Rachel Corrie death trial, day 1

[al Haq]

 

[AllieBaba]

Yes, let's all slide under bulldozers because of our own idiocy.

 

[Winston Smith]

As Sorry as I am for Corrie's death, i cannot, help but wonder: She knew she was going into a warzone and putting her own life at risk. I'm sorry for what happened, but Corrie's death was her own doing and her parents have no one to blame for it than Rachel herself, though i don't blame them for what they're doing, i cannot even begin to grasp how one handles the death of one's own child.

And a side note - ISM is no more peace organization than Hamas is. It is a known extreme left organization with the purpose of ending israel as a jewish state and has in the past justified terror attacks its members have taken active part in covering for the british terrorists that did the terror attack at the pub "Mike's Place" in Tel-Aviv.

 

[xsited1]

A British witness told a court today about how he had watched an Israeli military bulldozer run over and kill the American activist Rachel Corrie while she was trying to stop Palestinians' homes being demolished in Gaza.

Richard Purssell, who was also a volunteer activist in Rafah at the time, seven years ago, described the "shocking and dramatic event" in an Israeli court in Haifa on the first day of a civil suit brought by Corrie's family against the Israeli state.

British activist saw Rachel Corrie die under Israeli bulldozer, court hears | World news | guardian.co.uk

Bulldozer: 1
Rachel Corrie: 0

 

[Baruch Menachem]

She knew what those tunnels were for, and what was coming through them.

She was complicit in the murders of hundreds.

I agree it was an accident, but it also falls under the rubric of karmic justice. Not that Jews approve of the concept, but that is what she got.

 

[JenyEliza]

A British witness told a court today about how he had watched an Israeli military bulldozer run over and kill the American activist Rachel Corrie while she was trying to stop Palestinians' homes being demolished in Gaza.

Richard Purssell, who was also a volunteer activist in Rafah at the time, seven years ago, described the "shocking and dramatic event" in an Israeli court in Haifa on the first day of a civil suit brought by Corrie's family against the Israeli state.

British activist saw Rachel Corrie die under Israeli bulldozer, court hears | World news | guardian.co.uk

The lesson to be drawn from Rachel Corrie is this:

Don't stand in front of and challenge moving bulldozers and you will not be run over.

What a dumbass.....a definite Darwin award winner she was.

 

[Anguille]

"On the day of her death, 16 March 2003, Corrie was with seven other activists, including Purssell, in Rafah, close to the Israeli-guarded border with Egypt. They saw an Israeli military armoured Caterpillar D9 bulldozer approaching the house of a Palestinian doctor.Purssell described how the bulldozer approached at a fast walking pace, its blade down and gathering a pile of soil in its path. When the bulldozer was 20 metres from the house Corrie, who like the others was wearing an orange fluorescent jacket, climbed on to the soil in front of it and stood "looking into the cab of the bulldozer".
"The bulldozer continued to move forward," Purssell said. "Rachel turned to come back down the slope. The earth is still moving and as she nears the bottom of the pile something happened which causes her to fall forward. The bulldozer continued to move forward and Rachel disappeared from view under the moving earth."
The bulldozer continued forward four metres as the activists began to run forward and shout at the driver.
"It passed the point where Rachel fell, it stopped and reversed back along the track it first made. Rachel was lying on the earth," Purssell said. "She was still breathing." Corrie was severely injured and died shortly afterwards.
The Israeli military says it bears no responsibility for Corrie's death. A month after her death the military said an investigation had determined its troops were not to blame; the driver of the bulldozer had not seen her and had not intentionally run her over. It accused Corrie and the ISM of behaviour that was "illegal, irresponsible and dangerous".
Hussein will argue at the Haifa district court that witness evidence shows that the soldiers did see Corrie at the scene, with other activists well before the incident, and that they could have arrested her or removed her from the area before there was any risk of injury."


If it happened as this witness describes it, it seems to me that the bulldozer operator intentionally ran her over, or at the very least was not properly trained and didn't know he need to stop even though she was retreating.
The lawyer is right, they should have had her arrested and removed from danger as soon as she came between the dozer and the home she was trying to protect.

 

[Anguille]

This woman did not deserve to die, no matter how reckless she may have been.

 

[AllieBaba]

Do you think in a different language?

She moved, then FELL UNDER THE BULLDOZER.

Doesn't sound intentional to me at all.

But then, one of the first things my parents taught me was STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MOVING MACHINERY.

 

[Ragnar]

On Edit:

On second thought a YT video from Douglas Adams Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is in poor taste here.

Self delete...

