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Why would an adult member forgo food to feed the young under your philosophy? The child begging for food it could not obtain its self was jsut tyring to fool you remember??
It's a matter of having a hierarchy of values. If the adult values the life of the child, why wouldn't the adult take care of that child? That's what parents do all of the time. Extending the value for children beyond a family circle is something that moral people feel; children are dependents and vulnerable. As a member of a community, it's rational for an adult to relieve the suffering of a future adult of the community.
The bigger issue you leave unasked is why is that child begging in the first place - where are the parents and why is no one caring for that child.? How's that Pack Animal system working for you in this scenario?
And, why do you assume that a child begging for food is just trying to "fool" anyone? A child is not an adult. Why would an adult expect the same level of responsibility from a child as he would an adult?
Please give me an example of a person in history who preformed this philosophy to your predicted end?
Anyone who developed a product or service and let the free markets determine his or her success has done this.
So Jesus was trying to fool the world, Gandi too?
I'd say that many of the teachings attributed to Jesus have been woefully manipulated for the interests of big power structures.
Ghandi's philosophy is ultimately one of self annihilation and avoidance of responsibility:
"There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."It was a moral choice he made and he lived to a riope old age now didtn he? He DID what he claimed would work and it did work. Being nonviolent was what gained the indian people their freedom now wasnt it. Who did Rand free with her selfishness?
The only way for a Ghandist to survive is to assume that someone else will fight his battles - that person being someone who rejects Ghandism. Talking about NOT GETTING IT you are blind. Who killed for Gandhi?
Note the parallels with what you believe. You despise those who are self-motivated to produce, yet you would not be able to exist without their productivity. That's why you hate Rand. She outed people like you.
Why would an adult member forgo food to feed the young under your philosophy? The child begging for food it could not obtain its self was jsut tyring to fool you remember??
It's a matter of having a hierarchy of values. If the adult values the life of the child, why wouldn't the adult take care of that child? That's what parents do all of the time. Extending the value for children beyond a family circle is something that moral people feel; children are dependents and vulnerable. As a member of a community, it's rational for an adult to relieve the suffering of a future adult of the community.
The bigger issue you leave unasked is why is that child begging in the first place - where are the parents and why is no one caring for that child.? How's that Pack Animal system
working for you in this scenario?
And, why do you assume that a child begging for food is just trying to "fool" anyone? A child is not an adult. Why would an adult expect the same level of responsibility from a child as he would an adult?
Please give me an example of a person in history who preformed this philosophy to your predicted end?
Anyone who developed a product or service and let the free markets determine his or her success has done this.
So Jesus was trying to fool the world, Gandi too?
I'd say that many of the teachings attributed to Jesus have been woefully manipulated for the interests of big power structures.
Ghandi's philosophy is ultimately one of self annihilation and avoidance of responsibility:
"There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."
The only way for a Ghandist to survive is to assume that someone else will fight his battles - that person being someone who rejects Ghandism.
Note the parallels with what you believe. You despise those who are self-motivated to produce, yet you would not be able to exist without their productivity. That's why you hate Rand. She outed people like you.
Randian hero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As a conception of the ideal man, the Randian hero has much in common with Aristotle's conception of agathos, in that both are morally heroic and heroically rational.[1] The philosophers share a similar naturalist/objectivist meta-ethical perspective emphasizing character as the primary determinant of moral worth, and possess a fundamentally heroic attitude towards life.[1][3] The Randian hero exemplifies ethical egoism, the normative ethical position that the self-interest of the individual ought to be the basis for moral action.[1] The specific virtues of the Randian hero, like the Aristotelian ideal, are created from rationality, the primary virtue; rationality is the hero's basic tool of survival, to be exercised at all times.[4] The primary value, the "highest moral purpose", is happiness (cf. eudaimonia).[4] Rand frequently declared her motive and purpose in writing to be "the projection of an ideal man";[2] all of her protagonists are heroes
What part of the word "fiction" escapes you?
Worst immitation of Ellsworth Toohey I've ever seen. Oh wait... that was your Gail Wynand?See those guys yessterday defending ripping off their customers?
Those are the Heros Ayn Rand tried to convince you were Gods.
Hows that Randy Heroy thing working out for you?
Worst immitation of Ellsworth Toohey I've ever seen. Oh wait... that was your Gail Wynand?See those guys yessterday defending ripping off their customers?
Those are the Heros Ayn Rand tried to convince you were Gods.
Hows that Randy Heroy thing working out for you?
pfftt>snort<hehhehheh
oooookie dokie!
I am self motivated to produce you fucking idiot and own three houses all gained without thinking I had to be a selfish whore.
You would not exsist if it were not for the SELF SACRAFICE of millions of people who did it proudly to protect the ones they loved and even people they would never know.
visit a vets grave some time.
I am self motivated to produce you fucking idiot and own three houses all gained without thinking I had to be a selfish whore.
You would not exsist if it were not for the SELF SACRAFICE of millions of people who did it proudly to protect the ones they loved and even people they would never know.
visit a vets grave some time.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that people who frequently accuse others of being bitches and whores are they themselves both.
[sarcasm]Why do you own three houses? Isn't it SELFISH? Why don't you give them to the homeless?[/sarcasm]
Vets who serve do so for a higher purpose. You clearly do not understand what a Hierarchy of Values is. A vet who serves his country places a High Value on that country. He is willing to risk his life because he places more value on what his country means to his value system.ROTFL a higher purpose that Rand finds evil you fool.
Let's look at what the meaning of Sacrifice is: to give up something one values more in service to something one values less. If one gives up for something of lower value for a higher value, then it is not really a sacrifice. It is actually paying a price to serve a higher value. Its sacrafice for others and pretending its not is why this little randian thing is such a bust
Your use of the word Sacrifice is very misguided and misleading.
Why anyone should encourage destroying something of Higher Value in exchange for a Lesser Value is something you should ponder.
For every village, there is an idiot.TM doesn't know WTF she is talking about on any subject; why should this one be any different?
YouTube - Ayn Rand Mike Wallace Interview 1959 part 1
She says its evil to sacrafice yourself for your fellow man.
Right out of her own mouth..
You and rand hate self sacrafice remember.
Never feed a starving child if it means you willl go hungry.
Never fight to protect other human beings if you can die doing it.
You and rand hate self sacrafice remember.
Never feed a starving child if it means you willl go hungry.
Never fight to protect other human beings if you can die doing it.
I already explained your fallacy regarding sacrifice.
Giving food to a hungry child is not a sacrifice in my value system. It's the decent thing to do consistent with my hierarchy of values. I have compassion for the child; not the contempt you display if you think it's a sacrifice to help him.
I act in a way that is consistent with my beliefs.
Why do you hate the poor starving child?
sacrifice definition - Dictionary - MSN Encarta
She does not get to redefine words to make her little ideas seem like they make sense
if you had read carefully in Atlas Shrugged. She points out that charity taken from others by force is not charity, it is theft and the reception of stolen goods. Those forced to work at the benefit of others with no fair compensation is slavery.You and rand hate self sacrafice remember.
Never feed a starving child if it means you willl go hungry.
Never fight to protect other human beings if you can die doing it.
I already explained your fallacy regarding sacrifice.
Giving food to a hungry child is not a sacrifice in my value system. It's the decent thing to do consistent with my hierarchy of values. I have compassion for the child; not the contempt you display if you think it's a sacrifice to help him.
So when you do it its noble and when I do it its evil.
You are one fucking twisted idiot.
Listen to your hero on the tape and realise what she is really offering
