Planned Parenthood: False Allegations and the Clown Car

I pay my taxes just like you do.

Filing a tax form with zero do isn't "pay(ing) taxes"

What is zero do? Did you mean zero due? Funny when people try too hard to make themselves look smarter than they actually are.
Conservatives think intelligence and proper spelling and grammar are for suckers and "loosers".
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Wow, working conservative into every post, now that's pure desperation. And yes, they are for losers, which is why you noodnicks are obsessed with it
Wow. Intelligence is for losers. The credo of the extreme Right-Wing.
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Yes, that's why you you are a Republican, you are a loser
 
Good news is Bobby Jindal terminating their contract with Medicaid. Progress. Plus two democrats crossing the isle.

It will come up again in about 30 days.
If the video scam does not work today why will the scam work in 30 days..in thirty days we will know a lot more about the delinquents behind the videos ....

Hopefully more states will end their Medicaid contracts with PP as well.

I really wonder who or what made you into the person you are. Hoping that tens of thousands or more Americans will lose their health insurance is evil. There is no other word quite so apt to describe you.

How exactly would they lose their health insurance?

I misread your post, mea culpa, I wlll withdraw my judgement for now.

So you say mea culpa then are snotty, you don't know what mea culpa means
 
If the video scam does not work today why will the scam work in 30 days..in thirty days we will know a lot more about the delinquents behind the videos ....

Hopefully more states will end their Medicaid contracts with PP as well.

I really wonder who or what made you into the person you are. Hoping that tens of thousands or more Americans will lose their health insurance is evil. There is no other word quite so apt to describe you.

How exactly would they lose their health insurance?

I misread your post, mea culpa, I wlll withdraw my judgement for now.

So you say mea culpa then are snotty, you don't know what mea culpa means

I know you've proven to be an asshole.
 
Hopefully more states will end their Medicaid contracts with PP as well.

I really wonder who or what made you into the person you are. Hoping that tens of thousands or more Americans will lose their health insurance is evil. There is no other word quite so apt to describe you.

How exactly would they lose their health insurance?

I misread your post, mea culpa, I wlll withdraw my judgement for now.

So you say mea culpa then are snotty, you don't know what mea culpa means

I know you've proven to be an asshole.

You just got caught being the asshole, Holmes
 
I'm so upset that this is all a big to do about nothing because I was really hoping to buy a cute little baby brain for my mantle display.
 
The fact that planned parenthood exists is sad. The fact that so many of you blindly sacrifice your children to it is a tragedy.

We need to become a better nation again.
 
You don't even know what that is, Wry. Stop trying to sound smart. You aren't. Answer the question.

Probably the better fallacy is this:

Appeal to a Lack of Evidence(Argumentum Ad Ignorantium, literally "Argument from Ignorance"): Appealing to a lack of information to prove a point, or arguing that, since the opposition cannot disprove a claim, the opposite stance must be true. An example of such an argument is the assertion that ghosts must exist because no one has been able to prove that they do not exist. Logicians know this is a logical fallacy because no competing argument has yet revealed itself.

Complex Question (Also called the "Loaded Question"): Phrasing a question or statement in such as way as to imply another unproven statement is true without evidence or discussion.

Mea culpa, I took logic my sophomore year at CAL, 1966. In the future I will check my statements for accuracy.



Citing logical fallacies in lieu of an actual position is simple deflection. You are appealing to lack of evidence by having NO evidence.

It's not my job to prove the statement of others. I've made my positions very clear.

1. Libertarians are ideologues and stuck in a box of ideas, with no concept of how they might work in a nation the size of the US. Their platform completely rejects pragmatic solutions which conflict with their dogma.

2. Republicans have made avarice into a virtue, when once it was a deadly sin. They have rejected the principle of a social contract and cherry pick ideas from the Enlightenment to suit their personal needs.

3. CU has put the last nail into the coffin of our once democratic republic, we have made the transition to an Oligrachy of the Rich and Powerful an appears to me to be a 21st Century version of fascism.

4. The Great Threat to Capitalism isn't Communism or Socialism - it is the greed of the capitalists and the power elite. They should have learned from OWS.

5. Education is the cure for a nation's malaise, and can mitigate most of its ills.

6. Government creates jobs, as does the private sector.

7. Jobs will cure many of the nation's ills.

8. Wedge issues and "ain't it awful" dominate the right wing rhetoric

9. The War on Drugs is a failure

Want more, read my posts, they have been consistent since I joined this message board.

You aren't even addressing the topic of the thread anymore, you're just rambling on, just to read your own words and sound like the Einstein you're not. And you are about as consistent as Scott Norwood was at kicking field goals in the Super Bowl.

And if you want, create another thread, let us critique your views. But not here.

You too are a jerk. Posting a personal attack is what, being substantive. And yeah, I did by calling you a jerk, a spot on truth based on your flawed character.

This thread is about a lie, one more Great BIG LIE that is the Bread and Butter of the right wing.

And this pretty much does it. This thread IS a lie, thus the Bread and Butter of you, and ultimately, the left wing.
 
