
I have no idea about the numbers. that's not important, what''s important is the blatant lie that no one on the left " never didn't want to be Americans"
they clearly stated they would leave,, nay even stood beside the road with I'm sorry signs and I'm leaving signs..
Secession is not un-American, secession is as American as apple pie or baseball.
The solution is simple..CONSTIUTIONAL CONVENTION.
The right of the people to say 'fuck you' to the tyranny de jour is what started America in the first place.
-Joe
Your definition of tyranny seems more than a bit loose. The government is not quartering federal troops in private homes...it is not suspending habeas corpus...it is not disappearing citizens from the streets...oh, and the taxation is with representation, and unless you're making $250,000 ayear or more, your taxes aren't going to increase.