Romney likes to fire people

Could just be simple mis-management. Kodak's core business of film photography has been going away for a long time. THey never transitioned to a different line of business.
Hostess I dont know.
I know in a bankruptcy the lawyers tend to get all the money. And which candidate do you think the lawyers support?
Why the O...Naturally. The District of Criminals is replete with them.

As to Kodak? Shame. I own a few of thier cameras (Film and digital), and they are quite good and I recommend them highly. I also own a couple of thier printers that I like.

As to the Twinkie folks?

Not sure.

But I think you have it pegged. Self-agrandizing LAWYERS.

^^^ You know, I think it's envy. I think it's about class warfare. Instead of being jealous, why not get out there and start doing some bankruptcy lawyering yourself?

Why don't you shut the fuck up?
No one begrudges lawyers what they make, or argues they've "made enough." Just that they tend to stack laws in their favor.
 
Why the O...Naturally. The District of Criminals is replete with them.

As to Kodak? Shame. I own a few of thier cameras (Film and digital), and they are quite good and I recommend them highly. I also own a couple of thier printers that I like.

As to the Twinkie folks?

Not sure.

But I think you have it pegged. Self-agrandizing LAWYERS.


^^^ You know, I think it's envy. I think it's about class warfare. Instead of being jealous, why not get out there and start doing some bankruptcy lawyering yourself?

Why don't you shut the fuck up?
No one begrudges lawyers what they make, or argues they've "made enough." Just that they tend to stack laws in their favor.

You sound like a socialist. Quit whining.
 
^^^ You know, I think it's envy. I think it's about class warfare. Instead of being jealous, why not get out there and start doing some bankruptcy lawyering yourself?

Why don't you shut the fuck up?
No one begrudges lawyers what they make, or argues they've "made enough." Just that they tend to stack laws in their favor.

You sound like a socialist. Quit whining.

You sound like a dumbshit. Quit posting.
 
I live in a country where I have access to this "free" healthcare. I have never been to the Doctor because I have a slight cold, and that slight cold has never turned to acute pneumonia.

I'm sure these stories make for very dramatic arguments but they are hardly accurate, nor are they the norm.

Also, interestingly, in countries such as the UK - where they have "free" healthcare... guess what? People still die of very curable illnesses, there are incidents of people (particularly the elderly) starving to death in their hospitals, people have sued their healthcare providers to get life saving treatment, all kinds of crap.... and we think they have it soooo much better than we do. They don't.

Maybe.

But the UK has a lower infant mortality rate than the US, a longer life expectancy and a lower rate of people going bankrupt because of a medical crisis. Oh, yeah, and they only spend about half per capita what we spend.
Then maybe you might actually connect these things to the quality of healthcare received but I would venture a guess that you will not. I keep hearing this asinine lie repeated over and over again. The fact is that much of these things are DIRECTLY connected to our lifestyle, not healthcare. Sure, we are lacking in preventative care measures and that plays a part but the main reason that we live shorter lives is because we are fat. Infant mortality is another animal as well. Minus the fact that there is NO standard for measuring such a figure and that the US is one of the few nations that do not declare a living baby born before a specific date a stillbirth, our lifestyle also affects this figure as it increases the rate of early childbirth.


Bankruptcy has nothing to do with the quality of care at all either. There are reasons that we spend more on healthcare though and the HC law makes some if those problems worse, not better while not addressing any real measures that would decrease the cost of care.
 
Maybe.

But the UK has a lower infant mortality rate than the US, a longer life expectancy and a lower rate of people going bankrupt because of a medical crisis. Oh, yeah, and they only spend about half per capita what we spend.


Then maybe you might actually connect these things to the quality of healthcare received but I would venture a guess that you will not. I keep hearing this asinine lie repeated over and over again. The fact is that much of these things are DIRECTLY connected to our lifestyle, not healthcare. Sure, we are lacking in preventative care measures and that plays a part but the main reason that we live shorter lives is because we are fat. Infant mortality is another animal as well. Minus the fact that there is NO standard for measuring such a figure and that the US is one of the few nations that do not declare a living baby born before a specific date a stillbirth, our lifestyle also affects this figure as it increases the rate of early childbirth.

Bankruptcy has nothing to do with the quality of care at all either. There are reasons that we spend more on healthcare though and the HC law makes some if those problems worse, not better while not addressing any real measures that would decrease the cost of care.

Bankruptcy is directly linked to the awful system we have. Since health care is directly linked to your ability to work, when you are sick and can't work (or are taking care of someone who is sick and taking a lot of time off), your medical bills tend to pile up very quickly. Not only are 62% of bankruptcies linked to medical crisis, but 75% of those involved had insurance when the crisis started. That's just appalling.

the tiresome "We're fat and counting dead babies the right way" arguments for our appalling stats are just silly. We just have a bad system. Which is why no one in the world is saying, "Man, we need to have a system just like the Americans where we spend twice as much and get less!" No one looks at us as a model.
 
Maybe.

But the UK has a lower infant mortality rate than the US, a longer life expectancy and a lower rate of people going bankrupt because of a medical crisis. Oh, yeah, and they only spend about half per capita what we spend.


Then maybe you might actually connect these things to the quality of healthcare received but I would venture a guess that you will not. I keep hearing this asinine lie repeated over and over again. The fact is that much of these things are DIRECTLY connected to our lifestyle, not healthcare. Sure, we are lacking in preventative care measures and that plays a part but the main reason that we live shorter lives is because we are fat. Infant mortality is another animal as well. Minus the fact that there is NO standard for measuring such a figure and that the US is one of the few nations that do not declare a living baby born before a specific date a stillbirth, our lifestyle also affects this figure as it increases the rate of early childbirth.

Bankruptcy has nothing to do with the quality of care at all either. There are reasons that we spend more on healthcare though and the HC law makes some if those problems worse, not better while not addressing any real measures that would decrease the cost of care.

Bankruptcy is directly linked to the awful system we have. Since health care is directly linked to your ability to work, when you are sick and can't work (or are taking care of someone who is sick and taking a lot of time off), your medical bills tend to pile up very quickly. Not only are 62% of bankruptcies linked to medical crisis, but 75% of those involved had insurance when the crisis started. That's just appalling.

the tiresome "We're fat and counting dead babies the right way" arguments for our appalling stats are just silly. We just have a bad system. Which is why no one in the world is saying, "Man, we need to have a system just like the Americans where we spend twice as much and get less!" No one looks at us as a model.

So how do we fix this broken system Joe?
 
So how do we fix this broken system Joe?

Have no idea. All the options suck. Too bad we can't have an adult conversation.

As long as people are getting filthy rich on the status quo, it isn't going to get fixed..

Until the system collapses, because insurance companies won't be able to make a profit anymore, we won't get anywhere near addressing it. Romney/ObamaCare just slaps a bandage on it by forcing people into the system who don't want to be there.
 
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