From Factcheck.org

"The full video shows that after Nucatola mentions the $30 to $100, she describes how those amounts would be reimbursement for expenses related to handling and transportation of the tissues."

"In a statement made to CNN, another presidential candidate, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, called the practice discussed in the video a “clear violation of federal law.” The “sale” of organs, both adult and fetal, for transplantation is indeed illegal, but donation of tissue — both from aborted fetuses and from adults — is not. And payment for “reasonable” costs is also allowed under the law.

"Sawyer, July 20: In reality, $30-100 probably constitutes a loss for [Planned Parenthood]. The costs associated with collection, processing, storage, and inventory and records management for specimens are very high. Most hospitals will provide tissue blocks from surgical procedures (ones no longer needed for clinical purposes, and without identity) for research, and cost recover for their time and effort in the range of $100-500 per case/block. In the realm of tissues for research $30-100 is completely reasonable and normal fee"

"Rick Perry, July 14: The video showing a Planned Parenthood employee selling the body parts of aborted children is a disturbing reminder of the organization’s penchant for profiting off the tragedy of a destroyed human life."

"Rand Paul, July 14: … a video showing [Planned Parenthood]’s top doctor describing how she performs late-term abortions to sell body parts for profit!"

"Carly Fiorina, July 14: This latest news is tragic and outrageous. This isn’t about “choice.” It’s about profiting on the death of the unborn while telling women it’s about empowerment."

Unspinning the Planned Parenthood Video

Buyer: “How confident are you with your attorneys’ work that you’ve seen, they are building many layers and making it difficult—”

Dr. Ginde: “We’ve got it figured out, that he knows that—because we talked to him in the beginning, we were like, we don’t want to get called on, you know, selling fetal parts across states.”

Buyer: “Mhm. Neither do we.”

Dr. Ginde: You know what I mean? No one wants to get—”
-- Planned Parenthood Baby Body Parts Video Was That Crack the Little Bits of the Skull -- Here s the Heart

One data point suggests one criminal, do you find that probative of PP's culpability?

It is much more than one data point. And it absolutely is probative of the culpability of PP.

Did you know that what is "probative" is not the same thing (at least not in all cases) as proof positive?

So as long as we are being treated to the "explanations," denials and "corrections" from the defenders of PP, we probably would do well to at least start by admitting reality.
 
Most objections to PP are over their abortion services without understanding that they prevent more abortions than provide.


still waiting for you to prove that claim.

Since they provide cheap to free birth control, they help prevent millions of unwanted pregnancies that would likely become abortions. If you do not understand that, then there is no hope for you.

Isn't BIRTH CONTROL demanded and mandatory with ObumaCare? No longer need the PARTS FOR PROFIT, Planned Parenthood, that soaks up 1/2 BILLION a year from taxpayers!

Yes it was :)

Please tell us where the closest Obamacare Clinic is located that these women can now go to instead of going to a Planned Parenthood Clinic. Maybe I missed something, but I don't recall Obamacare setting up clinics for women or men or children or anyone for that matter, but maybe I was misinformed. I just thought that Obamacare was a means to pay for healthcare costs that are provided by healthcare providers, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Obamacare is like theNHS IN the UK. Please tell me more about this Obamacare, because I must have gotten it all wrong.
So what you are saying is obama care sucks? You are finally getting it.
 
This reminds me of the PP hoax, and the Right-Wing Media:


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Kinda like in the 90's when liberals said a blow job wasn't sex?
A blowjob is sex? How about licking a tit? Is that sex, too?
It's not sex? I wonder how many liberals will let their wife give me a blow job?
I won't let my wife give you money. Is money sex?

I won't let my wife give you her car. Is that sex?

You're another fucking idiot.
So the answer is no, why? Because a blow job is sex. Thanks for proving my point.
 
Yes, that's why you you are a Republican, you are a loser
^^^ More proof that "Libertarians" are idiots.

You crack me up. So when you keep calling a libertarian a Republican, so I start calling you, a liberal, a Republican, you're like duh, dar, you don't get it. LOL. You are not a bright girl.

So what are you Republicans up to today? Skate boarding? I don't get the game you kids love to play of No, You're the Republican. It seems repetitious to me. But whatever, I guess intellectual eight year olds like repetition just like physical eight year olds.

Now you Republicans go off and play now
 
My ideas were formed long before ThinkProgress existed.

Liar. Your ideas are fed to you, and you make others up as you post here.

Seems you accuse me of things you cannot know, as if you are some type of authority. You're not, you're a form of poster in the genre of politicalchic, an arrogant, close minded know-it-all whose sole substance was categorized by Eric Berne in Games People Play.

Your favorite games: NIGYYSOB & AIA.

Call back when and if you ever achieve an adult ego state of mind.
 
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You can't take abortion funding away from Planned Parenthood because Planned Parenthood doesn't get abortion funding from the government.

I'm sorry, the callers you have addressed are not able to understand a rational post. Reason is not part of the lexicon used in KAZMania, please rephrase your words into hysterical tirade form so as to not confuse them.
 

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