Santa Fe shooter used Shotgun and .38 revolver...anti gunners were praying for an AR-15, and are sad

[2aguy]

So....now what? The anti gunners were praying to a god they don't believe in that the shooter was going to have used another AR-15 rifle....and darn it...he used a shotgun and a .38 revolver.......you know, the guns the anti gunners pretend they don't want to confiscate...

10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting; Suspect Used Shotgun and Revolver

He used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at a news conference.

Trump claims he will do everything he can to protect students, except obviously make it more difficult for people who shouldn't have them to get guns. Trump's empty words mean nothing because we all know that he will never act.

The person that own the Shotgun amd .38 was the father and not the Son, so how do you stop theft from within the home?

Was it the father failure to secure his firearms that are common in a good amount of farming and hunting families?

Yes, but he did not.

So your law to prevent the Son from owning one would have not matter seeing those guns were own by his father and not him!

So thank you for playing but you lose as usual!

And that is why they will never stop until they ban and confiscate all guns..... which is why we draw the line now, with AR-15 rifles, and magazines...

Nonsense. A lot of us have guns moron

As I states eleswhere, statists love guns for themselves....it is their victims that they want unarmed and helpless....

 

[2aguy]

So....now what? The anti gunners were praying to a god they don't believe in that the shooter was going to have used another AR-15 rifle....and darn it...he used a shotgun and a .38 revolver.......you know, the guns the anti gunners pretend they don't want to confiscate...

10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting; Suspect Used Shotgun and Revolver

He used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at a news conference.

You obnoxious moron. We were praying for no shooting.

No..... your leadership needs these shootings, they need dead kids to push gun control...they can't get traction without dead kids....

 

[Marion Morrison]

So....now what? The anti gunners were praying to a god they don't believe in that the shooter was going to have used another AR-15 rifle....and darn it...he used a shotgun and a .38 revolver.......you know, the guns the anti gunners pretend they don't want to confiscate...

10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting; Suspect Used Shotgun and Revolver

He used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at a news conference.

Trump claims he will do everything he can to protect students, except obviously make it more difficult for people who shouldn't have them to get guns. Trump's empty words mean nothing because we all know that he will never act.

No, your words mean nothing, silly faggot.

 

[Marion Morrison]

So....now what? The anti gunners were praying to a god they don't believe in that the shooter was going to have used another AR-15 rifle....and darn it...he used a shotgun and a .38 revolver.......you know, the guns the anti gunners pretend they don't want to confiscate...

10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting; Suspect Used Shotgun and Revolver

He used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at a news conference.

You obnoxious moron. We were praying for no shooting.

No..... your leadership needs these shootings, they need dead kids to push gun control...they can't get traction without dead kids....

Leftist ideals are the cause of school shootings.

 

[JoeB131]

You asshats don't want armed guards in schools...you know, the real reason the death count was so low.......and armed staff would keep these guys away completely...by you need dead kids....

Um, they had an armed guard at Parkland. And the shooting was over before he reacted.

They had an armed guard at Columbine. Shooting was over before he reacted.

They had an armed guard at VA Tech. Shooting was over before they reacted.

Seeing a pattern here, 2TinyGuy? Armed guards don't do a whole lot of good when the people attacking know where they are, plan out their rampages and can finish killing everyone they want to kill before they can react.

Here's how you stop school shootings. Y ou ban guns.

The rest of the world has figured this out.

 

[JoeB131]

Nazis hated capitalists......

right. So why did Ford, IBM, Krupp, Flick, IG Farben, etc. do so well under the Nazis?

German Industry and the Third Reich

 

[JoeB131]

At this point we don't know how the father kept his guns...... until we know that we can't know what his responsibility is.

Naw, we should just hang him on principle... as a warning to any other parent that angsty teens and guns just don't mix.

 

[JoeB131]

As I states eleswhere, statists love guns for themselves....it is their victims that they want unarmed and helpless....

Um, yeah, here's the thing...

We have 900 Americans killed by law enforcement every year, usually the the grand cheering of the right. Most of them are probably justified, because the other guy was exercising his second amendment right to be an asshole.

This is nothing compared to the other 31,000 deaths of civilians by guns.

Now meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, they have 48 gun homicides a year 106 gun suicides. As for police shootings by the nasty old state. They've had 54 of those... OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS!!!

Seems to me that your "Cure" is worse than the disease.

