Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) honored By US Supreme Court

[Avatar4321]

The Qur'an has mistakes which cannot be explained. Care to adress that?

There is nothing to address; because the Qur'an does not contain any mistakes.

Oh, so it says that Jesus Christ is the Son of God now?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Besides the fact that there is No copy of the New Testament known to have ever existed in it's original language.

The Bible is so full of revisions, contradictions, and omissions.

That anyone with an ounce of sense can see the Bible has been totally changed and corrupted over the years.

And since the Quran was compiled years after Mohammads death because there were variant texts going around decieving the people, we can conclude that we have no clue what the original quran looked like or how much it's been corrupted as well.

No. They had all the verses at his death with Uthman ibn Affan who was the third Muslim convert and one of Muhamamds best friends who would never deceive anybody. Muhammad stressed so much that this holy book will never be changed. Muslims believed that. The Koran was memorized by millions and if any change was noticed the Muslims would have noticed it and demanded an investigation. It was passed by memorization. Any Muslims stressed this so seriously, this was a big part of Islam to keep it original

 

[Avatar4321]

Besides the fact that there is No copy of the New Testament known to have ever existed in it's original language.

The Bible is so full of revisions, contradictions, and omissions.

That anyone with an ounce of sense can see the Bible has been totally changed and corrupted over the years.

And since the Quran was compiled years after Mohammads death because there were variant texts going around decieving the people, we can conclude that we have no clue what the original quran looked like or how much it's been corrupted as well.

No. They had all the verses at his death with Uthman ibn Affan who was the third Muslim convert and one of Muhamamds best friends who would never deceive anybody. Muhammad stressed so much that this holy book will never be changed. Muslims believed that. The Koran was memorized by millions and if any change was noticed the Muslims would have noticed it and demanded an investigation. It was passed by memorization. Any Muslims stressed this so seriously, this was a big part of Islam to keep it original

They believe it. History doesnt prove it out. In fact, history shows that it was compiled specifically so they could squelsh what they termed false revelations.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

And since the Quran was compiled years after Mohammads death because there were variant texts going around decieving the people, we can conclude that we have no clue what the original quran looked like or how much it's been corrupted as well.

No. They had all the verses at his death with Uthman ibn Affan who was the third Muslim convert and one of Muhamamds best friends who would never deceive anybody. Muhammad stressed so much that this holy book will never be changed. Muslims believed that. The Koran was memorized by millions and if any change was noticed the Muslims would have noticed it and demanded an investigation. It was passed by memorization. Any Muslims stressed this so seriously, this was a big part of Islam to keep it original

They believe it. History doesnt prove it out. In fact, history shows that it was compiled specifically so they could squelsh what they termed false revelations.

No it doesn't at all. The Muslims themselves in Saudi Arabia are more credible than "historian" . I never heard that before. The Koran wasn't changed. The mainstream one isn't changed. We all have the same views on most things. Christian texts, modern ones say different things in regards to specific events such as Genesis 1 or Genesis 2, they have differences some people will say is a significant difference

 

[Sunni Man]

The Qur'an has mistakes which cannot be explained. Care to adress that?

There is nothing to address; because the Qur'an does not contain any mistakes.

Oh, so it says that Jesus Christ is the Son of God now?

God has No son and Never had a son.

 

[Hollie]

The Qur'an has mistakes which cannot be explained. Care to adress that?

There is nothing to address; because the Qur'an does not contain any mistakes.

Actually, the Koran contains many errors and mis-statements, especially in connection with the natural world.

 

[Sunni Man]

And now Hollie the transgendered troll shows up to spout "It's" nonsense.

 

[Hollie]

No. They had all the verses at his death with Uthman ibn Affan who was the third Muslim convert and one of Muhamamds best friends who would never deceive anybody. Muhammad stressed so much that this holy book will never be changed. Muslims believed that. The Koran was memorized by millions and if any change was noticed the Muslims would have noticed it and demanded an investigation. It was passed by memorization. Any Muslims stressed this so seriously, this was a big part of Islam to keep it original

They believe it. History doesnt prove it out. In fact, history shows that it was compiled specifically so they could squelsh what they termed false revelations.

No it doesn't at all. The Muslims themselves in Saudi Arabia are more credible than "historian" . I never heard that before. The Koran wasn't changed. The mainstream one isn't changed. We all have the same views on most things. Christian texts, modern ones say different things in regards to specific events such as Genesis 1 or Genesis 2, they have differences some people will say is a significant difference

It seems you need some lessons in history so you can come to an understanding of the false assumptions you have.

Let's understand that the lineage of the Koran is irreparably broken in three places. Those places are:

1. The 'Uthmanic'' rescension.
2. The Compilation under Abu Bakr.
3. The chain of transmittal prior to Muhammad.

For those of us who have made an effort to understand the compilation and standardization on the mushaf of 'Uthman, such self reference is more prosaically explained by the late date of this version.

The fact remains that "Qur'an" means "recitation," not book. It did not become a book until years after Muhammad's death.

