Romney likes to fire people

[JoeB131]

Yes, they are. And sure, some of those millions are choosing rent over health. And I see that as an issue that needs to be addressed. What I don't see is how this current clusterfuck of a bill is genuinely going to solve the problem LONG TERM. But, there are also millions who can afford to live and pay for healthcare but choose not to. That is their choice and I support their right to choice to be stupid.

The problem I have with the left wing argument is that, yet again, you want to force everyone to live to your rules. I don't accept your right to tell me how to live. I have the right to make my own choices.

That would be a valid argument if we carry through on the "let him die" philosophy, which we don't. We take care of the uninsured at emergency rooms, and when they prove unable to pay, the cost is spread around to the insured in the form of higher costs.

Of course, the real problem is that because we have uninsured - and even insured people with crappy insurance - people putting off medicin in favor of rent, the problems become more extreme. That slight cold you didn't want to pay the $132 co-pay on now balloons into a $1000 visit to the emergency room for acute pneumonia.

Here's the thing. Any health care system is going to be socialistic by nature. Most years, I paid in (or my employers did) more than I took out. Except that one year I had a lot of issues, and mysteriously, was let go the following year, as was anyone else who had a medical issue.

You will either be paying someone else's way, or someone will be paying your way.

My problem with Obama/RomneyCare (Romney's now defending his program again... I guess he figures he can.) is that it doesn't address the real issue, that costs are spiralling out of control. It's just increasing the support base unwillingly. It does nothing to control costs.

 

[JoeB131]

My GF said to me, "I thought Mormons weren't supposed to lie?"

Bless her.

Your girlfriend is an idiot.... but we knew that already because she's dating you and you're a lying idiot.

The problem with Mormons is that they are trained from birth to not be able to tell what truth is.

No, seriously. Joseph Smith was talking to God. And Hebrews were riding Elephants in America. And God was for Polygamy. Until he was against it. And that underwear really is magic.

 

[Truthmatters]

public option

 

[Greenbeard]

On Monday morning, addressing the Nashua Chamber of Commerce, he said he wants individuals to be able to choose among different health insurance policies as they seek coverage.

“That means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. It also means if you don’t like what they do, you can fire them,” he said.

A strong endorsement of the exchange concept. Is Romney getting on the "re-elect Obama" bandwagon?

 

[Truthmatters]

My GF said to me, "I thought Mormons weren't supposed to lie?"

Bless her.

Your girlfriend is an idiot.... but we knew that already because she's dating you and you're a lying idiot.

jeusus you are a nasty ass person

 

[Two Thumbs]

NASHUA, N.H. — Republican front-runner Mitt Romney stumbled down the homestretch of the New Hampshire primary on Monday, declaring, “I like being able to fire people who provide services to me” as his rivals intensified already fierce criticism.

“Gov. Romney enjoys firing people. I enjoy creating jobs,” said former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, who has staked his candidacy on a strong showing in Tuesday’s primary and has shown signs of gaining ground in recent polls.

Rivals pounce as Romney says: “I like being able to fire people who provide services to me’ - The Washington Post

negged for being such a lying partisan hack.

That's just a sound bite put out by the liars of the DNC. And to be specific, it's the lying twat in charge that put that out.

 

[Two Thumbs]

My GF said to me, "I thought Mormons weren't supposed to lie?"

Bless her.

Your girlfriend is an idiot.... but we knew that already because she's dating you and you're a lying idiot.

jeusus you are a nasty ass person

you used a murdered child you spew your hate and venom.

Who the fuck are you to talk?

 

[skookerasbil]

So Chris, you'd prefer to live in a nation where you can't fire people who fail to provide you with what you want? You really think we should be forced to continue paying for crappy service? Do you work for a telephone company or something?

Dont forget Avatar.........to every single solitary lefty k00k on this board, their perception of the world is that nothing should fail and that there are solutions to everything. Thankfully......they are less than 21% of our population.........those who never care to answer two basic questions: 1) At what cost?...and 2) Compared to what?


Indeed.......life is about understanding there is something called necessary tradeoffs.......a concept that thankfully at least twice as many Americans do understand fully!!!

 

[California Girl]

Yes, they are. And sure, some of those millions are choosing rent over health. And I see that as an issue that needs to be addressed. What I don't see is how this current clusterfuck of a bill is genuinely going to solve the problem LONG TERM. But, there are also millions who can afford to live and pay for healthcare but choose not to. That is their choice and I support their right to choice to be stupid.