 

[2aguy]

You asshats don't want armed guards in schools...you know, the real reason the death count was so low.......and armed staff would keep these guys away completely...by you need dead kids....

Um, they had an armed guard at Parkland. And the shooting was over before he reacted.

They had an armed guard at Columbine. Shooting was over before he reacted.

They had an armed guard at VA Tech. Shooting was over before they reacted.

Seeing a pattern here, 2TinyGuy? Armed guards don't do a whole lot of good when the people attacking know where they are, plan out their rampages and can finish killing everyone they want to kill before they can react.

Here's how you stop school shootings. Y ou ban guns.

The rest of the world has figured this out.

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Moron.....are you really this dumb? The armed guard at Parkland stayed outside and didn't even attempt to attack the killer......on top of that, they have over 12 buildings on that campus and over 3,200 students and staff.......

With each case you are supporting the need for armed and trained staff, since armed guards are not enough and can't cover an entire building unless you have as many armed guards as congress has....

The rest of the world is living on luck........they have almost had 3 school shootings in Britain, only stopped by luck..... and as one Australian pointed out, at this point in time, their nuts don't mass murder people in public as often, they mass murder their own families...different cultures different practices.....

 

[2aguy]

As I states eleswhere, statists love guns for themselves....it is their victims that they want unarmed and helpless....

Um, yeah, here's the thing...

We have 900 Americans killed by law enforcement every year, usually the the grand cheering of the right. Most of them are probably justified, because the other guy was exercising his second amendment right to be an asshole.

This is nothing compared to the other 31,000 deaths of civilians by guns.

Now meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, they have 48 gun homicides a year 106 gun suicides. As for police shootings by the nasty old state. They've had 54 of those... OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS!!!

Seems to me that your "Cure" is worse than the disease.

Here...the truth about gun death in the U.S......since you always lie and mix suicides with murder in order to get a bigger number...


Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2016
Gun suicide

22,938


========================

Gun Accidental death.....
2016:
495
==================

Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2016--

11,004
=======================

Suicide
...even though Japan, Korea, China, all have absolute gun control for law abiding citizens...only criminals and cops can have guns.......and they have higher suicide rates than we do....and our non-gun suicide rate has been higher than our gun suicide rate for 2 years in a row.....

Suicide rates Europe v. United States

Main tables - Eurostat

May, 2014

France....14.13

Finland...14.55

Poland....15.51

Belgium....17.28

Austria....15.26


U.S.....13.00


Gun Accidental Death...

Gun accidents....in a country with over 320,000,000 people...... with 400,000,000 guns in private hands, and over 15,700,000 people carrying guns for self defense..... 495 accidental gun deaths....

Gun murder
Of the 11,004 gun murders in this country, 70-80% of the victims are criminals, engaged in criminal activity or part of the criminal life style....and of the remaining victims....many of them are friends and family of the criminal...caught up in the criminal's lifestyle.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


They had low gun murder in

 

[2aguy]

As I states eleswhere, statists love guns for themselves....it is their victims that they want unarmed and helpless....

Um, yeah, here's the thing...

We have 900 Americans killed by law enforcement every year, usually the the grand cheering of the right. Most of them are probably justified, because the other guy was exercising his second amendment right to be an asshole.

This is nothing compared to the other 31,000 deaths of civilians by guns.

Now meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, they have 48 gun homicides a year 106 gun suicides. As for police shootings by the nasty old state. They've had 54 of those... OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS!!!

Seems to me that your "Cure" is worse than the disease.

britain had a low gun murder rate before they banned and confiscated guns....then, after banning and confiscating guns, their gun murder rate spiked for 10 years, and now it is the same level it was at before they banned and confiscated guns...meaning their gun laws didn't effect their gun murder rate.

Meanwhile, as their social welfare state breaks down their family structure and they import violent 3rd world criminals...their gun crime rate is up 44% in London as it continues to rise......and violent crime is going through the roof.......

And in the U.S......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

You asshats don't want armed guards in schools...you know, the real reason the death count was so low.......and armed staff would keep these guys away completely...by you need dead kids....

Um, they had an armed guard at Parkland. And the shooting was over before he reacted.

They had an armed guard at Columbine. Shooting was over before he reacted.

They had an armed guard at VA Tech. Shooting was over before they reacted.