Without going into too much detail, rather than "numerous" sahabahs with perfect recollections of the Koran, there is compelling evidence that these earliest sahabahs had different and differentially complete memories. How else is one to make sense of the ahadith (repeated in one form or another at least seven times) concerning the last verse being found in the memory of only a single man; Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari? Doesn't that require the understanding that every other sahabah had an incomplete memory?

How does one further account for the conflicts among those sahabahs that required the Uthmanic rescension?

In fact, how does one account for Uthman's rescension at all?

It is pretty clear that the "perfect preservation" of the Koran did not commence until after the rescension. And even then, we could get into a wonderful discussion of the multiple readings, but why bother. The point is made. Second, giving the fact we have a historical record of the event during which the Koran was standardized and competing versions burned, the maintenance of a standard since that time hardly qualifies as suggesting that Mohammed would have even recognized the writings. The completely human engine for that standard is evident and obvious. We have in our possession, at best, the musshaf of Uthman. We really do not know what the musshaf of Muhammad contained, and how different the two might be.

 

[Hollie]

And now Hollie the transgendered troll shows up to spout "It's" nonsense.

And of course Sunni boy, the gender confused wannabe convert sits dumbfounded and sputtering without the ability to defend the claims made by muhammud (swish).

 

[Hollie]

There is nothing to address; because the Qur'an does not contain any mistakes.

Oh, so it says that Jesus Christ is the Son of God now?

God has No son and Never had a son.

That would be the position taken by muhammud (swat), as he stole ruthlessly from christianity in the formation of the religion he invented.

 

[Sunni Man]

3. The chain of transmittal prior to Muhammad.

LOL, what complete nonsense.

Since Muhammad pbuh was the first person to receive the revelation of the Qur'an.

How could there have been a "prior chain of transmittal"?

 

[Hollie]

Thank you for demonstrating that you have been lying about Yeshua being your prophet too.

Yes, Jesus is a great Prophet in Islam.

But we do not believe in the false stories told in the corrupted christian Bible about Jesus. (which was the Jesus I was referring to)

Muslims only believe in the true Jesus as presented and written in the Quran.

Jesus was a prophet in islamism because muhammud (swat), cobbled together an invented politico-religious ideology stolen largely from the true Abrahamic religions that preceded the invention of islamism. The are also elements of Arab paganism evident in islamism. The devout pebble chuckers hurling stone at the god- rock is one of those pagan traditions.

 

[Two Thumbs]

PBUH?

Peanut Butter un Humus?

Peanut butter uncook hog?

Please be UnHumane?

 

[Hollie]

3. The chain of transmittal prior to Muhammad.

LOL, what complete nonsense.

Since Muhammad pbuh was the first person to receive the revelation of the Qur'an.

How could there have been a "prior chain of transmittal"?

How silly. Muhammud (swish) was not the first person to have claimed to hear voices talking to them. For that matter, Mo (swish), only claimed to have heard second person accounts of voices from the gods.

 

[Sunni Man]

PBUH?

Peanut Butter un Humus?

Peanut butter uncook hog?

Please be UnHumane?

Your close.......but keep trying..........

 

[Sunni Man]

How silly. Muhammud (swish) was not the first person to have claimed to hear voices talking to them.

So how long have you been hearing voices in your head?

And what do they tell you to do??

 

[Hollie]

3. The chain of transmittal prior to Muhammad.

LOL, what complete nonsense.

Since Muhammad pbuh was the first person to receive the revelation of the Qur'an.

How could there have been a "prior chain of transmittal"?

There was a prior chain of transmission because muhammud (swish) didn't author the Koran. For that matter, muhammud (swish) never had editing rights to the book of tales and fables written by uthman - the eventual author of the Koran.

It seems you know next to nothing regarding the pseudo-religion you converted to.

 

[Hollie]

How silly. Muhammud (swish) was not the first person to have claimed to hear voices talking to them.

So how long have you been hearing voices in your head?

And what do they tell you to do??

I'll take this to mean that your inability to defend any of your claims has left you stuttering and mumbling.

 

[Sunni Man]

How silly. Muhammud (swish) was not the first person to have claimed to hear voices talking to them.

So how long have you been hearing voices in your head?

And what do they tell you to do??

I'll take this to mean that your inability to defend any of your claims has left you stuttering and mumbling.

Serious question: Which anti-psychotic medication do they currently have you on?

 

[Hollie]

So how long have you been hearing voices in your head?

And what do they tell you to do??

I'll take this to mean that your inability to defend any of your claims has left you stuttering and mumbling.

Serious question: Which anti-psychotic medication do they currently have you on?

Spamming is not going to shield your inability to post a relevant comment.

How do you defend the third-person accounts of what is written about the voices Mo (swat) claimed to have heard?

According to the koranology we have, Mo (swish) claims that the gods spoke to Gabriel, who spoke to Mo (swish), who related those stories to others, only some of which eventually made it into a book written by uthman.

We also have credible evidence that a goat ate part of what was to be included in uthman's koran