The problem I have with the left wing argument is that, yet again, you want to force everyone to live to your rules. I don't accept your right to tell me how to live. I have the right to make my own choices.

That would be a valid argument if we carry through on the "let him die" philosophy, which we don't. We take care of the uninsured at emergency rooms, and when they prove unable to pay, the cost is spread around to the insured in the form of higher costs.

Of course, the real problem is that because we have uninsured - and even insured people with crappy insurance - people putting off medicin in favor of rent, the problems become more extreme. That slight cold you didn't want to pay the $132 co-pay on now balloons into a $1000 visit to the emergency room for acute pneumonia.

Here's the thing. Any health care system is going to be socialistic by nature. Most years, I paid in (or my employers did) more than I took out. Except that one year I had a lot of issues, and mysteriously, was let go the following year, as was anyone else who had a medical issue.

You will either be paying someone else's way, or someone will be paying your way.

My problem with Obama/RomneyCare (Romney's now defending his program again... I guess he figures he can.) is that it doesn't address the real issue, that costs are spiralling out of control. It's just increasing the support base unwillingly. It does nothing to control costs.

I live in a country where I have access to this "free" healthcare. I have never been to the Doctor because I have a slight cold, and that slight cold has never turned to acute pneumonia.

I'm sure these stories make for very dramatic arguments but they are hardly accurate, nor are they the norm.

Also, interestingly, in countries such as the UK - where they have "free" healthcare... guess what? People still die of very curable illnesses, there are incidents of people (particularly the elderly) starving to death in their hospitals, people have sued their healthcare providers to get life saving treatment, all kinds of crap.... and we think they have it soooo much better than we do. They don't.

 

[Katzndogz]

If you have private health insurance and you aren't getting treated fairly, fire them and get another company. If it was single payer government insurance you lump it. You can't fire the govrnment insurance company. That's the way the libs like it.

 

[skookerasbil]

My GF said to me, "I thought Mormons weren't supposed to lie?"

Bless her.

Your girlfriend is an idiot.... but we knew that already because she's dating you and you're a lying idiot.

jeusus you are a nasty ass person

Ya know sweets.........I cant wait until election night in November. There are a handful of social invalids on this board that I am particualrly interested in seeing suffer a most profound kick in the groin, and I will be in here rubbing salt in the gargantuan open wounds of every single k00k on this board. Its going to be a fucking hoot.......as I roll out some new gay MSPAINT PHotobucket Classics illustrating an epic level of fAiL as this silly batshiite ideology gets mothballed for two generations!!!

lmao........cant come soon enough..........

 

[California Girl]

My GF said to me, "I thought Mormons weren't supposed to lie?"

Bless her.

Your girlfriend is an idiot.... but we knew that already because she's dating you and you're a lying idiot.

jeusus you are a nasty ass person

I identified his gf as an idiot because of her ridiculously stupid comment about Mormons. I identified Chris as a liar and an idiot because he lied in the title of this thread and maintains that lie - despite being proven wrong. Therefore, my comment is valid and honest.

You, on the other hand, are another lying idiot.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yes, they are. And sure, some of those millions are choosing rent over health. And I see that as an issue that needs to be addressed. What I don't see is how this current clusterfuck of a bill is genuinely going to solve the problem LONG TERM. But, there are also millions who can afford to live and pay for healthcare but choose not to. That is their choice and I support their right to choice to be stupid.

The problem I have with the left wing argument is that, yet again, you want to force everyone to live to your rules. I don't accept your right to tell me how to live. I have the right to make my own choices.

That would be a valid argument if we carry through on the "let him die" philosophy, which we don't. We take care of the uninsured at emergency rooms, and when they prove unable to pay, the cost is spread around to the insured in the form of higher costs.

Of course, the real problem is that because we have uninsured - and even insured people with crappy insurance - people putting off medicin in favor of rent, the problems become more extreme. That slight cold you didn't want to pay the $132 co-pay on now balloons into a $1000 visit to the emergency room for acute pneumonia.

Here's the thing. Any health care system is going to be socialistic by nature. Most years, I paid in (or my employers did) more than I took out. Except that one year I had a lot of issues, and mysteriously, was let go the following year, as was anyone else who had a medical issue.

You will either be paying someone else's way, or someone will be paying your way.

My problem with Obama/RomneyCare (Romney's now defending his program again... I guess he figures he can.) is that it doesn't address the real issue, that costs are spiralling out of control. It's just increasing the support base unwillingly. It does nothing to control costs.

I live in a country where I have access to this "free" healthcare. I have never been to the Doctor because I have a slight cold, and that slight cold has never turned to acute pneumonia.

