President's Day

[xotoxi]

In NY that makes 12.

Still not excessive.

you don't pay people the 12 days salary for not working do you?

You sound like a dickens charcter.

 

[Skull Pilot]

In NY that makes 12.

Still not excessive.

you don't pay people the 12 days salary for not working do you?

You sound like a dickens charcter.

You mean the one who values hard work and thrift? The one who expects no less from others that he himself does? The one who believes one should secure their own future and not as others to do it for them?

That guy.

Sounds like he's got his shit together to me.

 

[Xenophon]

you don't pay people the 12 days salary for not working do you?

You sound like a dickens charcter.

You mean the one who values hard work and thrift? The one who expects no less from others that he himself does? The one who believes one should secure their own future and not as others to do it for them?

That guy.

Sounds like he's got his shit together to me.

No, I was referring to Scrooge, the man so cheap he turned his back on his fellow man for no reason.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do you?

I pay people holiday pay. Do you?

I don't pay people.

Why do you pay them holiday pay?

And why do you complain about it?

People who do not employ others have no idea of the cost.
And I pay holiday pay because I must in order to attract good applicants.

I can't help it if people want to get paid for not working, it's the norm in this country so I must comply to stay in business.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You sound like a dickens charcter.

You mean the one who values hard work and thrift? The one who expects no less from others that he himself does? The one who believes one should secure their own future and not as others to do it for them?

That guy.

Sounds like he's got his shit together to me.

No, I was referring to Scrooge, the man so cheap he turned his back on his fellow man for no reason.

Show me where i have turned my back on anyone.

One can be frugal and thrifty without being uncaring.

 

[Xenophon]

You mean the one who values hard work and thrift? The one who expects no less from others that he himself does? The one who believes one should secure their own future and not as others to do it for them?

That guy.

Sounds like he's got his shit together to me.

No, I was referring to Scrooge, the man so cheap he turned his back on his fellow man for no reason.

Show me where i have turned my back on anyone.

One can be frugal and thrifty without being uncaring.

You appear to be jumping to conclusions and are extremly defensive.

Take a deep breathe and start over.

Begin with the mental health of people who work to hard and don't have enough down time.

 

[xotoxi]

I pay people holiday pay. Do you?

I don't pay people.

Why do you pay them holiday pay?

And why do you complain about it?

People who do not employ others have no idea of the cost.
And I pay holiday pay because I must in order to attract good applicants.

I can't help it if people want to get paid for not working, it's the norm in this country so I must comply to stay in business.

Essentially, you pay people holiday pay because that is what the market demands, correct?

 

[Skull Pilot]

No, I was referring to Scrooge, the man so cheap he turned his back on his fellow man for no reason.

Show me where i have turned my back on anyone.

One can be frugal and thrifty without being uncaring.

You appear to be jumping to conclusions and are extremly defensive.

Take a deep breathe and start over.

Begin with the mental health of people who work to hard and don't have enough down time.

Please.

No one in my employ ever works more than 37 hours a week. I schedule them for a little less than 40 hours to compensate for the occasional late day as I do not want to pay overtime but i have made it abundantly clear that anyone who wants to can come in a little early or stay a little late to get their 40 hours and guess what? Not one of them ever does.

I can't count how many times people come into work then stand around waiting for the coffee to brew or how many times I have caught the receptionist doing those fucking sudoku or word jumble puzzles.

And these same people drive newer cars than I do, get a new cell phone every 6 months, take more expensive vacations than I do, and then complain that they never have any money.

yeah not enough down time. My ass.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I don't pay people.

Why do you pay them holiday pay?

And why do you complain about it?

People who do not employ others have no idea of the cost.
And I pay holiday pay because I must in order to attract good applicants.

I can't help it if people want to get paid for not working, it's the norm in this country so I must comply to stay in business.

Essentially, you pay people holiday pay because that is what the market demands, correct?

Duh.

 

[Xenophon]

Show me where i have turned my back on anyone.

One can be frugal and thrifty without being uncaring.

You appear to be jumping to conclusions and are extremly defensive.

Take a deep breathe and start over.

Begin with the mental health of people who work to hard and don't have enough down time.

Please.

No one in my employ ever works more than 37 hours a week. I schedule them for a little less than 40 hours to compensate for the occasional late day as I do not want to pay overtime but i have made it abundantly clear that anyone who wants to can come in a little early or stay a little late to get their 40 hours and guess what? Not one of them ever does.

I can't count how many times people come into work then stand around waiting for the coffee to brew or how many times I have caught the receptionist doing those fucking sudoku or word jumble puzzles.

And these same people drive newer cars than I do, get a new cell phone every 6 months, take more expensive vacations than I do, and then complain that they never have any money.

yeah not enough down time. My ass.

Maybe they should be posting on the net, following your exemplary example!

And I'm not trying to insult you, lighten up, 12 days of holidays is no big deal.

 

[xotoxi]

People who do not employ others have no idea of the cost.
And I pay holiday pay because I must in order to attract good applicants.

