Rights for Pedophiles?

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Northern Colorado Gazette
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Jul 3, 2011
Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
Claim unfair to be stigmatized for sexual orientation

by Jack Minor –

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization’s website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”

In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”

The White House praised the bill saying, “At root, this isn’t just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another – whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.”

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, “Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality.”

He went on to say, “True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent.”

When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, “If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles’ sexual interests prefer children and, “There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else.”

In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges.”

Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, “Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children.”

Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of “basic sexual rights” that includes “the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud.” Another right is to, “be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior” and “the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire.” The organization also says that no one should be “disadvantaged because of age.”

Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.
 
Children cannot give consent for sexual acts therefore pedophilia is a crime. What motivates pedophiles is no different to what motivates other criminals. Will serial killers want to use the "I was born that way" defense too?
 
Children cannot give consent for sexual acts therefore pedophilia is a crime. What motivates pedophiles is no different to what motivates other criminals. Will serial killers want to use the "I was born that way" defense too?

Of course. Whatever works right ?
 
Children cannot give consent for sexual acts therefore pedophilia is a crime. What motivates pedophiles is no different to what motivates other criminals. Will serial killers want to use the "I was born that way" defense too?

Of course. Whatever works right ?

No doubt there will be some shyster who will try that defense but it won't fly. Even Dexter knows that what he does is illegal. :D
 
Children cannot give consent for sexual acts therefore pedophilia is a crime. What motivates pedophiles is no different to what motivates other criminals. Will serial killers want to use the "I was born that way" defense too?

Of course. Whatever works right ?

No doubt there will be some shyster who will try that defense but it won't fly. Even Dexter knows that what he does is illegal. :D

Look how long it took for homosexuals to legally marry. These things take time. Laws can be changed. Self Determination is the buzz word these days. A fancy name for being able to do whatever the hell you want to do. Hell, social science can easily convince people that children are being deprived of their right to consent and that suicidal people are being deprived of their right to die. Everything is negotiable.
 
Laws are certainly subject to change since nothing is an absolute. However it took a majority of the people to accept that homosexuality was not a "threat" to society before anything happened. Certainly we will see attempts to make those changes just like the one in the OP.
 
Well, there's a bunch of sick sons of bitches. Perhaps these learned psychiatrists should be psychoanalized themselves. How much more depraved can we as a society become before we are through? This just goes way beyond the pale.
 
Of course they arr. that was the goal from the start
 
A majority of the people do not accept homosexuality today, a majority does not need to accept the normalcy of child molestation. A vocal and motivated minority will do the same thing.
 
It's no secret that NAMBLA is part of the democrat party base. The fact that the "north American man-boy love association" operates in the open is an indication of the perverted nature of the mainstream media and the disregard the democrat party has for the safety of children.
 
Consent.

Consent.

Consent.

Children and animals cannot consent to sex.

Idiots, shut up.
 
Consent.

Consent.

Consent.

Children and animals cannot consent to sex.

Idiots, shut up.

They can't consent only by definition. If we change the definition of consent like we changed the definition of marriage.... voila. The are now EMPOWERED to consent.
 
Consent.

Consent.

Consent.

Children and animals cannot consent to sex.

Idiots, shut up.

They can't consent only by definition. If we change the definition of consent like we changed the definition of marriage.... voila. The are now EMPOWERED to consent.

I'm impressed. You didn't say 'wallah' like most internet denizens do. Beyond that, this is a bait thread. Utter stupidity aimed at getting people banned. CIAO
 
"consent by definition"? WTF does that mean. Children can't consent, and if you are talking about changing the law, people will change the law to jail anyone who even talks about legalizing pedophilia.
 
"consent by definition"? WTF does that mean. Children can't consent, and if you are talking about changing the law, people will change the law to jail anyone who even talks about legalizing pedophilia.

Jake--I'm going to leave this one to you to figure out all by yourself. You can do it.

( hint--people are already talking about lowering the age of consent. )
 
Pedophiles are already gaining ground.

Pedophile's Release From Jail Puts Moms of Blond-Haired, Blue-Eyed Boys in a Tough Position | The Stir

Tom Szad is a sex offender SO dangerous that when Vermont releases him this coming Friday, they are warning parents of blue-eyed, blond-haired boys of 12 or 13 to watch out.


Vermont, unlike several other states, has no such thing as a "civil commitment" in which sex offenders who are considered a danger to the public are locked up beyond their prison sentences. Is it right? Probably not. But it's the reality.

Vermont doesn't have a system of justice that provides for laws like civil commitment. They have laws that practice restorative justice. Crime is a state of mind.

Restorative justice principles offer more inclusive processes and reorient the goals of justice. Restorative justice has been finding a receptive audience, as it creates common ground which accommodates the goals of many constituencies and provides a collective focus. The guiding principles of restorative justice are: [1]

1.Crime is an offense against human relationships.
2.Victims and the community are central to justice processes.
3.The first priority of justice processes is to assist victims.
4.The second priority is to restore the community, to the degree possible.
5.The offender has personal responsibility to victims and to the community for crimes committed.
6.Stakeholders share responsibilities for restorative justice through partnerships for action.
7.The offender will develop improved competency and understanding as a result of the restorative justice experience.
Restorative Justice | National Institute of Justice

Under a restorative justice program, pedophilia is "understood" not punished. It just needs to be spread to other states and imposed by sympathetic legislators and judges, exactly as same sex marriage has been.
 

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