I'm sure these stories make for very dramatic arguments but they are hardly accurate, nor are they the norm.

Also, interestingly, in countries such as the UK - where they have "free" healthcare... guess what? People still die of very curable illnesses, there are incidents of people (particularly the elderly) starving to death in their hospitals, people have sued their healthcare providers to get life saving treatment, all kinds of crap.... and we think they have it soooo much better than we do. They don't.

Very astute post Cal girl

 

[midcan5]

Having lived and survived and prospered in corporate America for over forty years I can tell you all a thing or two, but why bother when the republicans tell on each other already.

'King of Bain'

"Capitalism made America great - free markets, innovation, hard work - the building blocks of the American Dream. But in the wrong hands some of those dreams can turn into nightmares. This film is about one raider and his firm and how they destroyed that dream for thousands of Americans and their families - Mitt Romney and Bain Capital." King of Bain | When Mitt Romney Came to Town


"Call it Corporate America vs. We the People. Globalization vs. Mother Earth. Privatization vs. the Public Good. Wall Street vs. Main Street. Plutocracy vs. Democracy. Which side are you on?" Scott McLarty Which Side Are You On? New Language for a New Political Reality | Common Dreams

 

[cheetah440]

Hostess is going bankrupt. Kodak is preparing to file. How is this possible? Bain isn't involved with either of these companies. This can't make sense. Someone has to be profiting from this corporate greed.

 

[JoeB131]

I live in a country where I have access to this "free" healthcare. I have never been to the Doctor because I have a slight cold, and that slight cold has never turned to acute pneumonia.

I'm sure these stories make for very dramatic arguments but they are hardly accurate, nor are they the norm.

Also, interestingly, in countries such as the UK - where they have "free" healthcare... guess what? People still die of very curable illnesses, there are incidents of people (particularly the elderly) starving to death in their hospitals, people have sued their healthcare providers to get life saving treatment, all kinds of crap.... and we think they have it soooo much better than we do. They don't.

Maybe.

But the UK has a lower infant mortality rate than the US, a longer life expectency and a lower rate of people going bankrupt because of a medical crisis. Oh, yeah, and they only spend about half per capita what we spend.

 

[The T]

Hostess is going bankrupt. Kodak is preparing to file. How is this possible? Bain isn't involved with either of these companies. This can't make sense. Someone has to be profiting from this corporate greed.

Corporate greed or excessive taxation/regulation?

You choose.

 

[The Rabbi]

Hostess is going bankrupt. Kodak is preparing to file. How is this possible? Bain isn't involved with either of these companies. This can't make sense. Someone has to be profiting from this corporate greed.

Corporate greed or excessive taxation/regulation?

You choose.

Could just be simple mis-management. Kodak's core business of film photography has been going away for a long time. THey never transitioned to a different line of business.
Hostess I dont know.
I know in a bankruptcy the lawyers tend to get all the money. And which candidate do you think the lawyers support?

 

[The T]

Hostess is going bankrupt. Kodak is preparing to file. How is this possible? Bain isn't involved with either of these companies. This can't make sense. Someone has to be profiting from this corporate greed.

Corporate greed or excessive taxation/regulation?

You choose.

Could just be simple mis-management. Kodak's core business of film photography has been going away for a long time. THey never transitioned to a different line of business.
Hostess I dont know.
I know in a bankruptcy the lawyers tend to get all the money. And which candidate do you think the lawyers support?

Why the O...Naturally. The District of Criminals is replete with them.

As to Kodak? Shame. I own a few of thier cameras (Film and digital), and they are quite good and I recommend them highly. I also own a couple of thier printers that I like.

As to the Twinkie folks?

Not sure.

But I think you have it pegged. Self-agrandizing LAWYERS.

 

[Sundial]

Corporate greed or excessive taxation/regulation?

You choose.

Could just be simple mis-management. Kodak's core business of film photography has been going away for a long time. THey never transitioned to a different line of business.
Hostess I dont know.
I know in a bankruptcy the lawyers tend to get all the money. And which candidate do you think the lawyers support?

Why the O...Naturally. The District of Criminals is replete with them.

As to Kodak? Shame. I own a few of thier cameras (Film and digital), and they are quite good and I recommend them highly. I also own a couple of thier printers that I like.

As to the Twinkie folks?

Not sure.

But I think you have it pegged. Self-agrandizing LAWYERS.

^^^ You know, I think it's envy. I think it's about class warfare. Instead of being jealous, why not get out there and start doing some bankruptcy lawyering yourself?