I can't help it if people want to get paid for not working, it's the norm in this country so I must comply to stay in business.

Essentially, you pay people holiday pay because that is what the market demands, correct?

Duh.

And you are complaining about it.

You are complaining about Capitalism.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You appear to be jumping to conclusions and are extremly defensive.

Take a deep breathe and start over.

Begin with the mental health of people who work to hard and don't have enough down time.

Please.

No one in my employ ever works more than 37 hours a week. I schedule them for a little less than 40 hours to compensate for the occasional late day as I do not want to pay overtime but i have made it abundantly clear that anyone who wants to can come in a little early or stay a little late to get their 40 hours and guess what? Not one of them ever does.

I can't count how many times people come into work then stand around waiting for the coffee to brew or how many times I have caught the receptionist doing those fucking sudoku or word jumble puzzles.

And these same people drive newer cars than I do, get a new cell phone every 6 months, take more expensive vacations than I do, and then complain that they never have any money.

yeah not enough down time. My ass.

Maybe they should be posting on the net, following your exemplary example!

And I'm not trying to insult you, lighten up, 12 days of holidays is no big deal.

I've been up doing paperwork since 5 30 this morning. Since I am the owner I am not confined to a specific block of hours in which to do my work.

Last week I put in 70 hours and I'd like to see my employees work half as hard as my wife and I do.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Essentially, you pay people holiday pay because that is what the market demands, correct?

Duh.

And you are complaining about it.

You are complaining about Capitalism.

Yeah right I, the guy who started his first business at 20, hate capitalism.

What I am complaining about is people wanting to get paid for doing nothing.

 

[Xenophon]

Please.

No one in my employ ever works more than 37 hours a week. I schedule them for a little less than 40 hours to compensate for the occasional late day as I do not want to pay overtime but i have made it abundantly clear that anyone who wants to can come in a little early or stay a little late to get their 40 hours and guess what? Not one of them ever does.

I can't count how many times people come into work then stand around waiting for the coffee to brew or how many times I have caught the receptionist doing those fucking sudoku or word jumble puzzles.

And these same people drive newer cars than I do, get a new cell phone every 6 months, take more expensive vacations than I do, and then complain that they never have any money.

yeah not enough down time. My ass.

Maybe they should be posting on the net, following your exemplary example!

And I'm not trying to insult you, lighten up, 12 days of holidays is no big deal.

I've been up doing paperwork since 5 30 this morning. Since I am the owner I am not confined to a specific block of hours in which to do my work.

Last week I put in 70 hours and I'd like to see my employees work half as hard as my wife and I do.

There is nothing wrong with hard work, but on the other hand people can't be working all the time.

You do it because its your business, they can't and don't have the same investment in it.

 

[xotoxi]

Duh.

And you are complaining about it.

You are complaining about Capitalism.

Yeah right I, the guy who started his first business at 20, hate capitalism.

What I am complaining about is people wanting to get paid for doing nothing.

Don't you see! You are perpetuating the problem by paying your employees for doing nothing!!!

TAKE A STAND!!! Send a memo around work tomorrow and let them know that Holiday pay has retroactively been rescinded.

I'm sure you'll find new employees pretty easily.

 

[xotoxi]

Last week I put in 70 hours and I'd like to see my employees work half as hard as my wife and I do.

And I'm sure your employees would love to get paid half as much as you do.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Maybe they should be posting on the net, following your exemplary example!

And I'm not trying to insult you, lighten up, 12 days of holidays is no big deal.

I've been up doing paperwork since 5 30 this morning. Since I am the owner I am not confined to a specific block of hours in which to do my work.

Last week I put in 70 hours and I'd like to see my employees work half as hard as my wife and I do.

There is nothing wrong with hard work, but on the other hand people can't be working all the time.

You do it because its your business, they can't and don't have the same investment in it.

Here's the rub. They benefit if the business does better. The business does better if they are more diligent.

We've tried to give incentives to promote certain new services and offered to start some sort of bonus plan if we beat last years month to month numbers. You know what I got from the staff?

"Oh that's too much pressure"
"I don't want to feel like a salesman"

Fucking ridiculous. They don't get it that if the business they work for does better, that they will do better.

And before you say it, yes I am always looking for new people but as they say good help is hard, very hard, to find.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Last week I put in 70 hours and I'd like to see my employees work half as hard as my wife and I do.

And I'm sure your employees would love to get paid half as much as you do.

I actually have two people on staff that get paid more than I do.

 

[xotoxi]

"Oh that's too much pressure"
"I don't want to feel like a salesman"

You should have fired those people on the spot.

And then looked around the room and told them that the bonuses were mandatory, and if they did not earn them, they'd be fired too.

 

[Skull Pilot]

"Oh that's too much pressure"
"I don't want to feel like a salesman"

You should have fired those people on the spot.

And then looked around the room and told them that the bonuses were mandatory, and if they did not earn them, they'd be fired too.

Yeah right.

No matter how good that might sound or how satisfying that might be, it doesn't work.