Randian Cardboard heros

[Big Fitz]

I act in a way that is consistent with my beliefs.

Why do you hate the poor starving child?

better still. Why does he hate those who refuse to agree with him that something must be done about that poor starving child?

That's his REAL hate. Because he has no intent of doing something about it himself, and that guilt eats at him because SOMEONE should do SOMETHING... just not him even though the conviction of his own heart is on him.

And.... cue denial in 3...2...1....

 

[Claudette]

Didnt get it?

If you think it makes you smarter than me to swallow this sick womans clap trap then go look at her personal life.

She was a fricking mess.

LOL NO more of a mess than you appear to be.

Hell. I might even be a bigger mess. LOL

 

[Oddball]

TM doesn't know WTF she is talking about on any subject; why should this one be any different?

For every village, there is an idiot.

Or as Poison would have performed it:

"Every Village has its Idiot."

Just hadda drag Poison into this, didn't ya?

 

[boedicca]

Then tell me how it is evil like rand says?

What's evil is how the concept has been abused by those who promote Altrusim to convince people to act against their own well being.

They have redefined the word so that to adhere to it is self destructive.

 

[boedicca]

For every village, there is an idiot.

Or as Poison would have performed it:

"Every Village has its Idiot."

Just hadda drag Poison into this, didn't ya?

Twas Fittin'.

 

[Truthmatters]

Didnt get it?

If you think it makes you smarter than me to swallow this sick womans clap trap then go look at her personal life.

She was a fricking mess.

LOL NO more of a mess than you appear to be.

Hell. I might even be a bigger mess. LOL

I never ordered my friend to divorce his wife because she was a christian.

 

[boedicca]

Sacrifice — AynRand Lexicon


“Sacrifice” is the surrender of a greater value for the sake of a lesser one or of a nonvalue. Thus, altruism gauges a man’s virtue by the degree to which he surrenders, renounces or betrays his values (since help to a stranger or an enemy is regarded as more virtuous, less “selfish,” than help to those one loves). The rational principle of conduct is the exact opposite: always act in accordance with the hierarchy of your values, and never sacrifice a greater value to a lesser one.


It is unrandian to risk your own life to save a child you did not sire

Now it is also unRandian to give up your life in a war to protect people you dont know

No it isn't. It says to sacrifice a higher value to a nonvalue is to betray one's values.

You are the one assuming that a child who is not one's offspring has no value. What does that say about you?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

You really should get a clue before you spout off. Just reading about Rand from folks who don't like her isn't really research. It would be like me forming an opinion of you based on the words of Titanic Sailor and Freeman.

If you want to talk Rand, read Rand and have some facts. Arguing fifth generation hearsay is not good for your reputation.

 

[Truthmatters]

Sacrifice — AynRand Lexicon


“Sacrifice” is the surrender of a greater value for the sake of a lesser one or of a nonvalue. Thus, altruism gauges a man’s virtue by the degree to which he surrenders, renounces or betrays his values (since help to a stranger or an enemy is regarded as more virtuous, less “selfish,” than help to those one loves). The rational principle of conduct is the exact opposite: always act in accordance with the hierarchy of your values, and never sacrifice a greater value to a lesser one.


It is unrandian to risk your own life to save a child you did not sire

Now it is also unRandian to give up your life in a war to protect people you dont know

No it isn't. It says to sacrifice a higher value to a nonvalue is to betray one's values.

You are the one assuming that a child who is not one's offspring has no value. What does that say about you?

It says what rand herself says.

It says that selfishness is virtue.

How can you value the self over something that is not the self?


Did you know she also thought women should look up to man and that homosexuals were evil.

 

[Truthmatters]

You really should get a clue before you spout off. Just reading about Rand from folks who don't like her isn't really research. It would be like me forming an opinion of you based on the words of Titanic Sailor and Freeman.

If you want to talk Rand, read Rand and have some facts. Arguing fifth generation hearsay is not good for your reputation.

I read her a a teenager on my OWN volition.

I read her of my own free will with NO ONE to instruct me in what to think of her writings.

She fucking sucked ass big time was my impression.

She wrote like an love struck groupie about some unreal superhero MAN who was above every one else.

I had to force my self to read the shit..

There is a reason real scholars of philosophy think she is a non entity.

 

[Truthmatters]

Ayn Rand and the World She Made < PopMatters

The real Ayn Rand

 

[manu1959]

the rules were written by congress......gs played the game better than congress.....

gs simply followed the regulations written by the govt......

has obama given back all the money he got from gs ... you know the money they gave him shorting the housing market.....

 

[Liability]

HAHAHAHAAH

So you deny they are the people Ayn Rand glorified?

She glorified just these type of people

No. She did not.

You, truthdoesn'tmattertoyouatall, are merely lying again.

 

[manu1959]

Then tell me how it is evil like rand says?

What's evil is how the concept has been abused by those who promote Altrusim to convince people to act against their own well being.

They have redefined the word so that to adhere to it is self destructive.

howard roark laughed.................

 

[dilloduck]

Didnt get it?

If you think it makes you smarter than me to swallow this sick womans clap trap then go look at her personal life.

She was a fricking mess.

LOL NO more of a mess than you appear to be.

Hell. I might even be a bigger mess. LOL

I never ordered my friend to divorce his wife because she was a christian.

oh sure----that's what you CLAIM anyway.

 

[Claudette]

I've read Rand and think her books sucked.

I'll take The Lymond Chronicles by Dorothy Dunnet any day. Jeeze.

Just sayin. LOL

 

[Claudette]

Didnt get it?

If you think it makes you smarter than me to swallow this sick womans clap trap then go look at her personal life.

She was a fricking mess.

LOL NO more of a mess than you appear to be.

Hell. I might even be a bigger mess. LOL

I never ordered my friend to divorce his wife because she was a christian.

Link???LOL

 

[Oddball]

I've read Rand and think her books sucked.

Just sayin. LOL

Ditto...Her short stories and nonfiction, like The Virtue of Selfishness, are much less dreary and more concise reads.

 

[Tom Clancy]

You and rand hate self sacrafice remember.

Never feed a starving child if it means you willl go hungry.

Never fight to protect other human beings if you can die doing it.

Wait.. wait..

What are actually trying to say here?

Please, Emphasize.

 

[EriktheRed]

Seems like a good thread to bring this up again:


How to Succeed as an Ayn Rand Hero