 

[Anguille]

Do you think in a different language?

She moved, then FELL UNDER THE BULLDOZER.

Doesn't sound intentional to me at all.

But then, one of the first things my parents taught me was STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MOVING MACHINERY.

She was 20 meters in front of the dozer wearing a fluorescent orange jacket. How could the driver claim to have not seen her? Why did the driver continue to move towards her?

 

[Shogun]

Absolutely not.
But if you do something really stupid, it can happen.

As I said, Corrie's death was an accident and a result of her own supremely stupid and careless action. It doesn't sound to me like she was trying to get killed, but if she wasn't trying to get killed, probably she shouldn't have been climbing on top of a mound when there was a bulldozer nearby.

the shit you'd rationalize for the sake of your personal salvation is three shades of laughable. If corey were a christian fighting against ANYTHING and she were bulldozed we'd see your kind holding pictures of her at every rally you could afford to attend. But, since she dared to speak out against the chosen...




jesus is proud of you, baba. seriously.

That is just so much crap.

If she were a Christian and jumped on a pile of slag when a bulldozer was working nearby, I'd still call her an idiot and say it was an accident.

It was a flipping accident. Get over it.

yea...


hey, baba... it's a good thing ole jebus didn't hop out of the way too, eh?

 

[Shogun]

Yes, let's all slide under bulldozers because of our own idiocy.

you are a wonderful example, baba. jebus just winked at you from the cross!

 

[Shogun]

As Sorry as I am for Corrie's death, i cannot, help but wonder: She knew she was going into a warzone and putting her own life at risk. I'm sorry for what happened, but Corrie's death was her own doing and her parents have no one to blame for it than Rachel herself, though i don't blame them for what they're doing, i cannot even begin to grasp how one handles the death of one's own child.

And a side note - ISM is no more peace organization than Hamas is. It is a known extreme left organization with the purpose of ending israel as a jewish state and has in the past justified terror attacks its members have taken active part in covering for the british terrorists that did the terror attack at the pub "Mike's Place" in Tel-Aviv.

by that same standard I guess you'll agree that Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman "put their own lives at risk", eh?


shock this monkey and insist that their disappearance and death is different somehow.

 

[Shogun]

Do you think in a different language?

She moved, then FELL UNDER THE BULLDOZER.

Doesn't sound intentional to me at all.

But then, one of the first things my parents taught me was STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MOVING MACHINERY.

I'm quite sure your salvation depends on answers like that.

 

[Winston Smith]

Do you think in a different language?

She moved, then FELL UNDER THE BULLDOZER.

Doesn't sound intentional to me at all.

But then, one of the first things my parents taught me was STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MOVING MACHINERY.

She was 20 meters in front of the dozer wearing a fluorescent orange jacket. How could the driver claim to have not seen her? Why did the driver continue to move towards her?

the question i would be asking would be "she saw a massive dozer coming her war, why didn't she get the hell out of the way?

how could he not have seen her? very possible. i'm assuming the dozer is an armoured D9, which looks like this:

as you can see, the view from the driver's seat is not optimal, which would be another reason for the "get the hell out of the way" tactic...

 

[al Haq]

 

[Anguille]

Do you think in a different language?

She moved, then FELL UNDER THE BULLDOZER.

Doesn't sound intentional to me at all.

But then, one of the first things my parents taught me was STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MOVING MACHINERY.

She was 20 meters in front of the dozer wearing a fluorescent orange jacket. How could the driver claim to have not seen her? Why did the driver continue to move towards her?

the question i would be asking would be "she saw a massive dozer coming her war, why didn't she get the hell out of the way?

how could he not have seen her? very possible. i'm assuming the dozer is an armoured D9, which looks like this:

as you can see, the view from the driver's seat is not optimal, which would be another reason for the "get the hell out of the way" tactic...

The witness says she was looking into the cab. If she could see the driver, the driver could see her.

But supposing that there really is a blind spot and the driver couldn't see her, then the military should have had someone posted who could see and who directed the driver. Afterall, the driver could have just as easily run over another worker, if his line of vision was obstructed.

I think either the driver intentionally ran the protester over or he/she was trying to give her a scare and thought she would get out of the way at the last minute. What the driver may not have considered is that the moving soil could cause her to fall as she was getting out of the way. In this scenario the driver is still responsible because it was extremely reckless of the driver to try to bluff her.

She was trying to get out of the way but slipped. Regardless, she did not deserve to be run over.

 

[xsited1]

 

[strollingbones]

the only thing she did stupid was expect humanity from the state of israel