Seeing a pattern here, 2TinyGuy? Armed guards don't do a whole lot of good when the people attacking know where they are, plan out their rampages and can finish killing everyone they want to kill before they can react.

Here's how you stop school shootings. Y ou ban guns.

The rest of the world has figured this out.

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You stop school shootings by getting rid of democrat gun free school zones so shooters know they can't just walk in and shoot people....since they won't know who is and isn't armed and will not know how long they will have to murder people.......that is why you arm and train staff, and why you let regular citizens carry their legal guns into schools when they have business there.....it scares off the shooters...

 

[Missourian]

^ this is what trumptard rethuglicans do...

...argue with strawman ALL DAY LONG throwing punches in the air where no one has ever swung.

It's not shadowboxing...it's what we've been saying all along. The 38 revolver and the pump action shotgun have been around for literally a hundred years. Organized American schools have been around even longer. Yet school shootings are a modern phenomena.

It isn't the guns that have changed...it's that the people have become crazier. You can speculate on what to blame that on ...But for sure guns isn't one of them.

My Dad took his 32-20 lever action Winchester Model 94 squirrel gun to school with him. Locked it in his locker...most of the guys did back then. They'd hunt after school...not for fun, but for subsistence. And that was not Missouri...that was Maryland.

 

[pismoe]

So....now what? The anti gunners were praying to a god they don't believe in that the shooter was going to have used another AR-15 rifle....and darn it...he used a shotgun and a .38 revolver.......you know, the guns the anti gunners pretend they don't want to confiscate...

10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting; Suspect Used Shotgun and Revolver

He used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at a news conference.

---------------------------------------------------------- the ultimate 'FUDD' Guns , friendly looking and nice guns . FUDD gun owners should probably start takng the anti gunners seriously .

 

[JoeB131]

Moron.....are you really this dumb? The armed guard at Parkland stayed outside and didn't even attempt to attack the killer......on top of that, they have over 12 buildings on that campus and over 3,200 students and staff.......

Exactly my point. By the time this guy had figured out where the problem was, the shooter was having a cool one at Starbucks, or wherever he was when they caught him.

SO how many guards should we have in that school? 10? 100?

With each case you are supporting the need for armed and trained staff, since armed guards are not enough and can't cover an entire building unless you have as many armed guards as congress has....

NO, I'm stating clearly... we do not need an armed populace. When everyone gets a gun, you are going to have things like this happen.

Frankly, a bunch of teachers running around with guns probably would have made things worse.

 

[JoeB131]

You stop school shootings by getting rid of democrat gun free school zones so shooters know they can't just walk in and shoot people....since they won't know who is and isn't armed and will not know how long they will have to murder people.

Do you think Shooters really care who is armed. Most of them are trying to commit suicide to start with...

 

[Crepitus]

So....now what? The anti gunners were praying to a god they don't believe in that the shooter was going to have used another AR-15 rifle....and darn it...he used a shotgun and a .38 revolver.......you know, the guns the anti gunners pretend they don't want to confiscate...

10 Dead in Santa Fe, Texas, School Shooting; Suspect Used Shotgun and Revolver

He used a shotgun and a .38 revolver, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said at a news conference.

You obnoxious moron. We were praying for no shooting.

No..... your leadership needs these shootings, they need dead kids to push gun control...they can't get traction without dead kids....

Nobody wants or needs these shootings and to say they do either means you are barely smart enough to breath unassisted or so thoroughly brainwashed it shrank.

 

[pismoe]

think that you are 'FOS' with you post number 97 Crep !!

 

[Crepitus]

think that you are 'FOS' with you post number 97 Crep !!

That's nice.

Puts you in the same category.

 

[Crepitus]

Moron.....are you really this dumb? The armed guard at Parkland stayed outside and didn't even attempt to attack the killer......on top of that, they have over 12 buildings on that campus and over 3,200 students and staff.......

Exactly my point. By the time this guy had figured out where the problem was, the shooter was having a cool one at Starbucks, or wherever he was when they caught him.

SO how many guards should we have in that school? 10? 100?

With each case you are supporting the need for armed and trained staff, since armed guards are not enough and can't cover an entire building unless you have as many armed guards as congress has....

NO, I'm stating clearly... we do not need an armed populace. When everyone gets a gun, you are going to have things like this happen.

Frankly, a bunch of teachers running around with guns probably would have made things worse.

Agree. Untrained idiots will not help.